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Parent: OFBIZ-6644
> Proposal for a new help sys
OFBiz structure for help docs but after a while I
> needed/wanted something more expressive.
> Here is what I wound up using for development:
> Java Help System http://java.net/projects/javahelp/content
> DocBook 5: The Definitive Guide
> http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/
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ples and figures.
If people are using the demo data as test data, we would have be careful with
branching and tagging to support changes in the code that affects the entity
model but at least the load of maintaining demo/test data would be more widely
shared.
> Proposal for a new help
ntribute. We
>>> could handle that better using svn and AsciiDoc ourselves (committers).
>>> People really wanting to contribute would give us their contributions,
>>> through Jira for instance.
>>>
>>> OK, it's just an idea for now, but I real
; scroll-docbook (would need to ask infra to install it for us) we could
>> begin in DocBook format, before moving all in AsciiDoc. Then we could use
>> Buildbot to generate the documentation automatically using Pandoc. Where to
>> post it is secondary, at the ASF of course! Using th
ving the large videos there.
Of course this is not for tomorrow, but I believe it's the way to go if we want
a really reliable, as complete as possible documentation. Without it OFBiz will
never get the attention it deserves... :(
Proposal for a new help system
long it's available online, like we have
the demos
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
into the equation, that the users are
not waiting to get loads of development documentation etc. They prefer to have
that in the hands of the system integrators.
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
>
t is secondary, at the
ASF of course! Using the demo VM seems the right place, we have already HTTPS
serving the large videos there.
Of course this is not for tomorrow, but I believe it's the way to go if we want
a really reliable, as complete as possible documentation. Without it OFBiz will
liable, as complete as possible documentation. Without it OFBiz will
never get the attention it deserves... :(
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-
zing!
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
zing!
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
l for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
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> Proposal for a new help sys
isual documentation that is
uptodate.
- MIT license should be OK.
Will need to think about how to store content fragments to encourage reuse and
increase consistency of documentation.
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> Key: OFBIZ-49
al for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
>Affects V
this week.
Based on this, the there are two things that I'd like to do - the first is that
I'm going to move all the documentation that Tom has done into the current help
system so that it will work with what we already have (essentially so that we
dont lose it!). As well as HR, t
roposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
of the webhelp addon. I'll review it and then report back
to the community as part of the documentation workefforts..
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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the branch? Was it useful?
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
>
, looking forward!
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL
tlet-widget.
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMP
bout this effort, I decided to keep the
branch up to date by merging trunk HEAD at revision: 1562048
This is not only in memory of Tom, I believe it's an interesting feature, the
current embedded help is crappy...
> Proposal for a new
unux EOL (more versatile)
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
&g
using the ant target above it's not abug deal
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: O
help, I still wonder about that, but anyway
using the ant target above it's not abug deal
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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root use *ant webhelp*, to remove it *ant
clean-webhelp*, this is documented anyway (ant -p)
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jir
the work we did together so far in the
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/webhelp-2012-12-07 branch.
I know Olivier was also working with Tom on portlet aspects. So the better way
to share is now by using this branch.
> Proposal for a new help
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL
help instead of old facility (actually catalog) and
order helps, I have commented them out in the Birt ofbiz-component.xml as you
did intially. We will revert that later when they will be transformed to
webhelp.
> Proposal for a new help
Tom
> Proposal for a new help system
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMP
ant target in order to globally build all
existing webhelp in a shoot.
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
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file
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order.
Everything else looks ok as long a all the binary files are put in the right
place.
Thanks,
Tom
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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sing, yes normal: binary files, sounds good.
Now we need to clarify with the team, to decide if we want to commit as is, or
then, what we want to do and how...
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help -
Acutal BIRT Help
I will have to complete testing tomorrow. Just wanted to let you know what was
happening. Should have be able to resolve everything in the morning.
Tom
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you don't get it working: it does not contains the binary files
(images, etc.)
Please check that I have not forgotten anything, thanks!
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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PDF and 3. Epub are
clearly defined.
These notes on presentation are only suggestive of what could be done to
improve OFBiz help
presentation."
Tom
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
&g
early defined.
> These notes on presentation are only suggestive of what could be done to
> improve OFBiz help
> presentation."
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> From: Anil K Patel (JIRA)
> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Sen
would not be fair. On the other hand, it would be certainly
better to have it the way the community envisions it before committing, but
that requires more than comments or black-hat answers!
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Current implementation and proposed help system have too many touch points
>with framework and application
Could you elaborate, give details and examples of the issues you see?
>The proposed solution can be much more easily changed such that, Help
>documents are rendered by a Ofbiz Help weba
will just put their license in the LICENSE
file at root of OFBiz project.
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
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route all the End User help content will
live in OfbizHelp component and not in Content application.
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u know if I see any issues. The last patch only included
the catalog_en webapp and it did not render correctly.
Cheers,
Tom
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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ate\docbook\webhelp\template\content\search\default.props...
