Re: Bug nominations

2011-02-11 Thread Zsolt Kúti
Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:46:50 + -n Dan Creswell írta: > Uhm, one more follow-up and I'll shut-up No please, do not stop :-) I like these discussions, see below. > Note this isn't about technical superiority, it's about mindset and > education. Google GFS isn't particularly clever or technica

Re: Bug nominations

2011-02-11 Thread Calum Shaw-Mackay
As I recall, while the code was still at Sun, there were thoughts about making Mahalo XA-compliant. And as more general comment, taking into account both comments on Outrigger, and the TransactionManager, perhaps there should be an effort to look at all the default services supplied with River,

Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread Calum Shaw-Mackay
All - I'm at the beginning of moving all my Jini-related projects away from java.net. Does anyone have any opinions on which particular 'brand' of project hosting is a 'good one'? (in whatever terms you define that) Immediate considerations are sourceforge, and GitHub (although I've not yet u

Re: Bug nominations

2011-02-11 Thread Dan Creswell
XA-compliant - red rag to a bull that is.can't keep my mouth shut XA and two-phase commit tend to go hand in hand and whilst that's certainly the current Jini spec it has some dark corners progress wise we might want to look at. This might entail some changes to the spec or at least some a

Re: Bug nominations

2011-02-11 Thread Dan Creswell
On 11 February 2011 08:00, Zsolt Kúti wrote: > Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:46:50 + -n > Dan Creswell írta: > > > Uhm, one more follow-up and I'll shut-up > No please, do not stop :-) > I like these discussions, see below. > > > Note this isn't about technical superiority, it's about mindset and

Re: Bug nominations

2011-02-11 Thread Calum Shaw-Mackay
On 11 February 2011 08:56, Dan Creswell wrote: > XA-compliant - red rag to a bull that is.can't keep my mouth shut > I'm not saying we SHOULD, but I know that mahalo and TransactionManager changes were being talked about publicly towards the end of Sun's tenure as Jini's custodian. > >

Re: Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread Dan Creswell
I'd say SourceForge or GitHub. SourceForge I think is more rounded at the moment, offers git and mercurial (and svn too I recall). If what you need though is basically source code control, I'd say GitHub is the better option. On 11 February 2011 08:48, Calum Shaw-Mackay wrote: > All - > > I'm at

Re: Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread Patrick Wright
GitHub has great popular momentum and it doesn't appear to be letting up - although each of these hosting sites has had its day in the sun. We switched away from java.net to GH for our code repository and Google Code for documentation, releases, and issue tracking, as we felt the tools on GC were

Re: Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread De Groot, Cees
Sourceforge still is Subversion and CVS, isn't it? I usually use GitHub for my open source stuff. Seems to be fine. Also Gitorious, which has the added benefit of being open source itself so if you like it, you just grab it and install it :) On 11Feb, 2011, at 09:48 , Calum Shaw-Mackay wrote:

Re: Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread Dan Creswell
Nope, SF does Git and Mercurial as well. Blitz was on svn, then went hg and is now git On 11 February 2011 09:29, De Groot, Cees wrote: > Sourceforge still is Subversion and CVS, isn't it? > > I usually use GitHub for my open source stuff. Seems to be fine. Also > Gitorious, which has the ad

Re: Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread Tom Hobbs
I've never had a problem with bitbucket.org, which is Mercurial and has a nice wiki and bug tracker. I don't know if it ticks all your boxes though. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Dan Creswell wrote: > Nope, SF does Git and Mercurial as well. Blitz was on svn, then went hg and > is now git...

progress on websites

2011-02-11 Thread Sim IJskes - QCG
As you might have noticed, still a small hickup on the production website. No CMS updates for now. Gr. Sim

Re: [TALLY] [VOTE] drop JDK 5 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Sim IJskes - QCG wrote: > Assuming you used 'spelunk: to explore unknown territory' you need to > explain this some more. > > What was done wrong? How could we have done this better? Yes you have captured the intent of my metaphor, and no I really didn't mean to c

Re: [TALLY] [VOTE] drop JDK 5 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Sim IJskes - QCG
On 11-02-11 13:34, Benson Margulies wrote: Holding a formal vote as a way of discovering (e.g. spelunking, humorously) whether a consensus exists is fine. My point, such as it was, is that once you have a supply of -1 votes, you're really done. It doesn't matter exactly how much time has passed,

Re: [TALLY] [VOTE] drop JDK 5 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Sim IJskes - QCG wrote: On 11-02-11 13:34, Benson Margulies wrote: Holding a formal vote as a way of discovering (e.g. spelunking, humorously) whether a consensus exists is fine. My point, such as it was, is that once you have a supply of -1 votes, you're really done. It doesn't matter exactly h

Re: Slightly OT : Code hosting for projects

2011-02-11 Thread Dennis Reedy
Hi Calum, I moved Rio to GitHub, and created google group mailing lists for users and developers. HTH Dennis On Feb 11, 2011, at 348AM, Calum Shaw-Mackay wrote: > All - > > I'm at the beginning of moving all my Jini-related projects away from > java.net. > > Does anyone have any opinions

Re: [TALLY] [VOTE] drop JDK 5 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Sim IJskes - QCG
On 11-02-11 15:17, Patricia Shanahan wrote: there is considerable opposition to dropping Java 5 support at this time. The real question is whether we had allowed long enough for anyone who objected to dropping 1.4 to say so. I think we have. I do too. How do we proceed from here? SVN is up agai

Re: [TALLY] [VOTE] drop JDK 5 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Sim IJskes - QCG wrote: On 11-02-11 15:17, Patricia Shanahan wrote: there is considerable opposition to dropping Java 5 support at this time. The real question is whether we had allowed long enough for anyone who objected to dropping 1.4 to say so. I think we have. I do too. How do we proceed

Re: progress on websites

2011-02-11 Thread Sim IJskes - QCG
On 11-02-11 12:38, Sim IJskes - QCG wrote: As you might have noticed, still a small hickup on the production website. No CMS updates for now. All is ok now. Only content fixes and missing links. Gr. Sim -- QCG, Software voor het MKB, 071-5890970, http://www.qcg.nl Quality Consultancy Group b

Re: [TALLY] [VOTE] drop JDK 5 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Peter Firmstone
Patricia Shanahan wrote: Sim IJskes - QCG wrote: On 11-02-11 13:34, Benson Margulies wrote: Holding a formal vote as a way of discovering (e.g. spelunking, humorously) whether a consensus exists is fine. My point, such as it was, is that once you have a supply of -1 votes, you're really done. I

Future Roadmap WAS: Re: [VOTE] [TALLY] drop jdk 1.4 compatibility

2011-02-11 Thread Peter Firmstone
Sim IJskes - QCG wrote: Sim IJskes +1 Jeff Ramsdale +1 (non-binding) Patricia Shanahan +1 jgr...@simulexinc.com +1 (non-binding) Dan Creswell +1 (non-binding) Tom Hobbs +1 Peter Firmstone +1 Dennis Reedy +1 (non-binding) Greg Trasuk +1 Gr. Sim We need to update our future roadmap on the webs