On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, vineet sood wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just joined the party and new over here. Let me know how I can be of
> help, as its boring to sit idle :) .
>
A good place to start is here:
http://struts.apache.org/helping.html
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Cheers,
> Vineet
>
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Rene Gielen wrote:
>
> Am 28.11.12 06:14, schrieb Martin Cooper:
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Johannes Geppert
> wrote:
> >
> >> It looks there is a broad agreement related to the projects links and
> the
> >> R
ooks like this is our current News Section. ;-)
>
Why are we supporting commercial enterprises from our site? As a 501(c)3
organisation, are we allowed to do that?
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> Struts2" linked.
> But th
ve? Never heard about it.
> > http://struts.sourceforge.net/
>
> I've been using it some times ago, but not any more but I think it
> should stay :-)
>
Yeah, it should stay. It's where we can point non-committers to check in
Struts-related code, if they so wish.
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ment" section in the navigation menu, and read the "How
to Help FAQ". You've asked several times about how to create a patch, but
all the information is there on the web site, and easy to find, if you'll
just take some time to look.
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> Link
>
>
o provide
it as a plugin, people can experiment with it, and deploy it if they decide
they like it. But we are not going to throw out what has been solid for
years and replace it with something that hasn't been tested like Commons
FileUpload has.
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this is cur
#x27;t really the concept of "end of life" for an open source project.
As long as there are volunteers to maintain it, it will be maintained.
Those volunteers might be existing committers, new volunteers, one of the
companies that support open source com
stupload as an
alternative to what's there today, if they choose to do so for their
application.
By the way, your code is hard to check out because of the messed up
repository structure, and there are also several typos even in the
interface and method names. Those things detract from
anual testing of
examples as part of every build is not a trivial task either -
especially when you find that something over the last few months broke
an app, nobody discovered the breakage until now, and now you can't
release until you've fixed it.
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Dave Newton wrote:
> Anyone?
I am just guessing, but perhaps this?
http://y.ahoo.it/Qzl2h
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> So far it appears as though the patch only fixed the old filter and not
> those of the ng variety?
>
> Also, I'm wondering if
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Łukasz Lenart
wrote:
> 2012/6/11 Martin Cooper :
>> And that last part is crucial. Before we head down that path, we need
>> to ensure that we have at least 2 PMC members who are willing to
>> maintain such a thing over the long term.
up and running you might want to check into that again.
And that last part is crucial. Before we head down that path, we need
to ensure that we have at least 2 PMC members who are willing to
maintain such a thing over the long term. Infra may provide the
environment, but only if we're prepare
a question about using Struts, and should therefore be
directed to the User list. The Dev list is for discussion of the
development of the Struts framework itself.
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> If I change something on the form and if validation is GOOD, then
> creatTimestmp value is retained to the
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Maurizio Cucchiara
wrote:
> Personally I did some changes in the struts master in the past which are
> not yet released (I upgraded some plugin versions if I recall correctly).
> So this is +1.
Which is ... a vote for a vote? :-p
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why you would want to do that, rather than use an
existing component-oriented framework in a situation that warrants
that style. I'd also encourage you to think about why tens of
thousands of developers have chosen Struts as an action-oriented
framework when they too could have chosen a component-or
prefer to see the latter, since that's a good
sign of a healthy, vibrant community.
The people here who work on Struts do so because they want to. They
volunteer their time to scratch their itches. If showing up in SO
conversations isn't part of their itch, they won't show up there. We
and the zip
file does nothing useful. At the same time, you reviewed the source
code, not the bits, and you voted for GA. Other people did the same
thing, and the end result was a "GA" release that didn't even work.
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> So confused. Hmm, maybe I can run tests after
he process above, and what we
have been doing since we changed it, is the week-long wait to allow
everyone in the community enough time to test the test build before a
vote is called. Otherwise the process is identical. Really!
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> If we feel that this is the better / cle
of
the vote is a *release* (i.e. GA, Beta, Alpha) then we could choose to
announce that on the site; however, if the result of the vote is *not*
a release (i.e. the build remains a test build), then no, we shouldn't
update the site.
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> Kind regards
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> Łukasz
>
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Rene Gielen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm both commenting on Martin's and Lukasz' mail - see inline
>
> On 18.12.11 22:35, Łukasz Lenart wrote:
>> I've moved the discussion to the new thread as to not mismatch two
>>
e ask on the appropriate list. That would be the User list. There
are many more people there who can help you out. The Dev list is for
discussion of the development of Struts itself.
