Re: [racket-dev] missing negation in guide for places?

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, you are correct. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 PM, John Clements cleme...@brinckerhoff.org wrote: It sure looks to me like this sentence from the docs is missing a really important not: The consequence of this second feature is that place should appear immediately in a module or in a

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] Question about round

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
This is my opinion, too. Robby On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: I think this is a good change for the next language, but not for `#lang racket'. As confusing as the current `integer?' may be, I think its definition is deeply wired into our code,

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] Question about round

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
tells us that Racket isn't the language that can fix these mistakes. On Sep 30, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Robby Findler wrote: This is my opinion, too. Robby On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: I think this is a good change for the next language

Re: [racket-dev] ACM publishing and ArXiv

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
Did Stephen find it because of the ACM somehow? Robby On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: ACM conference also classify your paper so that people who look for related work and may not have quite the right keywords find it anyway. ;; ---

Re: [racket-dev] ACM publishing and ArXiv

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
I think that means no actually. The ACM had nothign to do with what papers that one choose to cite, nor did they have anything to do with google scholar. (The ACM has something to do with which links appear between papers in the digital library, for example.) Robby On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:37

Re: [racket-dev] ACM publishing and ArXiv

2011-09-30 Thread Robby Findler
. Any body that classifies things would work. And yes, since 2001 good search has replaced most of classification. But not all. On Sep 30, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Robby Findler wrote: I think that means no actually. The ACM had nothign to do with what papers that one choose to cite, nor did

Re: [racket-dev] Adding the new plot library [was: Re: Plot?]

2011-09-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Yesterday, Neil Toronto wrote: 1. Obviously, Module 2's path should be 'plot'. Right? And its documentation needs a note that it's deprecated. (I'll do that.) I don't know if it's that important, maybe poll the users list

[racket-dev] google group?

2011-09-29 Thread Robby Findler
Is it possible to change the name of this thing? http://groups.google.com/group/plt-scheme/ Robby _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Adding the new plot library [was: Re: Plot?]

2011-09-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Yesterday, Matthias Felleisen wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Neil Toronto wrote: 3. Should Module 1's path be 'racket/plot'? I've also thought of    'new-plot' (which is a cute pun on gnuplot but inconsistent    

Re: [racket-dev] Adding the new plot library [was: Re: Plot?]

2011-09-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: 6 hours ago, Robby Findler wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Yesterday, Neil Toronto wrote: 1. Obviously, Module 2's path should be 'plot'. Right? And its documentation

Re: [racket-dev] Adding the new plot library [was: Re: Plot?]

2011-09-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Just now, Robby Findler wrote: I don't think that what I said implies this. A compatibility layer using Neil's new library is what was offered (or so I thought). I think we just want something that has the same Racket-level

Re: [racket-dev] Adding the new plot library [was: Re: Plot?]

2011-09-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Just now, Robby Findler wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Just now, Robby Findler wrote: I don't think that what I said implies this. A compatibility layer using Neil's new

Re: [racket-dev] autosave of unsaved files, docs

2011-09-28 Thread Robby Findler
I've fixed the broken drracket autosave gui; it was supposed to point out that these files were there when you restart drracket (and added a drdr test so we can make sure that it continues to work (at least to some extent) if something else changes that breaks it). If you have the energy to

Re: [racket-dev] Test results are slightly incomprehensible...

2011-09-28 Thread Robby Findler
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: At Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:02:14 +0100, Paulo J. Matos wrote: Errors were: (Section (got expected (call))) ((date) ((638931660) Error (find-seconds 0 1 2 1 4 1990))) After looking into this, I conclude that the test is

Re: [racket-dev] drracket crash with bad prefs

2011-09-28 Thread Robby Findler
That preference setting means that your window was on the second monitor (at position x=76, y=9). And it looks like what happened is that when you started up drracket a second time, that monitor wasn't there anymore and a bug caused it to crash instead of just moving your window to an existing

Re: [racket-dev] Help Desk nomenclature

2011-09-27 Thread Robby Findler
That makes a lot of sense to me, so I pushed that change. Thanks! Robby On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Ryan Culpepper wrote at 09/27/2011 02:45 AM: On 09/27/2011 12:33 AM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: Did someone decide whether to rename Help Desk to

[racket-dev] bug reports: include prefs file?

