Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-24 Thread Ty Young
Looks like I did not. Everything seems to work again once nb-javac is uninstalled. Many thanks Jan! On 7/25/21 12:06 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote: Do you have an up-to-date build of NetBeans? This has been fixed by this commit some time ago: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/43338016d661b743

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-24 Thread Jan Lahoda
Do you have an up-to-date build of NetBeans? This has been fixed by this commit some time ago: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/43338016d661b74317892298d88b0a32663adb05 Jan On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 6:40 AM Ty Young wrote: > Thanks for verifying. > > > Netbeans is even more borked withou

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-24 Thread Ty Young
Thanks for verifying. Netbeans is even more borked without nb-javac for me. On load, all the projects that were open are closed except for the parent pom objects. Attempting to right click on a file under "Projects" on the left side does nothing. Files under "Projects" are still marked with e

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-24 Thread Jan Lahoda
Hi Ty, Sorry, I missed this e-mail. I just tried a build from the current NetBeans master and Panama's foreign-memaccess+abi branch, using a simple Maven project. I can see the problem, but only with nb-javac installed. Given nb-javac is based on the last released JDK (i.e. JDK 16) and Panama is J

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-24 Thread Ty Young
Were* *sigh* On 7/24/21 9:08 PM, Ty Young wrote: Where you able to reproduce it by any chance? On 7/13/21 10:18 AM, Ty Young wrote: You may need to build from this branch, which I use: https://github.com/openjdk/panama-foreign/tree/foreign-memaccess+abi The default branch "foreign-jextra

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-24 Thread Ty Young
Where you able to reproduce it by any chance? On 7/13/21 10:18 AM, Ty Young wrote: You may need to build from this branch, which I use: https://github.com/openjdk/panama-foreign/tree/foreign-memaccess+abi The default branch "foreign-jextract" is based on foreign-memaccess+abi and is update

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-13 Thread Ty Young
You may need to build from this branch, which I use: https://github.com/openjdk/panama-foreign/tree/foreign-memaccess+abi The default branch "foreign-jextract" is based on foreign-memaccess+abi and is updated less often. This build is then used as the system JDK(AKA JAVA_HOME). The project

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Jan Lahoda
Hi Ty, Do you have more information on how to reproduce (i.e. how to setup the IDE and the projects to see the problem). I tried to run a (very) recent build on the Panama branch, and create a simple project, and I didn't see the FatalError, so there is something other I need to do. Thanks, J

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Ernie Rael
ut in a lot of work and their efforts seem to be for naught. I'm not saying that there aren't people who do yeoman's work. But a realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the public forums. -ernie Forwarded Message Subject: Re

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Will Hartung
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 2:18 PM Ty Young wrote: > Maybe a bit too negative, even for me. Netbeans has seen various > improvements over the years although it does feel slow and small. I > suppose that's just because of it being purely Open Source and not > having a paid for version with which full

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Michael Bien
On 12.07.21 11:22, Neil C Smith wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 03:54, Michael Bien wrote: So lets say 12.5 is out and fully supports 17, Hopefully 12.5 will support JDK 17 well, but fully supported should be expected in 12.6 - ie. first release tried and tested after JDK 17 released. thanks

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Jeremy Cavanagh
er available for older stuff. Some people put in a lot of work and their efforts seem to be for naught. I'm not saying that there aren't people who do yeoman's work. But a realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the public forums. -ernie -

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
That's right, was going to point this out as well -- NetBeans officially supports a JDK release at the time of its actual release, which is September in this case (see foojay.io for the Java Release Roadmap), which is 12.6, not 12.5. Gj On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:24 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > On

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-12 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 03:54, Michael Bien wrote: > So lets say 12.5 is > out and fully supports 17, Hopefully 12.5 will support JDK 17 well, but fully supported should be expected in 12.6 - ie. first release tried and tested after JDK 17 released. > Alone due to the javac dependency is unreali

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Michael Bien
and their efforts seem to be for naught. I'm not saying that there aren't people who do yeoman's work. But a realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the public forums. -ernie -------- Forwarded Message ---- Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
for older stuff. Some people put in a lot of work and their > > efforts seem to be for naught. > > > > I'm not saying that there aren't people who do yeoman's work. But a > > realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the >

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Ty Young
rk. But a realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the public forums. -ernie ---- Forwarded Message ---- Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:14:10 +0200 From: Jeremy Cavanagh To: Ty Young Hi Ty Young, Ther

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
e project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the > public forums. > > -ernie > > > > > > > > > Forwarded Message > > Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach > > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:14:10 +0200 > > From: Jeremy Cavanagh

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Ernie Rael
o yeoman's work. But a realistic view of the project feels lacking, or maybe that's just the public forums. -ernie Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:14:10 +0200 From: Jeremy Cavanagh To: Ty Young Hi T

Re: Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Ty Young
That's fair. Apologies. On 7/11/21 1:15 PM, Jeremy Cavanagh wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:14:10 +0200 From: Jeremy Cavanagh To: Ty Young Hi Ty Young, There's no need to be rude.

Fwd: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Jeremy Cavanagh
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:14:10 +0200 From: Jeremy Cavanagh To: Ty Young Hi Ty Young, There's no need to be rude. The reason people are asked to join the group is to get involved and help pr

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The deprecation of the SecurityManager is definitely one of the items requiring parts of NetBeans to be reworked. Whenever the JDK drops features, there’s likely to be an impact on its tooling, such as NetBeans. Gj On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 19:11, Ty Young wrote: > I seem to recall a thread on the

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Ty Young
I seem to recall a thread on the official OpenJDK mailing lists claiming that there is no difference between LTS and non-LTS for the purposes of the JDK's development and that people shouldn't hesitate(or not) to make a change because a particular release is LTS. Anyway, sort of getting off-t

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Indeed, JDK 17 support is being worked on. And sometimes NetBeans may work with a particular JDK before that JDK is released, without anything needing to be changed in NetBeans at all. But not always, typically not with LTS releases, such as JDK 17, which come with a lot of changes, impacting NetB

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-11 Thread Ty Young
I'm aware the sky is blue and water is wet, thanks. You had said that JDK 17 was being worked on. Clearly that was a lie. What's the point of forcing people to join a dev list just so you tell them this? Netbeans has never technically supported in-dev builds but they've always generally worke

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Indeed, NetBeans does not support JDK 18 (also not JDK 17) at this stage. Gj On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 04:12, Ty Young wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I use JDK 18 builds of Project Panama[1] that Netbeans does not work > properly with. All classes with JDK 18 have errors with the package > statement

NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-10 Thread Ty Young
> Hi, I use JDK 18 builds of Project Panama[1] that Netbeans does not work properly with. All classes with JDK 18 have errors with the package statement claiming that: Cannot access java.lang     Fatal Error: Unable to find package java.lang in classpath or bootclasspath. This happen

Re: NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
12.5 is targeted for JDK 17. 12.4 has not / cannot be applicable to JDK 17, to the extent that that combination can work, that is purely a coincidence. Can you consider not trying the 12.4/JDK 17 combination at all anymore (that only creates confusion) and focus only on 12.5 instead? Gj On Sat

NB and JDK 17 - OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-07-10 Thread Kenneth Fogel
I am running some of my sample code from my courses with NB 12.4 and JDK 17 ea 26. Initially I could not get this to work as I mentioned in a previous email. In response Ludovic wrote that he filed: [NETBEANS-5775] [1] for that NoSuchMethodError and Jan Lahoda is working on a PR to fix it [2].