Re: Struts Shale

2004-10-28 Thread Dakota Jack
How could there be a reason not to do this? (This is not a rhetorical question.) Jack On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:08:40 -0400, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:50:05 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > My personal itch is to not have to build everything from scratch -- >

Re: Struts Shale

2004-10-28 Thread Dakota Jack
Why is it not possible for the framework to use interfaces into which JSF can be plugged in, perhaps with adapters, as an option well as other alternatives? This too is not a rhetorical question. Jack On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:16:56 -0700, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu

Re: Struts Shale

2004-10-28 Thread Dakota Jack
I admit to a huge amount of ignorance about JSF. I have partly been stymied by an inability to decide on a text to read. I have always liked Hans work, and may go that direction. I cannot know, of course, how that ignorance impacts my part in this discussion. I do think that in any event it is

Re: Another post on what the users what in the future

2004-11-19 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Vic, Magnolia seems to be oriented to developers whereas JDNC is oriented to clients/users. Which connection are you seeing with Struts? For my part, I don't see a connection with either. Struts is not either a clientside application or a graphics or page-builder tool. So, I am confuse

SVN and Struts

2004-11-21 Thread Dakota Jack
I have installed TortoiseSVN and created the SVNRepository on my local machine. Can someone save me a bit of time and give me the rigmarole for getting the Struts dev files? That would be appreciated. Thanks. Jack -- "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb

Re: Proposed Roadmap for 1.3.x and beyond [long]

2004-11-21 Thread Dakota Jack
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:47:39 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Consider a "populate" method on ActionForm. From an OOP standpoint, it might > be cleaner if an ActionForm populated itself rather than rely on an "god" > class to populate it from the outside. > Yes! This would reve

SVN Speed Slower than CVS ?

2004-11-21 Thread Dakota Jack
SVN seems to be considerably slower than CVS. Is that standard for most people? Jack -- "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows." ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~ ---

Re: SVN Updates

2004-11-21 Thread Dakota Jack
Well, I'm soon going to find out what the disk outage is for the struts directory. Man! Whew! I started just doing asf. Not good! I'm still deleting on that one. LOL I hope there are no major file reorganizations happening soon. ;-) Jack On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:43:30 -0600, Eddie Bush <[E

Build with SVN

2004-11-22 Thread Dakota Jack
The ARChives are down -- search errors -- so I have to ask a question which has probably been covered well there. How do you build from SVN. The Struts SVN download, by the way, was 1.68 gigs on the disk. Woo hoo! Jack -- "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Pr

Can JSF Navigation be Reasonably Rewritten?

2004-11-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Is there a potential useful and reasonable "rewrite" of JSF so that the sort of navigation (controller) system in Struts can be employed instead of the page based navigation in JSF consistent with the rest of JSF, or is the page based navigation too tied to the rest of JSF? Thanks for any insights

Re: Build with SVN

2004-11-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Martin -- Jack On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:04:02 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:26:50 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The ARChives are down -- search errors -- so I have to ask a question > > whic

Re: Build with SVN

2004-11-22 Thread Dakota Jack
n Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:04:02 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:26:50 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The ARChives are down -- search errors -- so I have to ask a question > > which has probably been covered well there. &

Re: Build with SVN: add getLocalPort() to MultipartServletRequest?

2004-11-22 Thread Dakota Jack
e man to talk to on this one, Martin. What do you think? Is that a bad idea at this time? Could just use a hack for the moment? Jack On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:17:16 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:11:30 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Anyone Got a Servlet 2.3 handy for Struts Upload Build?

2004-11-22 Thread Dakota Jack
I am trying to build 1_2_6 and Struts upload requires something prior to Servlet 2.4. Does someone have a Servlet 2.2 or 2.3 around that I can use for the build? I would appreciate that. Just email it, if you do and would like to donate tot he cause. I really don't want to go searching around f

Re: Chain enhancement idea

2004-11-24 Thread Dakota Jack
Without disagreeing with anything you have said, Don, I think the confusion is caused in part by the fact that CoR is anticipated in part for its pluggable nature. In this respect, there is a real connection in functionality between CoR and IoC that is not as attenuated as the one between HashMap

Re: Shale application-wide controller

2004-11-24 Thread Dakota Jack
Where is this checked in. folks? Jack On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:44:04 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any reason that a JSF-independent version of the > application-wide controller scheme, as just checked in, couldn't be > part of Struts 1.3? Or, for that matter, even p