2011-09-27 Thread Robby Findler
Should I change DrRacket's bug report window so it includes the user's preferences file? It would have been helpful in more than a few bugs now but I'm not sure if it would bother people to have it put in there. Robby _ For list-related

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23606: master branch updated

2011-09-27 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM, ry...@racket-lang.org wrote: ryanc has updated `master' from 247a51d5bd to c7f86d276c. http://git.racket-lang.org/plt/247a51d5bd..c7f86d276c =[ 5 Commits ]== The commit log says removed useless

Re: [racket-dev] bug reports: include prefs file?

2011-09-27 Thread Robby Findler
policies.  Emphasize the stuff most relevant to subject rather than burying it, and don't force it to be viewed in a tiny font in a 30x5-character window like we don't want people to actually read it.) Robby Findler wrote at 09/27/2011 08:29 PM: Should I change DrRacket's bug report window so

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23606: master branch updated

2011-09-27 Thread Robby Findler
Great, thanks! Robby On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Ryan Culpepper r...@cs.utah.edu wrote: On 09/27/2011 07:54 PM, Robby Findler wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM,ry...@racket-lang.org  wrote: ryanc has updated `master' from 247a51d5bd to c7f86d276c.  http://git.racket-lang.org/plt

Re: [racket-dev] bug reports: include prefs file?

2011-09-27 Thread Robby Findler
business opportunities of the owner of the code, would raise concerns about security that people would then be obligated to examine, and could also constitute the bug submitter violating an NDA or other restrictions on how they handle certain info. Robby Findler wrote at 09/27/2011 10:37 PM

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23587: master branch updated

2011-09-22 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:52 AM, ro...@racket-lang.org wrote: | Add the following keybindings in a (hopefully) transparent REPL-friendly way: HOW? They keybindings automates what you can already do with some

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23587: master branch updated

2011-09-22 Thread Robby Findler
do so, you know you're doing it. Now you're supporting it, blessing it. On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Robby Findler wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:52 AM, ro...@racket-lang.org wrote: | Add the following

Re: [racket-dev] help on Help Desk

2011-09-21 Thread Robby Findler
I guess I'm in charge of the bits that call into help/search. If f1 is near whitespace, it calls send-main-page. If there is a word/symbol nearby it calls perform-search with that word and some context information. It kind of sounds like the context is being synthesized wrong. Perhaps the next

Re: [racket-dev] error with futures and the compiler

2011-09-20 Thread Robby Findler
Are the unsafe operations ever misapplied? Robby On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: The attached program works fine, and if compiled, it works fine with small inputs: [samth@punge] r tst.rkt 40 /dev/null [samth@punge] r tst.rkt 4000 /dev/null

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23561: master branch updated

2011-09-17 Thread Robby Findler
I think you are missing a test case here. Robby On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:39 PM, gmarc...@racket-lang.org wrote: gmarceau has updated `master' from 14014b3d36 to 9b49de16e7.  http://git.racket-lang.org/plt/14014b3d36..9b49de16e7 =[ 1 Commits

Re: [racket-dev] Racket docs and data-driven design

2011-09-16 Thread Robby Findler
Why is else evil? I can see how it might be pragmatic to avoid it in a language without contracts, but I'm having trouble seeing evil. Robby On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: I introduced templates today.  Almost as if on cue, one student asked

[racket-dev] online check syntax: now disabled by default

2011-09-15 Thread Robby Findler
I've disabled the online check syntax by default because I'm worried about stability issues (and deadlock issues, but those just keep online check syntax from working, not so much drracket itself). So I'll probably leave it off for the next release but I encourage you to turn it back on try it out

Re: [racket-dev] current-read-interaction

2011-09-15 Thread Robby Findler
I guess that you're returning something to DrRacket that it is interpreting as success and then (perhaps evaluating and) asking the reader again and again. It is hard to say, tho, without seeing what honu-read-syntax does. Of course, it could also be a bug somewhere. Can you make a little program

Re: [racket-dev] code coverage coloring

2011-09-14 Thread Robby Findler
I don't think we're quite on the same wavelength here. What is it that you want, that you do not get from the current options? Robby On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: This is for a #lang-language. Is there a reason this can't be done