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2011/12/12 Łukasz Lenart :
> 2011/12/9 Martin Cooper :
>> We used to post the test build, announce it, wait for a week to give
>> people some time to try it out, and then call the vote, since the vote
>> is time-limited. Did we stop doing that at some point, and only give
ote, with 4 available choices. You
need to pick the quality level that you are willing to tell the world
you will stand by. :-)
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We used to post the test build, announce it, wait for a week to give
people some time to try it out, and then call the vote, since the vote
is time-limited. Did we stop doing that at some point, and only give
people 3 days (i.e. the duration of the vote) to test now?
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2011/12/8
ion when I should have spoken up.
Should be fixed now.
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> Hello Martin,
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>
>>> I have added a hero section.
>
>> A what?
>
> This is the
ubes and is pretty awful. I'd personally prefer to see us
stick with what we have unless the usability can be brought back to at
least what we have now. Usability is far more important than pretty or
trendy.
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> Cheers
> Christian
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Mau
As long as you are using native2ascii, property files support CJKV.
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> I have that:
>
> struts.i18n.encoding=UTF-8
>
>
> but it doesn't help. I need to use \u format but of course this
> would mean my sudden death when I need to find out all the chi
hange from Struts 2 to Struts 3, Struts NG or basically
anything that's no longer Struts 2 will send a signal to the community
that the changes are of the same magnitude as those between Struts 1
and Struts 2. That is, it's not compatible, and it's not clear that
it's the same fr
releases), we shouldn't need a vote for anything unless we can't
come to consensus / agreement on it. In this case, we just need to
discuss it, and if everyone agrees, do it.
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t, though, it'd
be interesting to hear why we think contributors will appear if the
project is elsewhere, when they have not done so here for the last
several years. (Or am I mistaken and we do have patches attached that
are not being applied?)
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> Johannes
>
> -
&
The UI is
pretty confusing, though, so please check. It seems to want to do a
reindex now, but it also says that will make JIRA unavailable to
everyone, so now doesn't seem like the best time.
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> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.
me
thing.
IMHO, as long as we have at least one regular dot release in which
something is deprecated, it's reasonable to remove it in a subsequent
dot release.
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> Warszawa JUG
1 mutated to p2
> is imo important ...
Ouch. You are right, keeping the history is important. If we can go
back and address this, I would suggest that we do that.
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> How do others feel about this? It's not too late to revert this to a move.
>
> - René
>
&g
a successful short term incubation.
That's very bad.
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>
>
> 2011/6/8 Lukasz Lenart :
>> We should ask o
? Sure, why not. Also to Patrick (emeritus Struts guy).
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econd vote can be
started for replacing the existing plugin, if there might be
contention, or - more likely in this case, I believe - a proposal /
discussion thread can be started to ensure that there is consensus to
do so.
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On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Johannes Geppert
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Jeff Black wrote:
> Good day.
>
> Per the Struts 2 documentation I am respectfully requesting a "Karma Upgrade"
> to my Confluence account granting me permission to contribute to the Struts 2
> documenation.
>
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, so there's little
reason to guard them. However, it's far too easy for someone else to
come along later and modify the log message without thinking about it
perhaps now needing a guard, because it's now more expensive than it
used to be. Better, then, to always guard rather than kil
truts PMC Chair. Congratulations, René!
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If you click Home from where you're looking, you'll land up at:
http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/home.html
In particular, see where is says "Have a suggestion, correction, or
improvement?".
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On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> I
nart
>> Building remotely on ubuntu1
> ...
>
> Are these supposed to be coming to the dev list? I thought we had a
> separate list for automated messages.
Confluence notifications go to the commits@ list. We could do the same
with these.
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> Hm. Looking at http://
Please move this thread to the user list. Thanks.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Johannes Geppert wrote:
>
> How looks your filter configuration?
> Do you have the filter configured only for *.action
> or also for the reccources?
>
> Johannes
>
t; It's quite uncommon, thanks Paul :-)
Actually, it's not. If you look around even just the ASF, you'll find
that a number of the best-known ASF projects use this same scheme. In
fact, we didn't invent it, we adopted it from those projects.
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of Struts over
the years (not counting test builds that didn't make releases),
including through the transition from the old scheme to the new one, I
can tell you, you don't want to go back.
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> I was looking for that discussion about labeling but didn't
es for Struts 1. I've fixed
both, so you should be all set.
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ild it themselves. (These days, with Maven,
that's not a big deal, IMO; it was a serious pain back in the early
1.x days, with the Ant builds.)
> Anyway I published the new version of the struts website on my publilc
> html folder [6] please take a look and let me know if there is
&g
rement that dev
pages live only within the dev section of the site.
Let's just maintain the site we actually want instead of preserving
cruft just because it's there.