Re: Chain enhancement idea

2004-11-24 Thread Dakota Jack
ave more control over the process of events, as well as what > components are used by that process. So yes, one goal perhaps, but two > different problems being solved in two different ways. > > Don > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > >Without disagreeing with any

Re: Shale application-wide controller

2004-11-24 Thread Dakota Jack
McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:39:45 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where is this checked in. folks? > > We recently reorganized the repository so that independent pieces of > "Struts" could be branched and rele

Re: Shale application-wide controller

2004-11-25 Thread Dakota Jack
Double Hmm? I just tried again, but this time instead of updating all of shale I just did the trunk, and it worked. What is up with that? Jack On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:37:14 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:32:26 -0800, Dakota Jac

Commons Utilities: ActionForm Implementing Map

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
Do the new commons utility classes allow us to have an ActionForm implement Map? Jack -- "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows." ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~ ---

JERICHO interfaces and HOT deployment and SCRIPT compiling

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
Assuming that there is a significant interest in Jericho, which from the work on chain as well as other notes and discussions on the list, I think I can assume there is, would there also be an interest in making the significant class factories in Jericho hot deploy factories? I would like to open

Re: JERICHO interfaces and HOT deployment and SCRIPT compiling

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Martin, Some notes: On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:05:22 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are currently discussing the use of Commons Chain in the Struts 1.x > family, starting with 1.3. The idea is that we would replace the > current request processor with the one from st

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsFileDownload

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
Whatever the fate and whatever the nature of this submission, having this sort of development available to users and to developers is, I think, a definite plus. Does it make sense for Struts to have a repository for such things, even if they are not in the distribution to others? It does to me.

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsFileDownload

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:24:41 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:39:51 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whatever the fate and whatever the nature of this submission, having > > this sort of development available to

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsFileDownload

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
7;re suggesting. So perhaps you could > clarify what it is that you _are_ suggesting? ;-) If it's not in > Struts SVN, and it's not in Struts Applications at SourceForge, what - > and where - is it? > > -- > Martin Cooper > > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsFileDownload

2004-11-26 Thread Dakota Jack
I just noticed this. Looks like Ted already has something along the lines I was thinking going with this Apps business. What's up with that? Jack On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:27:44 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a download module in the struts-examples application. Original

Re: Apps (was ... StrutsFileDownload)

2004-11-27 Thread Dakota Jack
Downloading a file in Struts is, as Martin says, "almost trivial". In fact, downloading a file in Java is pretty danged easy. So is number theory: five postulates. What's to worry? LOL http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/number/index.asp . * Pl. 0 is a number. * P2. The successor

Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-28 Thread Dakota Jack
owing the > user to have more control over the process of events, as well as what > components are used by that process. So yes, one goal perhaps, but two > different problems being solved in two different ways. > > Don > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > >W

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-28 Thread Dakota Jack
an <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:36:27 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > > > With hot deploy, instead of switching the implementation and the name > > of the implementation class, e.g. ColonSeparatedMovieFinder

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-29 Thread Dakota Jack
Here is code, as opposed to "pretty pictures" -- LOL ;-) This is intended to demonstrate how simple Had is in contrast to normal Service Locator or Inversion of Control (Dependency Injection) frameworks. Remember, THIS IS ALL THE CODE. There are no NanoContainers. Not XML. No Config classes,

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-29 Thread Dakota Jack
ould, on the dynamic proxies. I think I know what you mean but do not want to muddy the waters and would rather have you elaborate a bit. Okay? "Eschew obfuscation and avoid metaphors 'til the cows come home!" Thanks, again, Jack > > Craig > > > > > On Mon,

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-29 Thread Dakota Jack
Just a few notes and more later after some thought: On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:01:43 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:04:48 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yup! Dang! LOL Nothing is free, is it?

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-29 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Craig. I think there might be a misunderstanding. See within. On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:32:06 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:36:09 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am not sure what you mean by &q

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-30 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks for the information, Peter. A couple of comments within. To think ahead to the next couple of submissions, I know about Halloway, and based most of what I have done so far on his thinking. On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:04:58 -, Pilgrim, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hence WebL

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-30 Thread Dakota Jack
Hi, Paul, Sorry to disappoint you, but thanks for stopping in to say you are not interested. LOL Seriously, this is a "think tank" thread not a completed idea which is being ballyhooed thread. If you know a better way than is being presented, please step up. I have not seen this conversation a

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-30 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks again. More useful information, Craig. I am trying to figure out a good way to do a Registry.java class without messing up garbage collection. I was hoping to use finalize() to keep track outside of the garbage collection loop of live classes, but have discovered, I think, that only class