Re: [racket-dev] code coverage coloring

2011-09-14 Thread Robby Findler
What would happen if a program in such a language were run in regular racket? Robby On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: It would be nice if I could turn on coverage highlighting from code in my language's run-time configuration, without the user

Re: [racket-dev] code coverage coloring

2011-09-14 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, not sure how that help, but my messages have probably been too opaque. I just chatted with Eli on the phone about this and I see two things that DrRacket could provide a) DrRacket could defer to the the language-info stuff for the default settings in the language dialog instead of using

Re: [racket-dev] code coverage coloring

2011-09-14 Thread Robby Findler
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: An hour ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: Can't comment on option (b), but option (a) is what I was thinking of. Just to clarify (a) is a kind of a cheap way out: there's a facility to shove random information into

Re: [racket-dev] code coverage coloring

2011-09-14 Thread Robby Findler
The arrows don't form a tree. But have a look at the docs and see. Additional layers welcome. On Wednesday, September 14, 2011, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: A few minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: On Wednesday, September 14, 2011, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: And it would

Re: [racket-dev] Can't click inside DrRacket

2011-09-13 Thread Robby Findler
There was a bug that I introduced (that I've since fixed, maybe yesterday or the day before) that would have those symptoms. Do you have the absolute latest? Robby On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: This is really weird. I just recently updated DrRacket,

Re: [racket-dev] dynamic require and collapsed snips?

2011-09-13 Thread Robby Findler
to call some library to initialize things so I thought I'd wait and see how important that was. Robby On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: The GUI-less error you were getting is a bug in the implementation of the collapsed snip. Specifically

Re: [racket-dev] dynamic require and collapsed snips?

2011-09-11 Thread Robby Findler
The GUI-less error you were getting is a bug in the implementation of the collapsed snip. Specifically it is not wired into the non-GUI reading support stuff in the wxme library. Unfortunately it does not seem easy to support the same strategy that the GUI version uses In the non-GUI context

Re: [racket-dev] code coverage coloring

2011-09-11 Thread Robby Findler
That is doable via a drracket plugin or, if you use a #lang-based language you have to ask your users to turn on the test coverage option in the language dialog. Robby On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: Is there a way for a custom language to get

Re: [racket-dev] CPANTS

2011-09-09 Thread Robby Findler
I would love to see something like that be a part of planet (presumably 2.0). I had lots of similar ideas for 1.0, but never was able to get going significantly on them. FWIW. Robby On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: Do you know about CPANTS?  I just

Re: [racket-dev] See, that's what I'm talking about

2011-09-09 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, thanks! Robby On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Jay Kominek komi...@gmail.com wrote: You're welcome? On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:49 PM, John Clements cleme...@brinckerhoff.orgwrote: Thanks, Jay! Uh... whoever you are? John Begin forwarded message: *From: *Facebook

Re: [racket-dev] See, that's what I'm talking about

2011-09-09 Thread Robby Findler
Now when do we get our check for $179 (or whatever it was). Can I just send my address to the internets? Robby On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.eduwrote: Yes, thanks! Robby On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Jay Kominek komi...@gmail.com wrote: You're

Re: [racket-dev] New runtime charting for DrDr

2011-09-08 Thread Robby Findler
The hidden series thing was the one I was asking for. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Robby On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: n Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Robby Findler ro

Re: [racket-dev] generalized `begin-for-syntax'

2011-09-08 Thread Robby Findler
It seems a bit too clever for me. FWIW. Robby On Thursday, September 8, 2011, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: At Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:48:46 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Does this mean that `define-for-syntax' becomes as deprecated as `require-for-syntax' etc, right? At the moment,

Re: [racket-dev] Suggestions for monitoring unresponsive web server connection?

