RE: Subversion Vision and Roadmap Proposal

2010-04-06 Thread Bob Archer
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 07:04:42AM +0200, Branko Čibej wrote: > > On 05.04.2010 17:06, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > > An idea we're playing with to mitigate this problem is having > designated > > > properties in the svn: namespace which allow users to tell svn what > their > > > branching/merging

RE: Subversion Vision and Roadmap Proposal

2010-04-09 Thread Bob Archer
> In particular, there are people who have patches for svn, and we don't > handle them very well. In some cases, there is a high bar of > review/change/resubmit that turns people off. In other cases, people > are focused on whatever task they're working on, and the patches are > left by the wayside

RE: Subversion Vision and Roadmap Proposal

2010-04-09 Thread Bob Archer
> > P.S. Plase, introduce true tags, no more "lets pretend this copy > is > > a tag". > > I agree here - branches are great, but sometimes you want a 'snapshot' > or a 'baseline' that doesn't require a whole new directory in the repo > (especially as the number of branches you have increases,

RE: Subversion Vision and Roadmap Proposal

2010-04-09 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:13, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > P.S. Plase, introduce true tags, no more "lets pretend this copy is > a tag". > > What's a "true" tag? What's it good for? How would it behave? I'm not Vadim but... Basically an attribute added to a path at a certain revisions. I would

RE: Subversion Vision and Roadmap Proposal

2010-04-09 Thread Bob Archer
> The trick is to use the --stop-on-copy (to stop at branch point) > -v (to show patsh) options of the svn log command: > > $ svn log --stop-on-copy -v . > > r3 | stsp | 2010-04-09 22:25:24 +0100 (Fri, 09 Apr 2010) | 1 line >

RE: Changes in SQL backend design

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Archer
> I think it would be nice to store more repositories in one database, but > I find this way a bit confusing and without significant advantages (e.g. > it would be not clear which rows belong to which repository). Please don't do this unless it is an option. Each repository should be self contain

RE: I believe I have found a bug with 'svn mv' + ACL-protected files.

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Archer
> Per your Issue Tracker Guidelines, I am seeking somebody who agrees > that this is a bug before I submit it. > > Overview: For files, 'svn mv' does not properly inherit ACL > permissions from the parent directory. > > Steps to reproduce (from a subversion working directory): > 1. setfacl -d -m

RE: Possible security problem with svnsync?

2010-05-12 Thread Bob Archer
> I have a repository that is partially mirrored, using svnsync and > mod_authz_svn [1]. I just realised that the administrator of the > mirror server can bypass the authz rules I've set up on the master > server. All he has to do is change the svn:sync-from-url property > on the mirror repositor

RE: auto-upgrade of working copy

2010-07-01 Thread Bob Archer
> I have repeatedly heard similar complaints and would therefore > prefer > an explicit 'svn upgrade' upon 1.x to 1.y upgrades for working > copies > starting with 1.7. And I have never heard anyone asking for the > auto-upgrade > feature to be kept. > > The CLI client can print an error. GUI clie

RE: auto-upgrade of working copy

2010-07-01 Thread Bob Archer
> >> We are only ever going to hear the complaints.  That does not > mean > >> they speak for the majority of users. > > > > Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I'd expect people to write in > > out of the blue, asking for the feature to be kept. > > > > I meant to say that I cannot recall any user eve

RE: auto-upgrade of working copy

2010-07-01 Thread Bob Archer
> Most users don't like doing something more and most don't use > multiple > clients on a single working copy which is really where the > automation > bites you. That said, I wouldn't argue that making this change I agree with that. However, it isn't often that you will be upgrading from 1.x to 1

RE: Enable SVN_EXPERIMENTAL_PRISTINE and WC-format 17

2010-07-02 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 07:32, Julian Foad > wrote: > >... > > Now enabling it ... > > > > r959954: subversion/libsvn_wc/wc.h: Enable the pristine text > store: bump > > the WC format to 17 and define SVN_EXPERIMENTAL_PRISTINE. > > Awesome! Kudos to you and Philip for the heavy lifting on that!