Re: Think Tank Thread on IoC, CoR, and HaD (hot arse deploy) [was Re: Chain enhancement idea]

2004-11-30 Thread Dakota Jack
I'm putting a cap on my work here for the moment. I would be interested if anyone has some ideas, directions, etc. they could offer on the Registry issues. I would like to thank everyone, even Paul ;-), for their assistance on this thread. I need to do some homework and then will be back on this

WeakReference

2004-12-01 Thread Dakota Jack
Working here on a "new" paradigm, sort of, I think. Apparently you can track what has happened to a strong reference with a weak reference but you cannot manipulate the object referred to by the strong reference by manipulating the weak reference. Is that right? Seems odd to me. Jack -- "Y

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-01 Thread Dakota Jack
null. > > Maybe it would help to know what you are trying to do with it. There > are other Reference implementations that may be better suited. > > -Paul > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > > Working here on a "new" paradigm, sort of, I think. > > > >

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 00:05:12 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget that Strings are immutable in Java :-). > > You might have better luck experimenting with a JavaBean that has > getters/setters for the properties you want to be able to mess with. > > Craig > > Thank

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
Paul and Craig I am getting what I expect with the following code (see below), thanks to Craig, but not with the code which you can find at http://131.191.32.112:8080/classes.zip and I am not sure what the difference is. Essentially, I am trying to keep a WeakReference to Point classes so that wh

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
lease)wr.get())); } } class CheckPlease { private String bill = "0.00"; public void setBill(String add) { if(add == null) add = "freebee"; else bill += " + " + add; } public String getBill() { return bill; } public String toString() { ret

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Craig, I am going to have to look into this more, then. Interesting stuff in any event. Jack On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:07:28 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:56:31 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ess

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
PointComposite would be updated via a callback with a weak referenced listener. This may all be way too complex. If so, then I can abandon it, but I think it deserves a look. I think maybe it could be made simple. Jack On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:10:58 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please move this thread to a Java language mailing list. This > discussion is not related to Struts. Thanks. > > -- > Martin Cooper > > > > > On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:30:03 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
s, but as a general practice it's probably prohibitively > expensive and error prone. And for those key interfaces, it's almost > always better to have both parties involved in the negotiation, ie: tell > Foo it has a new Bar implementation so it can synch its logic properly. &

Re: [OT] Re: WeakReference

2004-12-02 Thread Dakota Jack
ourney to realizing your ideas. > > -Paul > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > > Thanks for your input, Martin, however . > > > > I am doing this in an attempt to flush out HaD, Martin. HaD is a > > potential Struts 2.0 imple

[OT] HaD -- solution hot deploy framework for classes

2004-12-03 Thread Dakota Jack
I figured out how to efficiently do the HaD for classes. Not too hard actually. This will allow key framework classes to be hot deployed and will act as a simpler, though how effective remains to be seen, way to solve the problem IoC is presently used to solve through dependency injection. The s

[OT] HaD, JMX MLet and core Struts hot deploy

2004-12-05 Thread Dakota Jack
Those on the dev list whom have been secretly corresponding with me about HaD and Struts 2.0 hot deploy can find the latest at http://131.191.32.112:8080/hot_deploy.zip. I have discovered that the solution is essentially a much more lightweight version of JMX MLet for hot deploy widely used in var

Re: [OT] HaD, JMX MLet and core Struts hot deploy

2004-12-05 Thread Dakota Jack
, int y) in PointImpl and compiling to see the hot deploy work. Jack [LAST ENTRY IN THIS THREAD] On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:21:20 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those on the dev list whom have been secretly corresponding with me > about HaD and Struts 2.0 hot deploy can fin

Re: two step wizard like interface?

2004-12-08 Thread Dakota Jack
I have sent you an answer on the user list under the same subject line Jack On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:59:39 + (UTC), Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there. Help a struts rookie pls. > > I have successfully implemented a two step wizard like interface where I have > A.jsp for the first step

ActionForm implementing Map

2004-12-10 Thread Dakota Jack
Do the newer versions of commons utils allow an ActionForm to implement Map? Thanks! Jack -- "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows." ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~

Re: ActionForm implementing Map

2004-12-10 Thread Dakota Jack
-0600, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HTML tag lib for getters. (Else you could do some funky EL) > Request processor you should look at for setters. Also look at Joda > beans on sf.net. > > My implement ion made a FormBean into a List (for mutirow CRUD). > > .V &

Re: ActionForm implementing Map

2004-12-10 Thread Dakota Jack
Struts sub project on sf.net. > I am not a comitter, just so you know. > > .V > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > >Thanks, Vic, > > > >Your assistance is a little dark to me. It seems as if you are > >suggesting solutions other than using a Map imple

