Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-19 Thread QUINTIN Guillaume
Hi, It was a long time ago. I just loooked at the code. I think it should work with a few changes. I do not use these layouts anymore. I first began with wmii, then dwm. I, of course, missed the wmii ``capabilities so I wrote dwmii.c. But, with time, I realized that moving the windows from column

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-18 Thread dtk
On 01/08/2012 10:30 AM, John Matthewman wrote: I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for configuration via python, ruby, etc. use dwm as a base to build upon +1 I imagine having a stacked layout + manual

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread John Matthewman
On 1/8/12, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Someone could implement a stacked mode patch for dwm based on two extra windows (similar to the dwm bar) per column -- wouldn't be too hard. I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window management, but without the 9P

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 January 2012 10:30, John Matthewman jmatthew...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/8/12, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Someone could implement a stacked mode patch for dwm based on two extra windows (similar to the dwm bar) per column -- wouldn't be too hard. I would like a window manager

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Sun 08 Jan 2012 04:30:47 PM PST, John Matthewman wrote: I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for configuration via python, ruby, etc. Try i3, which was inspired by wmii: http://i3wm.org/ -- If something has

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread Thomas Dahms
2012/1/8 John Matthewman jmatthew...@gmail.com: I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for configuration via python, ruby, etc. Trim the fat off of it (or perhaps it would be better to use dwm as a base to build

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread John Matthewman
On 1/9/12, Thomas Dahms thmsd...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/1/8 John Matthewman jmatthew...@gmail.com: I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for configuration via python, ruby, etc. Trim the fat off of it (or

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann fim 5.jan 2012 23:12, skrifaði Connor Lane Smith: That's not inherent to GUIs, it just so happens that existing GUIs are extremely poorly made. It's not interaction which needs to be logged so much as the modification of persistent data -- files and such -- which could easily be logged by

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 7 January 2012 17:26, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com wrote: That's not enough. I want the output of all commands (messages, documents, calculations, notes and error reports) to be stored on increasingly mainstream terabyte disks along with enough metadata to uniquely identify it.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:50:06PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: So long as you have the input state for those commands -- the files themselves -- why must we log the output for each and every command? Error correction. If we know the state of the directory, why log invocations of `ls`? ls

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 7 January 2012 20:21, de...@gmx.de wrote: But for me, wmii's window managing is far better than dwm's one. I tried dwm for eight weeks. Now back to wmii. I like the stagged mode at most. I like window titles. I like columns. Someone could implement a stacked mode patch for dwm based on two

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-05 Thread David Tweed
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Patrick Haller 201009-suckl...@haller.ws wrote: On 2012-01-01 21:13, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: So I considered the trade-offs between SLOC minimalism, project and community activity, and my productivity in DWM vs. WMII and finally decided to switch back to WMII

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-05 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 5 January 2012 14:19, David Tweed david.tw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not aware of any way of either storing or, more importantly, searching a user's interaction with the GUI apps on a computer system. That's not inherent to GUIs, it just so happens that existing GUIs are extremely poorly

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:12:44PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: That's not inherent to GUIs, it just so happens that existing GUIs are extremely poorly made. It's not interaction which needs to be logged so much as the modification of persistent data -- files and such -- which could easily

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-02 Thread hiro
I don't understand how this is related to your quote? You always execute ls when you cd to a different folder? On 02.01.2012, Patrick Haller 201009-suckl...@haller.ws wrote: On 2012-01-01 21:13, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: So I considered the trade-offs between SLOC minimalism, project and

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-02 Thread Patrick Haller
On 2012-01-02 12:26, hiro wrote: I don't understand how this is related to your quote? Suraj re-evaluated his toolset. I think the re-evaluation part is a good idea, however it seems you could spend too much time doing it. You always execute ls when you cd to a different folder? in

