Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-22 Thread Michael Brohl
HI Piere, inline... Am 21.01.20 um 15:56 schrieb Pierre Smits: Hi all, The mission of the project is, in line with the ASF, to provide software for the greater good and offering (potential) adopters a choice. In the projects case this is done through providing the OFBiz works (each and all

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-21 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Pierre, I second that, I would not write it better! Jacques Le 21/01/2020 à 15:56, Pierre Smits a écrit : Hi all, The mission of the project is, in line with the ASF, to provide software for the greater good and offering (potential) adopters a choice. In the projects case this is done

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-21 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi all, The mission of the project is, in line with the ASF, to provide software for the greater good and offering (potential) adopters a choice. In the projects case this is done through providing the OFBiz works (each and all products, as well as the supporting tooling for enabling contributors

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-21 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 21/01/2020 à 00:36, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit : Hello, Taher Alkhateeb writes: While working on all the above, I never faced major obstacles. But the reason that I did not is I always made a complete, well written argument about what I'm trying to implement. I always ask for a pair of eyes

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-20 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
Hello, Taher Alkhateeb writes: > While working on all the above, I never faced major obstacles. But the > reason that I did not is I always made a complete, well written > argument about what I'm trying to implement. I always ask for a pair > of eyes to look at my code and give me feedback, and

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-20 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Great Message Taher! Jacques Le 20/01/2020 à 11:50, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hello Mathieu and all, Thank you for this interesting and engaging thread. Before I make my input, I would like to note that Apache OFBiz and its community from my experience is welcoming of change and improvements.

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-20 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Hello Mathieu and all, Thank you for this interesting and engaging thread. Before I make my input, I would like to note that Apache OFBiz and its community from my experience is welcoming of change and improvements. In my earlier days in the project we went through massive changes to the system

Re: Fwd: Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-11 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Mathieu, It's quite clear to me now Jacques Le 11/01/2020 à 21:52, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit : Hello Jacques, Jacques Le Roux writes: Le 05/01/2020 à 18:32, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit : Michael Brohl writes: This project is not only about tech, it has a user base with serious business

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-11 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
Hello Paul, Jacopo and Olivier, Paul Foxworthy writes: > Being clearer about it would be a good thing. There is still the > potential that a change that seems simple and straightforward to one > contributor is disruptive to others. And if it truly is disruptive, we > should collaborate on what

Re: Fwd: Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-11 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
Hello Jacques, Jacques Le Roux writes: > Le 05/01/2020 à 18:32, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit : >> >> Michael Brohl writes: >> >>> This project is not only about tech, it has a user base with serious >>> business running on base of OFBiz. This has always to be considered as >>> serious as good

Clarification about “removing component-load.xml feature” (was: What is OFBiz public API?)

2020-01-11 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
Hello, Here are two clarifications about removing the “component-load.xml” feature. Michael Brohl writes: > Am 05.01.20 um 18:32 schrieb Mathieu Lirzin: > >> effectively optional (like the marketing example you brought) it should >> eventually be moved in the official plugins if we actually

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-08 Thread Olivier Heintz
Hi, everybody, It is not easy to add something in the discussion among the different arguments! (and on the different topics) I will, however, try to give some summary of my position on the various subjects discussed. 1) As Jacques recall "Community over code" so : 1.1 : It is important to

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-08 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Michael, I purposely created a new thread because then there were no answers and I wanted to create a new thread not inserted in the initial thread. But because I got issue with my temporary IP address (due to my Internet provider) it was sent later. OK, copying there... Jacques Le

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-08 Thread Jacques Le Roux
ns" directories with the exception of the “config” directories is considered part of OFBiz public API or not? What do people think? For the record, Without the ability to safely refactor a large subset of the codebase that have the status of “implementation details”, I will simply stop c

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-08 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
There will always be a tension between guaranteeing backward compatibility for the existing user base and the efforts to maintain our codebase, enhance/refactor/innovate it. Considering the peculiar nature of OFBiz, I don't think that trying to define the areas that are part of the "public API"

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-07 Thread Michael Brohl
Hi Jacques, you've created another mail thread with exactly the same title. The first thread already has answers which would get lost if your new thread would be answered. I propose that you simply answer the first thread directly. Thanks, Michael Am 08.01.20 um 05:38 schrieb Jacques Le

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-07 Thread Paul Foxworthy
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:29, Samuel Trégouët wrote: > what is OFBiz public API? > > In my opinion we need an answer for this question otherwise we need to > discuss every single changement! which seems to be really cumbersome! > And even if we discuss every single changemen

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 07/01/2020 à 00:56, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit : Hello, Jacques Le Roux writes: Le 06/01/2020 à 10:29, Samuel Trégouët a écrit : what is OFBiz public API? In my opinion we need an answer for this question otherwise we need to discuss every single changement! which seems to be really

What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi All, Following Mathieu's question about "OFBiz public API" and the points he already mentioned I decided to create a new thread. I don't know what will happen with the other tread (mostly about removing/replacing component-load.xml). That's not the subject here. Mathieu wrote: <> I

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-07 Thread Michael Brohl
? In software library/framework it is quite easy to answer: a big changement is a breaking in public api. It's not about being a big change, it's about breaking existing mechanisms/configurations on the user side. So here is the question from Mathieu: what is OFBiz public API? In my opinion we

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-06 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
Hello, Jacques Le Roux writes: > Le 06/01/2020 à 10:29, Samuel Trégouët a écrit : >> >> what is OFBiz public API? >> >> In my opinion we need an answer for this question otherwise we need to >> discuss every single changement! which seems to be really cumb

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux
is the question from Mathieu: what is OFBiz public API? In my opinion we need an answer for this question otherwise we need to discuss every single changement! which seems to be really cumbersome! And even if we discuss every single changement how to decide it is good for our community: *one

Fwd: Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux
(re)Forwarded at Michael's request Message transféré Sujet : Re: What is OFBiz public API? Date : Sun, 5 Jan 2020 20:33:03 +0100 De :Jacques Le Roux Organisation : Les Arts Informatiques Pour : dev@ofbiz.apache.org Hi Mathieu, Inline too... Le 05/01/2020 à

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-06 Thread Samuel Trégouët
software library/framework it is quite easy to answer: a big changement is a breaking in public api. So here is the question from Mathieu: what is OFBiz public API? In my opinion we need an answer for this question otherwise we need to discuss every single changement! which seems to be really

Re: What is OFBiz public API?

2020-01-05 Thread Michael Brohl
wing if the internal organisation of the files inside the "framework/applications" directories with the exception of the “config” directories is considered part of OFBiz public API or not? What do people think? See my comments above. We cannot reduce the discussion to a public API because of

What is OFBiz public API? (was: Removing “base/config/component-load.xml”)

2020-01-05 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
files inside the "framework/applications" directories with the exception of the “config” directories is considered part of OFBiz public API or not? What do people think? For the record, Without the ability to safely refactor a large subset of the codebase that have the status of “implemen