[OT] Re: ActionForm implementing Map

2004-12-13 Thread Dakota Jack
ect analogy, then, would not be a court of appeals but a commanding officer. ;-) In a court of appeals, you get to have your briefs read and you have time to speak too. But, as I said, "sigh". -- "You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it float on its back." ~D

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsState

2004-12-13 Thread Dakota Jack
James, You are right. I took the stuff off the wiki. Jack On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:26:31 -0500, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dakota Jack, you really should stop trying to host content on your home pc. > Everything you've ever posted on the list or on the wiki as

Re: Struts + Chain enhancement idea

2004-12-14 Thread Dakota Jack
uestion) > > Does struts-faces provide a way for the JSF reference implementation to > work with tiles and not require two jsps per view? > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "Yo

Re: Struts + Chain enhancement idea

2004-12-15 Thread Dakota Jack
h included something called a TROJAN HORSE? Jack On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:50:38 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Dakota Jack wrote: > > > How is JSF not OT with struts-dev or struts-user? Struts is not dead > > yet, is

Re: Struts + Chain enhancement idea

2004-12-15 Thread Dakota Jack
) Jack On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:50:38 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Dakota Jack wrote: > > > How is JSF not OT with struts-dev or struts-user? Struts is not dead > > yet, is it? And, if not, why is struts airtime fre

Re: Commons Chain Cookbook: Why have Struts Actions?

2004-12-17 Thread Dakota Jack
-sig > the implementation. Jack -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary

Re: Commons Chain Cookbook: Why have Struts Actions?

2004-12-17 Thread Dakota Jack
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can&#x

Re: ActionForm implementing Map

2004-12-10 Thread Dakota Jack
(Http11Protocol.java:732) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:619) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:688) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:18:45 -0800, Dakota Jack <[

Re: Struts + Chain enhancement idea

2004-12-14 Thread Dakota Jack
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Dakota Jack wrote: > > > How is JSF not OT with struts-dev or struts-user? Struts is not dead > > yet, is it? And, if not, why is struts airtime free to JSF? > > You don't consider a question about ST

Re: Extracting taglibs

2004-12-21 Thread Dakota Jack
a consistent approach to > > subprojects, where they may (and probably should) link to Struts core, > > but Struts core should not depend on them. > > I hope this can actually be accomplished ... Jack -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back.&q

Re: Documentation Roadmap

2004-12-22 Thread Dakota Jack
urces > 10 - Plug Ins > 11 - web.xml > 12 - Getting Started > > Then do the same for the Validator and Tiles DTDs. > My $.02 is that this order actually will be easier for newbies. +1 Jack -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."

Re: Documentation Roadmap

2004-12-22 Thread Dakota Jack
-- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows." ~Hunk

Re: ViewUtils and UtilityFactory (was Extracting taglibs)

2004-12-23 Thread Dakota Jack
gic suitable for inclusion > in Commands like this as well. > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- -- &q

Re: [struts-faces] JSF integration into Struts

2004-12-23 Thread Dakota Jack
"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles

Re: Any comment on the SessionUtils ting I submitted?

2004-12-28 Thread Dakota Jack
; > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Ja

Re: RoadMap [was Re: ViewUtils ... ]

2004-12-30 Thread Dakota Jack
- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- ------ "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."

Re: Shale for 2.x? (was Re: RoadMap)

2004-12-30 Thread Dakota Jack
servlet/JSP container). It would be > tiresome to keep having to deal with an incorrect perception, based on > the fact that it would be a subproject. > > Craig > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-ma

Re: RoadMap [was Re: ViewUtils ... ][Slightly OT]

2004-12-30 Thread Dakota Jack
--- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not

Re: Basic workflow engine

2004-12-30 Thread Dakota Jack
g with me on this. > > > > > > I'd be interested in seeing what you've come up with. > > > > > > > > > > > sean > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > >

Re: Basic workflow engine

2004-12-30 Thread Dakota Jack
, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- ------ "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sigh

Re: "Use Cases" Example Webapp for the Shale proposal

2005-01-03 Thread Dakota Jack
e Javadocs for this application will be published soon, with a pointer on > the Wiki, and nightly builds will commence this evening. > > -------- > > Craig > >

Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-04 Thread Dakota Jack
here possible. This is one of the main reasons I have difficulty with JSF. I really am contrary to the coupling. Jack -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person w

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-04 Thread Dakota Jack
> . In EditAction they do edit logic, and than forward to ResultAction. > > As discussed in bug 16107: > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 > > Regards, Jan > > -Original Message- > From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: dins

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-04 Thread Dakota Jack
lf instead of hunting around > struts-config looking for it. :-) > > > Regards, Jan > > sean > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-04 Thread Dakota Jack
self instead of hunting around struts-config > > looking for it. :-) > > What logic? > > - Dave > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- -- "

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-04 Thread Dakota Jack
age and may be helpful to some. Indeed, from my mail, I would say the latter is true. Jack On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:10:13 -0600, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 9:35 AM -0800 1/4/05, Dakota Jack wrote: > >Craig's says that the problem is solved by tight coupling.