RE: BUG: when performing a checkout use the cased url as in the download URL

2010-07-21 Thread Bob Archer
> On 22 July 2010 03:12, dave b wrote: > > On 22 July 2010 02:58, Bolstridge, Andrew > > wrote: > >>> -Original Message- > >>> excuse to say "we told you so". > >> > >> Considering Windows is case-insensitive, how do you expect to be > able to see folder FOO and foo inside folder bar? I

RE: Partial working copy relocation

2010-07-23 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 22:38, C. Michael Pilato > wrote: > > Over in another thread[1], a question was raised about the > behavior of 'svn > > switch --relocate' today.  Namely, if you run 'svn switch -- > relocate' on a > > subdirectory of a working copy (that is, *not* a "working copy > root"

RE: Proposal: Rename svnrdump

2010-07-26 Thread Bob Archer
> We used to be brutal against adding flags let alone separate > binaries, > so why are we so willing to add new binaries willy-nilly? To me, > as > an admin, it just makes *so* much sense that a remote dump feature > be > tied into "svnadmin dump". -- justin I agree this makes sense. You coul

RE: [PATCH] new feature, lazy sync via export --skipfilesmatchingsize

2010-07-27 Thread Bob Archer
> Yes, the new 1.7 feature sounds very promising. I was wondering > what > WC-NG stands for but I think I get the idea. Working Copy Next Generation BOb

RE: Requesting a New Feature

2010-07-28 Thread Bob Archer
> Quiet a lot of users have reported that they would like to have a > flag in svn update that allows them to update several sub > directories in one command > > (when using sparse checkout), > > for example: a command like this > > svn up a\b\c\d will bring folder d with its content, and its >

RE: Requesting a New Feature

2010-07-29 Thread Bob Archer
umed the request was to "pull in" a/b/c/d to a wc that > doesn't > > have it yet... in which case I have to assume the OP (Elango) > meant '--set-depth=empty'. > > > > (it's not an unreasonable feature idea IMO) > > > > Bob Archer wr

RE: Requesting a New Feature

2010-07-29 Thread Bob Archer
> On 29.07.2010 16:28, Bob Archer wrote: > >> Sorta kinda. Let's use our own tree as an example. We start > with > >> an empty checkout of the root of our project: > >> > >> $ svn co --depth empty > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion &

RE: Bikeshed: configuration override order

2010-08-06 Thread Bob Archer
> * Client site-wide configuration (/etc/subversion) > * Client user-specific configuration (~/subversion, 'svn --config- > dir') > * Repository-dictated configuration (as described above) > * Explicit configuration supplied by the client application >('svn --config-option', or Eclipse conf

RE: Bikeshed: configuration override order

2010-08-06 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Greg Hudson > wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 13:50 -0400, Hyrum K. Wright wrote: > >> I'm doing some more thinking about repository-dictated > configuration, > > > > I get nervous when I see people talk about repository-dictated > > configuration as an extension

RE: Bikeshed: configuration override order

2010-08-09 Thread Bob Archer
> Stefan Küng wrote on Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 12:59:26 +0200: > > On 07.08.2010 12:44, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > >> If corporations want to have configuration override, fine. > >> > >> But I want a way to disable that completely. I don't > necessarily want to > >> allow a random sourceforge repository

RE: Bikeshed: configuration override order

2010-08-10 Thread Bob Archer
> > Summary... > > > > There are two issues here... > > > > 1. The repo admin wants to enforce what is commited to their > repo. > This > > exists with scripts but common request can be made inherient repo > settings > > (probably need to be path based). > > > > The issue with pre-commit hooks is

RE: Bikeshed: configuration override order

2010-08-10 Thread Bob Archer
> On 08/07/2010 12:18 PM, Greg Hudson wrote: > > My thinking about repository configuration is that the uses cases > > should be divided into two categories: > > > > 1. Stuff that isn't really client configuration at all, like > > auto-props, should come from the repository instead, and should >

RE: Bikeshed: configuration override order

2010-08-11 Thread Bob Archer
> On 11.08.2010 11:05, Bolstridge, Andrew wrote: > > The second aspect: client-stored passwords, this isn't so much > about storing them on the client but about having different ones. > Enterprises want single-signon, ie, a single password, centrally > held, that is used for all apps. They don't re

RE: Two svn_wc__db_t for single-db upgrade

2010-08-27 Thread Bob Archer
> Back up a step. *What* data do you need to query? Maybe there is a > more > direct solution. > > I very much dislike a special mode for wc_db. It just screams > "hack". > > On Aug 27, 2010 10:07 AM, "Philip Martin" > > wrote: > > "Bert Huijben" writes: > > > >> I really think that it is much

RE: Two svn_wc__db_t for single-db upgrade

2010-08-27 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 05:54:38PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote: > > The trouble is, people often won't find out until some time after > > they've upgraded, especially if it's a WC they aren't working on > at the > > moment and they try to come back to work on it some weeks later. > And > > for most

RE: svn commit: r1022931 - in /subversion/trunk/subversion/libsvn_wc: status.c wc-queries.sql wc_db.c wc_db.h

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > > Author: philip > > Date: Fri Oct 15 14:19:36 2010 > > New Revision: 1022931 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1022931&view=rev > > Log: > > Implement status using per-dir queries.  On my machine (Linux, > local > > disk) this improves the

RE: svn commit: r1022931 - in /subversion/trunk/subversion/libsvn_wc: status.c wc-queries.sql wc_db.c wc_db.h

