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2006-08-04 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like shale-goodies for the group id and shale.goodies for the package name. +1 Sean Craig On 8/4/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/4/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[

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2006-08-04 Thread Sean Schofield
I like shale-goodies for the group id and shale.goodies for the package name. Sean On 8/4/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/4/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > shale.goodies.petstore ? > > > > I like it

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2006-08-04 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/4/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shale.goodies.petstore ? > > I like it except for one problem. What is the maven group id? If it > starts with shale, people browsing ibiblio might get confused and > wonder where the re

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2006-08-04 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shale.goodies.petstore ? I like it except for one problem. What is the maven group id? If it starts with shale, people browsing ibiblio might get confused and wonder where the rest of the stuff is? The Maven groupId would probably be co

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2006-08-04 Thread Sean Schofield
shale.goodies.petstore ? I like it except for one problem. What is the maven group id? If it starts with shale, people browsing ibiblio might get confused and wonder where the rest of the stuff is? Wendy Sean

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2006-08-04 Thread Greg Reddin
I'm cool with that too. It doesn't have to be a web address :-) Greg On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only problem with com.google is if we move it from being hosted on google.com (a distinct possibility at this point.)

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2006-08-04 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only problem with com.google is if we move it from being hosted on google.com (a distinct possibility at this point.) shale.goodies.petstore ? -- Wendy

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2006-08-04 Thread Sean Schofield
The only problem with com.google is if we move it from being hosted on google.com (a distinct possibility at this point.) Sean On 8/4/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I prefer that too. shale.org doesn't appeal to me for some reason I can't really put my finger on. Greg On

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2006-08-04 Thread Greg Reddin
I think I prefer that too. shale.org doesn't appeal to me for some reason I can't really put my finger on. Greg On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:03 PM, James Mitchell wrote: I prefer com.google.shalegoodies Your thoughts? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Sean Schofiel

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2006-08-04 Thread James Mitchell
I prefer com.google.shalegoodies Your thoughts? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Sean Schofield wrote: > Lets think on the package names a bit. OK. What about just org.shale? So for petstore we have org.shale.petstore as the package name with org.shale as

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2006-08-04 Thread Sean Schofield
> Lets think on the package names a bit. OK. What about just org.shale? So for petstore we have org.shale.petstore as the package name with org.shale as the maven group name. Craig Sean

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2006-08-04 Thread Sean Schofield
Yep. What we would need to know is the "from" address on the commit emails, so we know what address to subscribe. I changed the email from public to moderated so I could discover the sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'd think Google would have figured this stuff out already :-). Yes but its a wo

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2006-08-04 Thread Sean Schofield
I also took the [shale-goodies] prefix off the emails. Users can just the to address for filtering. We can save the [] notation for subcategories - google code is already adding that for instance. Plus then we can have [petstore], etc. to help sort the emails. Sean On 8/4/06, Sean Schofield <

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well the email list is not public atm. That's probably the problem. Yep. What we would need to know is the "from" address on the commit emails, so we know what address to subscribe. We could create a shell gmail account for the svn email

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
Added. Craig On 8/3/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: gmail mwessendorf @ gmail DOT com :) On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well the email list is not public atm. That's probably the problem. > We could create a shell gmail account for the svn emai

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2006-08-03 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
gmail mwessendorf @ gmail DOT com :) On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well the email list is not public atm. That's probably the problem. We could create a shell gmail account for the svn emails and have that same account subscribed to the group. Then set up forwarding

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2006-08-03 Thread Sean Schofield
Well the email list is not public atm. That's probably the problem. We could create a shell gmail account for the svn emails and have that same account subscribed to the group. Then set up forwarding. That should work. Which brings us to the issue of the list permissions. One option is to req

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lets think on the package names a bit. OK. I set up a google group for us. I tried adding the svn commit messages to the group but I'm not sure that's possible. Maybe we just add each "commiter" manually as we go? Hmm ... looks like