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-04 Thread Dakota Jack
]> wrote: > At 9:35 AM -0800 1/4/05, Dakota Jack wrote: > >Craig's says that the problem is solved by tight coupling. That also > >seems to be true. > > Look, Jack: we all realize that you don't care for JSF and don't > think it should be a fundamental com

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-05 Thread Dakota Jack
problem at the root of needing to change an entire archetecture? Jack On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:32:56 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dakota, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: dinsdag 4 jan

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-05 Thread Dakota Jack
illing, and able to do the work. > > In a volunteer environment, Darwin always decides. The better technology > attracts the best volunteers. Better volunteers do better work, and the > spiral continues upward. > > Which is better? I don't know. Neither do you, or Joe, or

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-05 Thread Dakota Jack
they do edit logic, and than forward to ResultAction. > > As discussed in bug 16107: > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 > > Regards, Jan > > -Original Message- > From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: dinsdag 4 januari 2005

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-05 Thread Dakota Jack
e compared to that conceptually. > > The flip-side (where my mixed feelings come in, partially) is that I've > never really bought into the whole "call the server to handle every > little UI event" model. I suppose that's a separate debate though :) > > -- &g

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-05 Thread Dakota Jack
mapping. This make sense to you? Jack -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His s

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-05 Thread Dakota Jack
not make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows." ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~

Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF

2005-01-06 Thread Dakota Jack
I would not have written this had I received Craig's note first. Sometimes someone has to tell you that you are not nuts. Jack On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:54:09 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ted, I think I may be getting where our communication was breaking >

Re: Bug in DownloadAction?

2005-01-06 Thread Dakota Jack
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is

Dynamic MessageResources ???

2005-01-07 Thread Dakota Jack
What is the reason why ModuleConfigImpl freezes mrconfig? Would there be some difficulty in making message resources dynamic? Jack -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't

1.3 and ActionForm

2005-01-09 Thread Dakota Jack
o water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows.&qu

Re: New Struts 1.3.0-dev build available

2005-01-12 Thread Dakota Jack
"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for

Re: [shale] Re: Struts Shale

2005-01-18 Thread Dakota Jack
hat the session can be cleaned > >>fairly easy when skipping from one dialog to the other and information > >>is not unnessecarly stored. > > > > > > My current thinking is that we want the ability to have more than one > > active dialog, so you can "push&quo

Re: [shale] Re: Struts Shale

2005-01-18 Thread Dakota Jack
ot; at the end? > > > > > > Craig > > > > sean > > > > Hubert > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

Re: [shale] Re: Struts Shale

2005-01-19 Thread Dakota Jack
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Re: [shale] Re: Struts Shale

2005-01-20 Thread Dakota Jack
> >>> solution that we're using now. Wizard generally implies a > >>> guided series of steps where you can go forwards and backwards > >>> (at least to me it does.) > >>> > >>> sean > >>> > >>> --------

Re: [shale] Re: Struts Shale

2005-01-20 Thread Dakota Jack
> > > > > > > > > > > > Craig In my experience, this sort of program, app, or whatever you want to call it, is better stored in application scope. That way there are no limits to the algorithms you can foster. Jack -- -- "

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New Struts subproject: Shale

2005-01-23 Thread Dakota Jack
ed framework. -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows.&

Re: Struts View

2005-02-06 Thread Dakota Jack
p file, if you want to send that. I cannot answer you more helpfully about a standard place it would be good to send it: sorry! Jack -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." "Heaven has changed. The Sky now goes all the way to our feet. ~Dakot

Re: Change Action, ActionForm to use ActionContext?

2005-02-13 Thread Dakota Jack
ion or suit at law - ac·tion·ably /-blE/ adverb Could the interface be called "Action"? I imagine this has all been discussed before and will set off a firestorm of "Lordy Lordy"s. But, what the heck, one can keep trying to be helpful. Jack -- "You can lead a horse

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