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Kathi Fisler kfis...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on this -- what's the max number of open file descriptors that Racket allows? We're seeing some lingering ones (trying to trace the source, but wondering if this is the problem). Racket shouldn't have any limit

Re: [racket-dev] New runtime charting for DrDr

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Now, when you click on a point, the tooltip stays

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
Is replace as menukey-r an important one, or is it really the other two? Robby On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: All platforms: - changed New Tab to menukey-t

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
Nevermind. Stupid question. Robby On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Is replace as menukey-r an important one, or is it really the other two? Robby On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, I've added a pref. Robby _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
I keep being confused and afraid when I run my program it gets erased. ;) Robby On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: I will say that my muscles seem to be like Jay's. BUT, I must be much younger. A day of programming and I open only 5 tabs instead of

Re: [racket-dev] New runtime charting for DrDr

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Also, a less important one, but since you're taking feature requests :), would it be possible to have a mode where you can see the separate lines individually, so

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
The keybindings file docs assume you know a lot about the GUI system and the organization of DrRacket, unfortunately. It desperately needs some Guide-style work. Robby On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's a good idea. I found the docs very

Re: [racket-dev] online syntax-coloring for planet packages not working?

2011-09-07 Thread Robby Findler
I've pushed a fix for at least that (planet packages will still fail to install tho). Please let me know if you spot more problems. Thanks, Robby On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:07 PM, John Clements cleme...@brinckerhoff.org wrote: It appears to me that online syntax-coloring doesn't work for files

Re: [racket-dev] planet bug reporting interface

2011-09-06 Thread Robby Findler
FWIW, ticket is a trac term and while I agree that it would be good to avoid another piece of vocab, that's not something I think we'll change before planet 2.0. Robby On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: [This is intentionally

Re: [racket-dev] planet bug reporting interface

2011-09-06 Thread Robby Findler
I'm not sure what happened here, but it could have been that I accidentally deleted them because of all of the spam tickets that we get (ie I messed up and thought they were spam or I typed the wrong numbers). I'm very sorry if that was the case. I do try to be careful (and nearly all of the spam

Re: [racket-dev] planet versioning spec?

2011-09-06 Thread Robby Findler
Did you see section 1.4 of the planet docs? Also there are two bugs (both of which are in 5.1.3 I believe): - one bug prevented planet from re-using downloaded packages; this has been fixed - the second bug prevented the linkage table from working (the bug's result caused just always ignored

Re: [racket-dev] planet versioning spec?

2011-09-06 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: Did you see section 1.4 of the planet docs? Yes, I did.  It referred me to section 2 for the search order.  The rest of it is about referring to explicit version numbers, whereas my message was about what happens

Re: [racket-dev] New runtime charting for DrDr

2011-09-06 Thread Robby Findler
In the old version you could click on a point in the graph to go to that revision. Can you bring that back, please? Robby On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: DrDr now has colorful, up-to-date, interactive charts for runtime on every file.  For example,

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-02 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robby, On 09/01/11 17:55, Robby Findler wrote: Okay, thanks everyone for the comments. Generally speaking, I dread keybinding-based discussions because it is impossible to make

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-02 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robby, On 09/02/11 14:33, Robby Findler wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: But anyway, the test for whether the platform is Gtk seems

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-01 Thread Robby Findler
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: I like the idea of adding shift, but I've changed things so that instead of the w shortcut going away, the close menu item becomes menukey-shift-w (so the shifting behavior is still there and we are complying with the guidelines

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-01 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/01/11 16:29, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:14:47 -0500, Robby Findler wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: I like the idea

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-09-01 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, thanks everyone for the comments. Generally speaking, I dread keybinding-based discussions because it is impossible to make everyone happy (and usually only the unhappy people speak up :). Still, I think you folks are right that changes need to happen. I've looked over various apps and the

Re: [racket-dev] image snips and pretty-print (#lang htdp/bsl and snips)

2011-09-01 Thread Robby Findler
Maybe something like this is what you want (but I always get lost in the multitude of handlers so this might not be quite the right place to put this code). diff --git a/collects/htdp/bsl/runtime.rkt b/collects/htdp/bsl/runtime.rkt index d612aad..2865445 100644 --- a/collects/htdp/bsl/runtime.rkt

[racket-dev] online check syntax deadlock: can you help?

2011-08-31 Thread Robby Findler
I've been seeing for some time now a deadlock in online check syntax. That is, after a while it just gets stuck and fails to complete the online check syntax. Typically what you see is the little blue dot come on but the cpu load drop to zero without any check syntax arrows ever showing up.