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Archer
> >> - cold cache: 1.7 is almost 50% faster than 1.6 > >> 1.7: 22s > >> 1.6: 42s > >> > >> - hot cache: 1.7 is just about on par with 1.6 (only 20% slower) > >> 1.7: 0.86s > >> 1.6: 0.72s > >> > > > > What do you guys mean by "cold cache" and "hot cache"? If they > mean what I think they mean, woul

RE: revised text for "svn help merge"

2010-10-29 Thread Bob Archer
> So the proposed help text below centers around the most common use > cases. Wow... this looks great. It will be nice to have this at the command line. I read through it all... only found one small nit: > If several commits to trunk were related to the fix, multiple > revisions > to

RE: Partially recursive revert when node kind changes

2011-02-10 Thread Bob Archer
> Suppose I have a directory tree: > > foo/ > bar/ > zig > > and I delete the tree foo/bar and replace it by a file foo/bar. > What > should "svn revert --depth=files foo" do? Should it revert > foo/bar? > How much of foo/bar should it restore? You have done the following: 1. De

RE: Partially recursive revert when node kind changes

2011-02-10 Thread Bob Archer
> Bob Archer writes: > > >> Suppose I have a directory tree: > >> > >> foo/ > >> bar/ > >> zig > >> > >> and I delete the tree foo/bar and replace it by a file foo/bar. > >> What > >> should

RE: Partially recursive revert when node kind changes

2011-02-10 Thread Bob Archer
> Bob Archer writes: > > >> Suppose I have a directory tree: > >> > >> foo/ > >> bar/ > >> zig > >> > >> and I delete the tree foo/bar and replace it by a file foo/bar. > >> What > >> should

RE: Requesting a New Feature

2011-02-10 Thread Bob Archer
> On 02/10/2011 12:34 PM, Julian Foad wrote: > > p.s. C-Mike, did I dream it, or did you implement something > similar > > just a few weeks ago? Maybe --parents for another subcommand? > > Wow. I mean ... just ... wow. > > /me cries. Is that a yea or nay? BOb

RE: svn commit: r1089856 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/tests/cmdline/switch_tests.py

2011-04-11 Thread Bob Archer
> "C. Michael Pilato" writes: > > > On 04/11/2011 05:53 AM, Philip Martin wrote: > >> "C. Michael Pilato" writes: > >> > >>> But we obviously have precedent for supporting committed copies > >>> of deeply switched things, so perhaps this isn't the best use > of our time > >>> right now. > >> > >

RE: [hackathon] Keysigning

2011-05-03 Thread Bob Archer
> C. Michael Pilato wrote on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 13:20:30 -0400: > > On 04/27/2011 02:42 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > to add other keys if you want) to > ^/subversion/site/keys/$username.asc . > > > > I wonder if we couldn't reduce data duplication by instead > recommending that > > committers u

RE: First 1.7.0 prerelease: June 1

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Archer
> Fire up your testing environments: they're going to get some use > over > the next couple of months. > > In an effort to release early and often, I'd like to cut the first > 1.7.0 pre-release on June 1. This will likely be a beta release, > since there are still blocking issues, but I hope to g

RE: strange error message

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Archer
> while working on issue #3887 I discovered an error message that > doesn't > sound right to me, but English is not my native language so I might > be > wrong: > > Source and destination URLs appear not to all point to the same > repository. Should it be: "Source and destination URLs do not all

RE: strange error message

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Archer
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:52 PM, C. Michael Pilato > wrote: > > On 05/18/2011 09:44 PM, Bob Archer wrote: > >>> while working on issue #3887 I discovered an error message that > >>> doesn't > >>> sound right to me, but English is not

RE: WC format bump imminent - renaming pristines to .pristine

2011-05-19 Thread Bob Archer
> On 05/19/2011 11:34 AM, Julian Foad wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 11:26 +0200, Julian Foad wrote: > >> A WC format bump is imminent, in order to rename the pristine > text > >> files from '' to '.pristine', as discussed in the > thread > >> 'Add ".svn-base" suffix to the pristine files in 1.7'

RE: large number of large binary files in subversion

2011-05-23 Thread Bob Archer
> I keep my personal photos and videos in Subversion. > Total repository size is currently 475 GB. There are > some large (1-4 GB) video files. Everything seems to > work fine. > > Some details: I'm still running Subversion 1.4.6 on the > server (FSFS, CentOS 5, x86_64). Running 1.6.16 > cmdlin

RE: large number of large binary files in subversion

2011-05-23 Thread Bob Archer
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Konstantin Kolinko > wrote: > > 2011/5/23 Mark Phippard : > >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Daniel Shahaf > wrote: > >>> Bob Archer wrote on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 13:54:59 -0400: > >>>> I can't imagine

RE: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-11 Thread Bob Archer
> If you want to fix Subversion merge there are two issues that have > to > be addressed. If you are not addressing these issues you are just > rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. > > 1. Cyclic merges (the reason we added --reintegrate). > > http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.c

RE: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Archer
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Mark Phippard > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Hyrum K Wright > wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Mark Phippard > wrote: > > Finally, in your new design do not

RE: [PROPOSAL] Create the 1.7.x branch. Like, now.

