Besides the traffic eventual issue, I don't believe that it would benefit
users to get a standalone site. Some great answers are provided by users
that aren't spark experts but maybe java, python, aws or even some system
experts why do we want to play alone ?
We are trying nevertheless the animat
: assaf.mendelson; dev@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
Here's a view into the requirements, for example:
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/76571/emacs<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__area51.stackexchange.com_proposals_76571
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I don't think there's nearly enough traffic to sustain a stand-alone SE. I
helped mod the Data Science SE and
I don't think there's nearly enough traffic to sustain a stand-alone SE. I
helped mod the Data Science SE and it's still not technically critical mass
after 2 years. It would just fracture the discussion to yet another place.
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Awesome stuff! Thanks Sean! :-)
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I updated the wiki to point
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Hey Reynold,
Looks like we all of the proposed changes into Proposed Community Mailing
Lists / StackOverflow Change
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Hey Reynold,
Looks like we all of the proposed changes into Proposed Community Mailing Lists
/ StackOverflow
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> Agreed that by simply just moving the questions to SO wil
fit.
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> Assaf.
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he
> community should answer and hard questions which only advanced users
> can answer.
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> Maybe SO isn’t the correct platform for that but even within it we can
> try to find a non meta name for spark beginner questions vs. spark
> advanced questions.
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> Assaf.
lack of
> > process. It actually requires cultivating a culture change on the
> community
> > list.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:11 PM Mendelson, Assaf <
> assaf.mendel...@rsa.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> What I am suggesting is basically to fix
er even poorly-asked questions with a link
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> relevant docs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Sean Owen
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
Agreed that by simply just moving the questions to SO will not solve anything
but I think the call out about the meta-tags is that we need to abide by SO
rules and if we were to just jump in and start creating meta-tags, we would be
violating at
d a non meta name for spark beginner questions vs. spark advanced
> questions.
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> Assaf.
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> *From:* Denny Lee [via Apache Spark Developers List] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden
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> *S
s and manage it in jira?
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>>
>>
>> Anyway as I said, the main issue is not user questions (except maybe
>> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so easy to get lost in the
>> chatter that it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
>&
arder to manage.
>>
>> Maybe using special jira tags and manage it in jira?
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>>
>> Anyway as I said, the main issue is not user questions (except maybe
>> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so easy to get lost in the
>> chatter that i
mailing
> >> list B is only for PR and have something like stack overflow for
> developer
> >> questions (I would even go as far as to have beginner, intermediate and
> >> advanced mailing list for users and beginner/advanced for dev).
> >>
> >>
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;> list B is only for PR and have something
>>> like stack overflow for developer
>>> >> questions (I would even go as far as to
>>> have beginner, intermediate and
>>>
ser groups once a question has been properly filtered which is
> quite common.
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> PS. Personally, I would not follow any “bespoke/external” process on SO
> E.g. down-voting on SO for any other reason that being a bad question as
> per SO rules.
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per SO
rules.
From: Matei Zaharia [mailto:matei.zaha...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 November 2016 07:45
To: assaf.mendelson
Cc: dev@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
Even for the mailing list, I'd love to have a short set of instructions on how
to submit your
t;
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> This is an excellent point. If we do go ahead and fea
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This is an excellent point. If we do go ahead and feature SO as a way for users
to ask questions more prominently, as someone wh
;>>>>> > get attention, and we'll be back where we started. Putting it in
>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>> > doesn't help. I don't think this a problem that is merely down to
>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>> > process. It actually requires cultivating a c
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This can easily be done using stack overflow
>> tags, however, that would
>> >&
res cultivating a culture change on the
>>>>> community
>>>>> > list.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:11 PM Mendelson, Assaf <
>>>>> assaf.mendel...@rsa.com>
>>>>> > wrot
d
> >> probably be harder to manage.
> >>
> >> Maybe using special jira tags and manage it in jira?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway as I said, the main issue is
;> >>
>>>> >> What I am suggesting is basically to fix that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For example, we might say that mailing list A is only for voting,
>>>> mailing
>>>> >> list B is only for PR and h
gt; >> advanced mailing list for users and beginner/advanced for dev).
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> This can easily be done using stack overflow tags, however, that would
>>> >> probably be harder to manage.
>>> >
uld
> >> probably be harder to manage.
> >>
> >> Maybe using special jira tags and manage it in jira?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway as I said, the main issue is not user questions (except maybe
> >> advanced ones) but more for d
ept maybe
> >> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so easy to get lost in
> the
> >> chatter that it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
> >>
> >> Assaf.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sean Owen [m
people to learn spark internals…
>>
>> Assaf.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sean Owen [mailto:so...@cloudera.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:07 PM
>> To: Mendelson, Assaf; dev@spark.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
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> I think that unfortunately mailing lists don't scale well. This one has
> thousands of subscribers with di
questions. It is so easy to get lost in the chatter that
it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
Assaf.
From: Sean Owen [mailto:so...@cloudera.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:07 PM
To: Mendelson, Assaf; dev@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing
I think that unfortunately mailing lists don't scale well. This one has
thousands of subscribers with different interests and levels of experience.
For any given person, most messages will be irrelevant. I also find that a
lot of questions on user@ are not well-asked, aren't an SSCCE (
http://sscce
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