Hi Ean:
Interesting statistics. Thanks for the research. BTW, can you get stats
on specific daily or weekly OFBiz download volumes? If so, how could I
get them?
Your points about Magento are well founded and if I had access to the
marketing muscle that ASF had, I'd start working that angle st
Ean Schuessler wrote:
I've been to a *lot* of developer oriented conferences over the years
and I can tell you with some confidence that they are not a good place
for finding new customers or bringing around novice users. Even cheap
conferences are well out of the price range of most casual ado
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the
immense resources available to the Foundation to do that.
I disagree. ApacheCon will never be the primary way people discover and
get excited about OFBiz. The
Hahahaha
Oh, I almost forgot this is a dev list.
在 2010-04-02五的 14:53 -0400，Ruth Hoffman写道：
> Hi Scott:
> Thanks that has been my understanding.
>
> However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a
> for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under
From: "Adam Heath"
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
It's better than TV :p
Like that is difficult.
Some humor never hurt
Jacques
True!
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
It's better than TV :p
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman"
David:
I think this thread is just about dead.
Regardless of what others think, I found ambiguity in your original
statement concerning the profit motive of the ApacheCon organization.
I now understand what yo
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> It's better than TV :p
Like that is difficult.
It's better than TV :p
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman"
David:
I think this thread is just about dead.
Regardless of what others think, I found ambiguity in your original statement concerning the profit motive of the ApacheCon
organization. I now understand what you said. No more ambiguities. Tha
David:
I think this thread is just about dead.
Regardless of what others think, I found ambiguity in your original
statement concerning the profit motive of the ApacheCon organization. I
now understand what you said. No more ambiguities. Thanks for that
clarification.
Regards,
Ruth
David E Jo
You're right to be suspicious Ruth. The traffic volume on the private list is
at least twice the volume on the dev list. Also, you should have seen the
thread about you we had a couple of weeks ago!
Seriously though... what are you talking about? There seems to be some sort of
implied issue he
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing
list a friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to
all the secrets of those on the PMC.
Past or present.
Regards,
Ruth
Hans B
Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing list
a friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to all the
secrets of those on the PMC.
Regards,
Ruth
Hans Bakker wrote:
perhaps next time read mo
perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi David:
> This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not
> meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the
> dynamics of th
Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not
meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the
dynamics of the conference and the ASF.
Regards,
Ruth
David E Jones wrote:
Ruth,
Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit e
Ruth,
Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of
the proceeds going to the foundation".
You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for
profit organization".
I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I did
Hello David:
I simply would like clarification on your statement: "ApacheCon is a
for profit effort." No need to get confrontational.
Regards,
Ruth
David E Jones wrote:
Ruth,
I challenge you to quote where I said that.
-David
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Hi Scot
Ruth,
I challenge you to quote where I said that.
-David
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Scott:
> Thanks that has been my understanding.
>
> However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for
> profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm
Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.
However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a
for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under
the correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this
conference. There is a HUGE differen
Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the
sense that their takings exceed expenses. This "profit" goes back into the
foundation account to be used for other expenses involved in running the
foundation.
Regards
Scott
HotWax Media
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Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with
a "for profit" tax status?
Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of
the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by
ASF and that it is a non-profit organiz
It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the
founda
Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the
immense resources available to the Foundation to do that.
IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting
smaller by the hour) OFBiz community. Apache
Hi David:
Sorry you had such bad experiences.
I guess what you are saying here is that I need to forge ahead with my
own proposals to the organizers and not expect any backing from you.
That is ok with me. I know how much time and effort you spent in the
past coordinating these things and I fo
Ean Schuessler wrote:
Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of
flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the
accommodations should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun.
There are lots of options like that in all kinds of places. We can think
of
I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right.
I know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is
helping fly in developers from countries where the currency exchange
rates make attendance impractically high. We may simply not be able to
do that or we
I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I
should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in organizing
anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not committing to
anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to recruit sp
Adam Heath wrote:
I'd talk about git svn workflows with ofbiz.
I could do something on one of these:
- the Open Source for America website
- a scheme for dynamically allocating warehouse bins and releasing
them based on order item flow
- QuickBooks integration via SOAP/QBXML
- F
Let's build an app to manage this on top of OFBiz. We can build all the
expenses into a project and have the price of the ticket dynamically
calculated off the gross cost plus some safety margin.
I also have a Condorcet voting rig that I built on top of the survey
system that would allow us to
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi David:
>
> I would be very interested in hosting sessions similar to last
> November's ApacheCon in Oakland. I'm prepared to commit to at least (3)
> 50 minute sessions. If someone wants to organize something out side of
> ApacheCon, then, depending on the venue, I may be
Hi Erik:
Are you talking about ApacheCon as a "for profit" endeavor?
Regards,
Ruth
Erik Schuessler wrote:
I would agree, it is interesting to have a "for profit" event on free
or open software, it is kinda self defeating. I understand if they
were just covering costs, but that seems to be more
Hi David:
I would be very interested in hosting sessions similar to last
November's ApacheCon in Oakland. I'm prepared to commit to at least (3)
50 minute sessions. If someone wants to organize something out side of
ApacheCon, then, depending on the venue, I may be able to commit to
participa
I would agree, it is interesting to have a "for profit" event on free or
open software, it is kinda self defeating. I understand if they were
just covering costs, but that seems to be more focused on being a money
maker.
E
On 4/2/2010 11:30 AM, David E Jones wrote:
In the last thread about t
In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more interested in
doing a separate conference that would be less expensive to attend.
Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any sort of
conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else interested in
Hi all,
so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
(https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community),
the conference call is over at the end of the month.
so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?
Cheers,
--
Erwan de FERRIERES
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