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Archer
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Hyrum K Wright > wrote: > > > Because I'm a nice guy (and to allow people time to comment), > I'll > > wait until tomorrow morning to create the branch, but plan on it > then. > > +1 Is that a +1 that Hyrum is a nice guy, or that he will wait, or that he shou

RE: Students' Project seeks help

2011-08-01 Thread Bob Archer
> Hi Everybody, > thanks for all the quick repsonses. I myself wasn't able to answer > until > now since we wanted to discuss things in our group. > > We plan to integrate this so that a compromised server does not > allow > the attacker to read data, even if he has got access to the > repositorie

RE: Anybody fancy another beta? (Or: "when's the first RC?")

2011-08-01 Thread Bob Archer
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Hyrum K Wright > wrote: > > All, > > 1.7.0-beta2 is out in the wild, and folks are testing it.  I know > > we're still fixing bug and STATUS is still a bit active, but how > do > > folks feel about starting the release candidate train?  Or, if > you're > > uncomf

RE: support to abort update in case of conflict

2011-08-09 Thread Bob Archer
> I would like to propose to add a way to abort updates in case of an conflict. > This could be done by adding e.g. an abort command to the interactive > conflict resolution. This should transform the working copy to the situation > before the update that resulted in an conflict happend. > > The r

RE: support to abort update in case of conflict

2011-08-09 Thread Bob Archer
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 03:55:00PM -0400, Bob Archer wrote: > > > I would like to propose to add a way to abort updates in case of an > conflict. > > > This could be done by adding e.g. an abort command to the > > > interactive conflict resolution. This should tr

RE: rc1 is DOA. What now? (was: 1.7.0-rc1 up for testing / signing)

2011-08-23 Thread Bob Archer
> On 08/23/2011 08:17 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: > >> +1 to release as 1.7.0-RC1 as all tests pass for me. -0 to release as > >> Subversion 1.7.0 > > > > Ok, make that a -1 to release as Subversion 1.7.0 > > > > Subversion working copies that contain 'svn lock'-style locks can't be > > upgraded by our

RE: rc1 is DOA. What now? (was: 1.7.0-rc1 up for testing / signing)

2011-08-23 Thread Bob Archer
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Bob Archer > wrote: > >> On 08/23/2011 08:17 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: > >> >> +1 to release as 1.7.0-RC1 as all tests pass for me. -0 to release > >> >> +as > >> >> Subversion 1.7.0 >

RE: SQL indices a WC format bump and 1.7

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Archer
> Mark Phippard wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 12:02:02 -0400: > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Philip Martin > > wrote: > > > Hyrum K Wright writes: > > > > > >>   sqlite> select * from sqlite_master where type = 'index' and > > >> tbl_name = 'WCROOT'; > > >>   index|sqlite_autoindex_WCROOT_1

RE: now with more agressive elision (was: [PATCH] svn mergeinfo --elide)

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Archer
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 03:43:36AM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > It seems that the elision algorithm is very basic at the moment, which > > prevents this from being really useful. Subversion only elides > > mergeinfo which exactly matches the mergeinfo of a parent. > > It doesn't perform elis

RE: Document the unsubscription method, please?

2011-10-27 Thread Bob Archer
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Mark Phippard > wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > I subscribed before the the mechabics of the dev list changed, nd now can't > figure out how to unsubscribe. the page at > >      http://subversion.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

RE: Update that pulls a null delta

2012-10-12 Thread Bob Archer
> -Original Message- > From: C. Michael Pilato [mailto:cmpil...@collab.net] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:03 PM > To: Daniel Shahaf > Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: Update that pulls a null delta > > On 10/12/2012 10:05 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > If an update pulls i

RE: man pages for Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Bob Archer
> On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:21:23 +0300 > Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > > 1. Get the sources for 1.9 > > > 2. Examine svn_cl__cmd_table > > > 3. Prepare a doc build tree that creates two things: > > > a. man pages > > > b. plain text for --help, one file per subcommand > > > > > > The pla

RE: SVN update of child ignores files if preceded by update --depth immediates

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Archer
You should be able to update from any path. I'm not sure if they can run "concurrently" though. svn [PATH...] BOb From: Mihai Danila [mailto:virid...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:13 PM To: Philip Martin Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org Subject: Re: SVN update of child ignores