Re: [racket-dev] Location of user preferences files

2011-08-30 Thread Robby Findler
The docs say that you can adjust this via the registry: http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/Filesystem.html?q=find-system-path#%28def._%28%28quote._~23~25kernel%29._find-system-path%29%29 but I don't know how that would work. Maybe it's location would already be good enough if the student's

[racket-dev] date bug?

2011-08-28 Thread Robby Findler
Is it a bug that this: (/ (- (find-seconds 0 0 0 5 12 2011) (find-seconds 0 0 0 28 8 2011)) 60 60 24) doesn't return an even integer? (I get 99 1/24th). Robby _ For list-related administrative tasks:

Re: [racket-dev] Warnings in source code

2011-08-26 Thread Robby Findler
There are plenty of warnings when you build under windows. Robby On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Paulo J. Matos pa...@matos-sorge.com wrote: On 26/08/11 17:28, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: Great.  It might be helpful to try building with clang as well, as it gives very helpful warning/error

Re: [racket-dev] Warnings in source code

2011-08-26 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Paulo J. Matos pa...@matos-sorge.com wrote: On 26/08/11 17:55, Robby Findler wrote: There are plenty of warnings when you build under windows. oh... :-/ If the problem is windows then I don't think I will be able to help since I don't have access

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-08-25 Thread Robby Findler
The intention is that close means close window and the menukey-w shortcut moves between the close and close tab menu items depending on how many tabs are open. Are you seeing something different than that? Robby On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [racket-dev] Patch to make the DrRacket Profile pane resizable

2011-08-25 Thread Robby Findler
Thanks! I've applied it in the git repo. Robby On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Luke Vilnis lvil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here's a patch that makes it so you can drag to resize the profile pane in DrRacket. Apologies if this is the wrong way to submit low-priority tweaks like this, I don't

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-08-25 Thread Robby Findler
be the default on the Mac, but it's certainly strange behavior on other platforms. I often find DrRacket disappearing on me and wondering why, then realizing...uh oh, close means something different. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: On Thu

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-08-25 Thread Robby Findler
surprised (and displeased) by DrRacket's behavior. Shriram On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: For you, is this an issue with the underscores in the menu items? That is, if the underscore moved from close to close tab would that help you at all

Re: [racket-dev] drRacket Close/Close tab

2011-08-25 Thread Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: For you, is this an issue with the underscores in the menu items? That is, if the underscore moved from close to close tab would that help you at all? On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: Yes, Robby, that would be

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-20 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: 9 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Three hours ago, Robby Findler wrote: Maybe Eli can say more? I have no idea what the problem is, or how

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-20 Thread Robby Findler
Okay I've narrowed things down to something strange about the context in which racket calls the planet module name resolver. In particular, if you change the planet resolver by inserting this code right as the first thing it does: (parameterize ([current-namespace (make-base-namespace)]) (eval

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-20 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, the code below is what I meant with my message. Sorry I wasn't clear enough and apparently made you waste your time. The standard-module-name-resolver is in plt/src/racket/src/startup.rktl, but it doesn't really seem to do anything before handing control to planet. Robby On Sat, Aug 20,

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-20 Thread Robby Findler
Matthew pointed out that current-module-declare-name might play a role and, sure enough, that was the problem. I've pushed a fix to planet (since the resolver should be setting that back to #f before starting the setup process), but probably the sandbox should also work when that is set to

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-19 Thread Robby Findler
It looks like this is a problem with the sandbox or the use of the sandbox somehow. Here's the stacktrace for the error: - require: unknown module: 'program === context === /Applications/Racket v5.1.3/collects/racket/sandbox.rkt:572:17: ns /Applications/Racket

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-19 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Three hours ago, Robby Findler wrote: I'm not seeing anything when looking at your code that looks suspicious, but I'm not sure of the ins and outs of the sandbox protocols so I'm not sure who to blame here (well

Re: [racket-dev] sporadic failure when building PLaneT docs

2011-08-17 Thread Robby Findler
Is this the released 5.1.3? (so it doesn't have the recent change I made to the planet module name resolver)? Robby On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Danny Yoo d...@cs.wpi.edu wrote: I'm seeing the following error message when I'm compiling Whalesong:

Re: [racket-dev] getting oops, internal error messages when updating PLaneT packages

2011-08-17 Thread Robby Findler
) with non-checked input. So hopefully you won't see that error anymore. Thanks for the report. Robby On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I think that this is the relevant part of the log, showing the error:  Monday, August 15th, 2011 5:38:17pm:   write

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23249: master branch updated

2011-08-14 Thread Robby Findler
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM, matth...@racket-lang.org wrote: collects/lang/htdp-langs-save-file-prefix.rkt ~ --- OLD/collects/lang/htdp-langs-save-file-prefix.rkt +++ NEW/collects/lang/htdp-langs-save-file-prefix.rkt @@ -1,11 +1,16 @@  #lang

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #23249: master branch updated

2011-08-14 Thread Robby Findler
per module is a *good* idea. On Aug 14, 2011, at 10:46 PM, Robby Findler wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM,  matth...@racket-lang.org wrote: collects/lang/htdp-langs-save-file-prefix.rkt ~ --- OLD/collects/lang/htdp-langs-save-file-prefix.rkt

Re: [racket-dev] syntax-property guards? (was: Re: The Stepper strikes again)

2011-08-13 Thread Robby Findler
FWIW, there is precedent for this kind of thing, namely the properties that get added to syntax objects to tell check syntax about bindings that aren't in the fully expanded program (and yeah, I know there is a pending question about this; sorry I haven't had time to look into it and straighten

Re: [racket-dev] spam bug reports

2011-08-13 Thread Robby Findler
This is the PLaneT bug reports, not the drracket bug reports. I'm loathe to restrict that to people that login, but maybe it is time for that. Robby On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Captcha that requires a very tiny amount of Racket/Scheme/Lisp

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-13 Thread Robby Findler
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: About a minute ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: Thanks for this. I really like the rounded-edge Download buttons that most software systems now have.  It seems odd to not have one for DrRacket.  (I brought this up some

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-13 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, please. Robby On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: I'd like to renew the suggestion that Guillaume works out a concrete plan and we take it from there. _  For list-related administrative tasks:  

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
Sounds like it is time for Guillaume to explore a prototype, if he's still interested in that, then. Robby On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: About a minute ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some I don't

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
Yes (for the subset that is in common with html5 (hopefully that's all of it)). Robby On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: 1. Racket's awesome cross-platform drawing library. Robby, is this what you were trying to sell Danny on to support in

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.com wrote: Can I get a racket/gui expert's help on Jay's machine's output? There are two issues: 1. I have it render text with an 8 point font. On Jay's Mac, it's too small to be 8 point. Either there's some font scaling or it's

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
Why would it damage more people? I think it makes sense to put on the first page some kind of an indication that this is what we guess your machine is; if you don't know, try this one first. Perhaps not Guillaume's exact words, but something that would help this person. Robby On Thu, Aug 11,

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
defaults. Jay On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Why would it damage more people? I think it makes sense to put on the first page some kind of an indication that this is what we guess your machine is; if you don't know, try this one first

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] pretty-big-#lang (was: External connection toFinndesign Liitin)

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: [switch to dev] On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: DrRacket's interactions window has to use `eval' in the sense that it reads an expression to evaluate and then passes it on

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] pretty-big-#lang (was: External connection toFinndesign Liitin)

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: How problematic would it be if the DrRacket interactions window didn't make the namespace it uses for evaluation available

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] pretty-big-#lang (was: External connection toFinndesign Liitin)

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Robby Findler ro

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com wrote: In the ambiguous cases, you can get additional information by checking for flash. Because Adobe doesn't support flash player on x64 browsers, if detection is successful then it is definitely a 32 bit browser, if not,

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
think that would be better than relying on adobe not doing software development. Robby On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Guillaume

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
to inform people that we made a best possible guess and that there are alternatives. But this language must be extremely non-scary to BEGINNERS. On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Robby Findler wrote: I think that maybe, given this particular choice, it makes more sense to say, on the web page

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-11 Thread Robby Findler
I'd be happy to comment on drafts too, if that's useful. Robby On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Guillaum, why don't you work out a concrete plan, especially the wording of the messages to the downloader, and submit it to ELi for review. He will

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