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-02 Thread hiro
You can also use du instead of cd;ls Overloading simple, old, standard commands is bad for my inflexible brain. The X11 stuff is way too difficult for me to care.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-01 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:13:04 PM PST, dtk wrote: On 12/22/2011 05:54 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: I'm another WMII expatriate and I'm still not completely used to DWM's lack of on-the-fly tag creation: especially when some new random task comes up and all of my tags are currently occupied.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-01 Thread David Kowis
On 01/01/2012 11:13 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: Good point. After seeing people take SLOC minimalism further than the suckless community's beloved DWM (c.f. MonsterWM), I realized that it all came down to *choice* and that I actually had a choice. So I considered the trade-offs between

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-01 Thread Patrick Haller
On 2012-01-01 21:13, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: So I considered the trade-offs between SLOC minimalism, project and community activity, and my productivity in DWM vs. WMII and finally decided to switch back to WMII (which I used since six years prior). How often do people re-evaluate their

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread dtk
Hey cls, On 12/22/2011 04:57 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 22 December 2011 16:36, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: nope, 32 is aplenty. Thing is, in wmii I create them on demand and name them dynamically (to reflect their purpose), which conveniently groups them as well. I just don't want the tag I

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-24 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 05:32 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? I gave up on this approach for DWM and used dzen2 as my status bar instead:

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 24 December 2011 12:08, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: So, what's the policy here? All future development in patches, so we don't spoil that fancy 2K SLOC statistic everybody is so fond of? :/ *sceptic* Hah. :) We fold in popular patches, slowly, so dwm doesn't become all bloated and unstable. My

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 12/24/11, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: I'm not sure a screenshot is necessary. It would just be a fullscreen window. :p If you hide the status bar it's honestly *just* the window. And a border, telling you whether it is focused or not (assuming a non-zero borderpx).

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Jakub Lach
Dnia 22 grudnia 2011 16:53 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com napisał(a): The claim is that when this people finish rewriting dwm then go write their e-mails in Gnome 3? -- That's certainly possible, given compulsive behaviour of tweaking tweaks. They work day to day in Gnome, then

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread hiro
I kill dwm when I've placed all my windows correctly so I can save more RAM. Everyone who wants more functionality than just placing his windows in a perfect way once and for all is stupid. On 23.12.2011, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: Dnia 22 grudnia 2011 16:53 Manolo Martínez

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Jakub Lach
Dnia 23 grudnia 2011 11:34 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com napisał(a): I kill dwm when I've placed all my windows correctly so I can save more RAM. Everyone who wants more functionality than just placing his windows in a perfect way once and for all is stupid. Words of wisdom! For ultimate RAM

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:34:35 -, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: I kill dwm when I've placed all my windows correctly so I can save more RAM. I actually did that the other day, so I could GIMP my Christmas cards.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Fri 23 Dec 2011 10:24:54 AM PST, Jakub Lach wrote: They work day to day in Gnome, then try to emulate it's insanity in currently acceptable flavour of the month wm, then brag on their home forum with screenshots (arch forum anyone?), seeking peer approval. Touché! s/Gnome/wmii/ and

[dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
Hey guys, is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? I know it's a question of philosophy whether you'll want that (and will therefore inevitably spawn holy flame wars ;)), but I just saw it yesterday in awesome[0] and think it was a pretty neat

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread hiro
What are widgets?

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:54 -, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? s/(image|symbol)/glyph/g Modify your font. There are patches either on the website or on the Archlinux Forums that modify dwm to use more

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 11/15/2011 06:59 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: On Thu 10 Nov 2011 09:29:53 PM PST, Anselm R Garbe wrote: wmii is cursed. Its code base has grown by factor 3 or 4 in terms of SLOC, whereas its functionality has stalled. Thanks Anselm. I think I've held on to the past for too long, and

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 02:49 PM, hiro wrote: What are widgets? Encapsulated, reusable functionality that displays information in the status bar. Whole onmouseover thing and such... dtk

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 22 December 2011 15:35, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: I tag clients according to the topic they deal with (yess, I have *several* Firefox windows open on different tags at any given point in time -.-), which is why static tagging with a predefined number of tags works really really bad for