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> Project: OFBiz
elp in
applications\content\template\docbook\webhelp\LICENSE). Then if we miss that,
it begins to be ridiculous for files like
applications\content\template\docbook\webhelp\template\content\search\default.props...
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rted/content/overview.html
http://docs.openstack.org/
http://docs.rackspace.com/api/
I should not have brought it up here, it's not a requirement in the use cases
(helppdf.zip that were attached).
Tom
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path for what you call "Docbook content files"? I
guess it's the HTML generated file? Why PDF?
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ers,
Tom
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> Project: OFBiz
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good.
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components:
t to give you update Docbook content files
that will include ASF2 in the content and additional book info section to track
revisions and versions.
Tomorrow...
Tom
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customization to include ASL2 in compiled
HTML files. Updates to ASL can be made in this file.
Help files will have to be re-compiled to include ASL2.
Tom
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a satisfactory solution. I went with brute
force duplication because it worked and I wanted to move on. I'll try to
improve the build file in Phase II (documentation for help system and remaining
legacy apps)
applications/content/template/docbook/webhelp/docs/... is from the webhelp
distrib
ause it worked and I wanted to move on. I'll try to
improve the build file in Phase II (documentation for help system and remaining
legacy apps)
applications/content/template/docbook/webhelp/docs/... is from the webhelp
distribution and should be unchanged.
Re: ASL2 in generated files:
In ht
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uplication because it worked and I wanted to move on. I'll try to
improve the build file in Phase II (documentation for help system and remaining
legacy apps)
applications/content/template/docbook/webhelp/docs/... is from the webhelp
distribution and should be unchanged.
Re: ASL2 in gene
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL COMPONEN
inal commit. There seem to be doubters and I do
not want to spend more time on this if the developers think the current system
is OK or they have other ideas on how help should be delivered to users.
Thanks,
Tom
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
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quirement.
Thanks for your comment,
Tom
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> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
all
the content. This proposed help is using it as folder to store all help content.
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&g
committed
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> Co
x27;s see what others think about it... Without
answers I will commit as is...
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quire a lot of
retesting.
As noted before the help is at the webapp level so *each webapp will have its
own help.*
Tom
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ate a new one and do the
neeed there
We will now wait Adrian's and hopefully other committers comments before I
commit your work, thanks!
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er is decided for a content container as per 3 above.
Tom
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> Project: OFBiz
&
the
webhelp.manufacturing_de target, is that enough? Should we close OFBIZ-5051 if
we commit here?
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FBIZ-5051 ? I see the webhelp.manufacturing_de
target, is that enough? Should we close OFBIZ-5051 if we commit here?
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Birt/PDF issue, I reproduced but did not find
anything obvious (like a path to change), just this, not sure it's related
UtilNumber.java:218:WARN ] Cannot format rule based amount for locale us
because rule set for that locale does not exist
> Proposal for a new
///D:/workspace/ofbiz/applications/content/webapp/ofbizhelp/catalog_en/content/index.html
works well (though its content is very poor, but that's another issue, 1st
good effort ;) )
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anres_en
humanres_en_images
manufacturing_de
manufacturing_de_images
manufacturing_en
manufacturing_en_images
manufacturing_nl
manufacturing_nl_images
projectmgr_en
projectmgr_en_images
{quote}
Of course this should grow with more help in the future.
from specialpurpose if it's no longer the case...
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
>
at is the next step? Remove the BIRT reports completely or
replace them with new screenfop versions?
Tom
PS I am on Long Island with Sandy and may loose power and not be able to reply.
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>
code we can re-enable the webapp example in
birt component, right?
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ange introduced for OFBIZ-5053 is causing this issue, or?
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
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Good luck with your project,
Tom
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> Key: OFBIZ-4941
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4941
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Ty
uild strategy with the architecture.
Each component will have it's own help system for each webapp in the component.
It is built independently or other component/webapps. The current help is at
the component level which is problematic when a component has multiple webapps.
The build strategy
Each component should have its own help system. The kind of dependency proposed
here is a terrible idea.
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ock their presentation. I will add a comment on 5051.
I'll try to answer any other questions you have ASAP
Thanks,
Tom
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> URL: https://issues.apac
continue on this. For OFBIZ-5051 you simply used the
DE.zip and did not apply the patch, right? Because I saw some unwanted removed
lines in it...
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manufacturing_de based on text in OFBIZ-5051.
app-bar-display="false" to suppress HR help as a component.
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Attachment: WebhelpHRAppDocbook.zip
> Proposal for a new help sys
on't forget the point 2 ;)
Accouting, humanres or any available help are no longer a problem with
Tomahawk, it was just the fieldlookup.js.
Have a nice weekend too.
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ccounting if it is still an issue.
Till then, get some rest and have a nice weekend!
Tom
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# a fix for other/s template than Tomahawk for the text button/link
# A way to have help at the webapp and not component level (related to point 1
here)
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1
here)
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> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: ALL
&& parameters.componentName!="manufacturing">
{code}
I know you are working on a solution to have this as the webapp level and not
component level. But in all cases we must have it centrealized and more
visible. Like a properties of why not in DB, or what no
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