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> Maurizio Cucchiara
>
> On Jan 26, 2011 8:08 PM, "John Lindal" wrote:
> Goo
d you have both noticed - sorry). The
corresponding .html files are generated by the Maven site build. I'm
not sure what our current status is for that site getting deployed by
Maven, but it can be done by uploading and exploding the output from
the build, if that's not working.
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the "paper trail" reflect the donation
explicitly.
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> In the end, I
> told him just to create a JIRA ticket and attach his stuff and I would
> patch.
>
> Paul
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Rene Gielen wrote:
>
>> Good question. I
The NOTICE file in the root of the distro needs a copyright update.
Right now it says "Copyright 2000-2007". Other NOTICE files (we seem
to have a lot of them!) are similarly out of date.
I don't consider this a blocker for this release, though, so +1 GA.
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the
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> [ ] Leave at test build
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X] General Availability (GA)
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, ela-chennai wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I am a sr web developer working on struts , my issue is that the old Error
> message
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Lukasz Lenart
wrote:
> 2010/12/5 Martin Cooper :
>> I guess the real question is whether or not there is some other
>> license in there, and if so, how that's categorized at the ASF.
>
> Hmm... my thought is that it never worked :P, jus
ck with the RAT folks (via their own mailing
list) to see if there's actually a problem here or not.
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> And to be more mysterious, also main struts2-parent pom.xml is missing
> the header but rat plugin isn't complaining :P
>
> How to obey that without r
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:22 AM, clockdva242 wrote:
>
> i'm using struts 2
Please address your questions to the User list.
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>
> when i call the action of the form (insert for example)
Please take this discussion to the user list. This list is for
discussion of the development of the framework itself. Thanks.
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On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:07 AM, wrote:
> I downloaded the struts2 samples 2.2.1
>
> Ok in struts2-blank-2.2.1\example\Login.jsp
> I a
some help.
You want the user list, rather than the dev list. The former is for
assistance with using Struts, which is what you're looking for. The
latter is for discussion of the development of the framework itself.
http://struts.apache.org/mail.html
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> The main issue t
t source control
system they want to use.
If there's a good reason for not having the code in the main trunk,
even when it's not part of the distribution, then I suppose it could
be moved back to the sandbox, or even to the
stance quite some time ago, but the links on the home page and
elsewhere were still referencing the old one. I just checked in a site
update to correct that (but have not refreshed the site).
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> Thanks,
> Dave
>
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uccessful. Simply
bringing the code to the ASF, though, won't improve support for it.
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>
would make sense to help out. I'm a little
surprised none of those involved have chimed in here, though.
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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:35 AM, shekher awasthi
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Working with Struts2 is always a good experience for our team.one thing
> which i always
drop in here and see that statement and see no
corresponding vote, well, that would be bad.
So when we mean the Maven thing that they happen to call a release,
let's just be explicit that we're talking about the Maven thing. And
if we use the term 'release' without qualification
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Lukasz Lenart
wrote:
> 2010/5/15 Martin Cooper :
>> If it's a published artifact, it needs a release, so yes.
>
> I made the release
I did not see a vote...
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>, but the artifact went to
> /www/people.apache.org/
If an existing key has ever been used to sign a release, it should not
be removed from the KEYS file. It's still needed to verify those older
releases. New keys should just be added without removing anything that
was there before.
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2010/5/23 :
> Author: lukaszlenart
>
;s nexus as a snapshot repo for
>> struts.
>
> As I understand I must upgrade that pom
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/maven/trunk/pom/pom.xml
>
> to use the latest apache.org parent pom. Do we need a release for that?
If it's a published artifact, it needs a rel
po at the end of last year. See
r894090. References to XWork from then on should be referencing the
Apache License 2.0, yes.
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
> Once it's correctly filled in as well as signed, and once it's
> registered with the ASF Secretary, we can make progress, yes. I'll
> reply to this thread again when both of those things are done.
I believe we ar
Once it's correctly filled in as well as signed, and once it's
registered with the ASF Secretary, we can make progress, yes. I'll
reply to this thread again when both of those things are done.
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Ben McCann wrote:
> I just sent
This has been dragging on for a very long time now. The most recent
final "couple weeks" has turned into six weeks, with no sign of any
paperwork. The code will be deleted this coming Wednesday if the
paperwork is not filed by then.
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On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM,
was cancelled!
Apparently this vote garnered zero responses. I won't try to interpret
that, but I would recommend that you change the subject line the next
time you need to restart a vote, so that it's clear to everyone that
it's a new vote, and not just to those who are still reading t
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Lukasz Lenart
wrote:
> 2010/1/27 Lukasz Lenart :
>> 2010/1/27 Martin Cooper :
>>> Whoa, I obviously missed an important thread. Can someone provide a
>>> link, please, to the thread in which this was discussed?
>>>
>>>
ed to go through IP Clearance.