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2006-08-03 Thread Sean Schofield
Lets think on the package names a bit. I set up a google group for us. I tried adding the svn commit messages to the group but I'm not sure that's possible. Maybe we just add each "commiter" manually as we go? Sean On 8/3/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/3/06, Sean Schofi

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any reason why we can't use org.apache.shale for the package names still? I can't really think of a better package name off hand. Using org.apache.shale.x would seem to create a false perception that the goodies were actually a formal

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2006-08-03 Thread Sean Schofield
Any reason why we can't use org.apache.shale for the package names still? I can't really think of a better package name off hand. Sean On 8/3/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm ok with shale-goodies as long as we can rel

Re: Should we move shale-petstore somewhere else? Was --> Re: Wikipedia: More Licensing Questions

2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm ok with shale-goodies as long as we can release artifacts as different versions, etc. I'm assuming that's the case. I think we're all curious about the google option so lets go ahead with it. We can always move it in a few months if it

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2006-08-03 Thread Sean Schofield
I'm ok with shale-goodies as long as we can release artifacts as different versions, etc. I'm assuming that's the case. I think we're all curious about the google option so lets go ahead with it. We can always move it in a few months if it doesn't pan out. Right now there;s just shale-petstore

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2006-08-03 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 8/3/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only difference between project owner and project member is access to the admin screens for the project itself. Both have commit rights. I'll set you as a member if you want just that. I didn't know that was an option. Just 'member'

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mine is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but please don't make me the owner -- too much responsibility. Unless 'owner' is the same as committer? The only difference between project owner and project member is access to the admin screens for the project

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2006-08-03 Thread James Mitchell
Mine is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but please don't make me the owner -- too much responsibility. Unless 'owner' is the same as committer? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 On Aug 3, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: On 8/3/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1. I was wanting to

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What about just adding shale-petstore as part of shale-goodies? Was that just a thing of getting wires crossed or did you intend for it to be a separate project? It was definitely "great minds thinking alike at the same time" ... :-) I thin

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2006-08-03 Thread Greg Reddin
What about just adding shale-petstore as part of shale-goodies? Was that just a thing of getting wires crossed or did you intend for it to be a separate project? Greg On Aug 3, 2006, at 2:26 PM, Sean Schofield wrote: And I just set up a shale-petstore ;-) Do you envision this being more

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2006-08-03 Thread Sean Schofield
And I just set up a shale-petstore ;-) Do you envision this being more then the petstore app? Also, are we sure we want google as opposed to dev.java.net? I don't know much about the google option. It seems like we can have discussion via a google group. What about distribution of jar files?

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2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1. I was wanting to figure out what all that google open source stuff was about anyway. But I'm cool with either google or java.net. I just set up "shale-goodies" for us at Google[1]. Note that you must have a GMail account to log in with

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2006-08-03 Thread Greg Reddin
+1. I was wanting to figure out what all that google open source stuff was about anyway. But I'm cool with either google or java.net. Greg On Aug 3, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Sean Schofield wrote: I'm considering an option that Craig mentioned earlier - moving this to google's new open source area

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2006-08-03 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Yes, nothing wrong with hosting this on java.net +1 from me On 8/3/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm considering an option that Craig mentioned earlier - moving this > to google's new open source area. While I understand the

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2006-08-03 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm considering an option that Craig mentioned earlier - moving this to google's new open source area. While I understand the reasons for the tight restrictions that ASF has, it makes it difficult to host a fully functional sample app using s

Re: Should we move shale-petstore somewhere else? Was --> Re: Wikipedia: More Licensing Questions

2006-08-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/3/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm considering an option that Craig mentioned earlier - moving this to google's new open source area. While I understand the reasons for the tight restrictions that ASF has, it makes it difficult to host a fully functional sample app using s

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2006-08-03 Thread Sean Schofield
I'm considering an option that Craig mentioned earlier - moving this to google's new open source area. While I understand the reasons for the tight restrictions that ASF has, it makes it difficult to host a fully functional sample app using several different technologies. On google (and presumab