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:44 PM, wrote:
> Author: lukaszlenart
> Date: Wed Jan 27 07:44:32 2010
> New Revision: 903559
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=903559&view=rev
> Log:
> Initial commit of all code donate
like to hear from Rene or Rainer about #2
>>>
>>> "2) (a) all of XWork, (b) just the XWork core, (c) some other subset of
>>> XWork"
>>>
>>> To be honest I don't even know what the other stuff is(I vaguely
>>> remember something
pt for the 2.1.8.1 release. (There are separate pages for prior
years.) It would be nice if we could resurrect this.
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Where are we on this? Lukasz, are you going to be able to kick off a
new vote after we have all of the proper artifacts in place?
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Lukasz Lenart
wrote:
> 2010/1/6 Frans Thamura :
>> Lukasz, can u share, where is the source code of your
o #1 and #3, so we're close. ;-)
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> musachy
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>> yes I meant under struts2, sorry for the confusion
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>
>> We need to get past this. Where it lives does *not* have an impact on
>> whether it's built together with, or separately from, the rest of S2.
>> It can
t past this. Where it lives does *not* have an impact on
whether it's built together with, or separately from, the rest of S2.
It can stay where it is and also be built along with, and released as
part of, S2. There are multiple ways of achieving that, the use of
externals being one of them.
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>> be built easily
>
> I agree. Right now it is a pain to release xwork separately, so let's
> not do that.
That is probably the one piece of the puzzle that is clear and agreed
upon right now. :-)
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why is 1a better than 1c, for
example? And what is the answer to 2? Neither of these are answered by
the statement that you want to be able to build easily.
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> musahcy
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Musac
arly stated
proposal and an explanation of why it's the right way to go.
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> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Lukasz Lenart
> wrote:
>> 2010/1/6 Musachy Barroso :
>>>> Really? I haven't seen much discussion since I posted what I believe
>>
saw quite a
few different opinions expressed, almost all in different terms (which
is why I posted what I did), but I'm not sure I saw a consensus
emerge.
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>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Lukasz Lenart
> wrote:
>> 2009/12/28 Paul Benedict :
&
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
> [snip]
>> ... If you download the files, you have no way of knowing
>> if they are the same ones you put there...
>
> No way of knowing... except the ch
e signing anything. Think of it as signing a blank
check and then giving that check to a stranger. Not something you want
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>
> 1. sign the files/generate checksums locally and upload them
> 2. do the release again
>
> I'd say #
t that it's one
checkout instead of two. With that option, nothing about the build or
the build documentation changes, AFAICT. Is that what we want? I don't
know, I'm just suggesting that it's a low-cost way of moving forward
now that the code is in our repo.
I don't have a
he 'struts2' folder. I take it
this is not what you have in mind?
I have to say that 'copy' is not a word I like to see in reference to
source control. ;-) It implies a forking of the code base that we
would need to be very sure about. Is that actually what you mean?
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> Paul
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Lukasz Lenart
> wrote:
>> 2009/12/27 Martin Cooper :
>>> As many of you have no doubt noticed already, I've checked in the
>>> XWork
hy,
Wes, Lukasz and Rene, all of whom are Struts committers already.
That's largely the point.
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> Niall
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of
>> the XWork project
r wants to integrate it further.
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gh, if that's where your itch lies, you are of course
welcome to scratch it. :-)
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> Paul
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Paul Benedict wrote:
>>> Can we defer the research into another wik
would move our content to, it's an alternative means
for the community to add content to existing pages.
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>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Paul Benedict wrote:
>>> Thanks Martin an
My own vote:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
> [X] Yes, accept the XWork project
> [ ] I don't really care one way or the other
> [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify)
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On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Paul Benedict wrote:
> Thanks Martin and Wendy for your replies.
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> If you're concerned about the need for committership, then certainly
>> the bar is a bit higher than just fil
content and comments
alongside the official docs. Anyone have an opinion on how viable, or
otherwise, this might be?
So I guess what I'm saying is that no, I don't think I have "technical
objections", but I think there might be other alterna
l you'll need.
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Martin Cooper
> I
> want to create a patch to make javassist optional it should take a
> just a couple of lines.
>
> musachy
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Lukasz Lenart
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> A bit unrelated question, who ma
trying to understand the disappointment you expressed. My own
disappointment, to the extent that I have any, is that we let the
Maven team define the standards that we use for our releases, but as I
said before, I'm not married to keeping the "old" way.
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Martin Cooper
> Paul
&
_3_11".
>
> Either way we decide, it is not a major loss for the other side, but
> not able to accept Maven defaults is a bit disappointing.
Who / what is not able to accept them?
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Martin Cooper
> Paul
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
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