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 22 December 2011 14:44, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: I just saw it yesterday in awesome[0] and think it was a pretty neat feature to display information in a compact yet intuitive way. The general consensus is that sprinkling icons everywhere actually makes the interface far more

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Florian Limberger
Hello, The general consensus is that sprinkling icons everywhere actually makes the interface far more complicated and distracting, and generally quite *bad*. While there *are* some exceptions where icons are more compact, they are rare. Consider the meter widgets people are obsessed with

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
Hey, thx for your quick response! On 12/22/2011 03:49 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 22 December 2011 15:35, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: I tag clients according to the topic they deal with (yess, I have *several* Firefox windows open on different tags at any given point in time -.-), which is

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Justin Pogue
Sidestepping the holy-war topic here, I'd like to point out that there are plenty of status bars out there like tint2 and dzen2 that you could use. I've even heard of people using DWM in conjunction with xfce-panel. A patch to add the same functionality that one of these examples already does

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Florian Limberger
I just looked at the screenshot linked by the OP, and thats indeed wrong usage of icons, IMHO. I argued againts the wifi signal example, not for replacing descriptive names of applications with crappy logos without any expressivenes. How the fuck can a wolf represent an audio application? At

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread hiro
lol, people on suckless don't actually use their window managers, they brag about it and rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it. It's more of a hobby than a necessity for them.

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 04:27 PM, Florian Limberger wrote: The general consensus is that sprinkling icons everywhere actually makes the interface far more complicated and distracting, and generally quite *bad*. While there *are* some exceptions where icons are more compact, they are rare. Yupp. Don't

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 12/22/11 at 04:47pm, hiro wrote: lol, people on suckless don't actually use their window managers, they brag about it and rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it. It's more of a hobby than a necessity for them. The claim is that when this people finish rewriting dwm then go write their

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 04:38 PM, Justin Pogue wrote: Sidestepping the holy-war topic here, I'd like to point out that there are plenty of status bars out there like tint2 and dzen2 that you could use. k. Was just reluctant to integrate it. Redirecting all the information there. wmii's status bar

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
Somebody claiming to be dtk wrote: This is why dwm has tags: just don't view the tags you aren't using. Like you say, tag clients according to their role, and then by definition those which are not being used needn't be seen. However, you may be interested in flextile [1]. wouldn't be used to

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 22 December 2011 16:36, dtk d...@gmx.de wrote: nope, 32 is aplenty. Thing is, in wmii I create them on demand and name them dynamically (to reflect their purpose), which conveniently groups them as well. I just don't want the tag I do development of project A on to be on tag 5. Today. And

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? I gave up on this approach for DWM and used dzen2 as my status bar instead: https://github.com/sunaku/.dwm/blob/master/dwm-statusbar (Pictured at bottom of

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 04:36:55 PM PST, dtk wrote: I just cannot see how to do the stuff I feel I need with static layouts. And since I don't believe that manual layouts are what bloat wmii, I fail to understand why I cannot haz them :/ Worse, I fail to see why I'm the only one who wants them

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 04:57:24 PM PST, Connor Lane Smith wrote: In dwm you can view multiple tags at the same time, which pulls all clients with that tag into view. (Which is really amazing once you get used to it. Other window managers just make me feel really constrained.) Now that you mention

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 22 December 2011 18:02, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: In contrast, WMII has fine-grained multi-tagging (a client can appear on multiple views) so I would either (1) choose a client from dmenu to pull into my current view or (2) go to the tag I want and multi-tag the clients that

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 06:07:05 PM PST, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 22 December 2011 18:02, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: Multi-tagging is cool and useful, but too coarse grained in DWM. I don't understand what you mean. In dwm a single client can have multiple tags, and one can also view multiple

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Jacob Todd
On Dec 22, 2011 12:03 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: Now that you mention it, I rarely use this feature because it's too coarse grained. For instance, I have tags pre-allocated for particular tasks so viewing more than one of them simultaneously pulls in too many unrelated

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:05:36 PM PST, Jacob Todd wrote: On Dec 22, 2011 12:03 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: Now that you mention it, I rarely use this feature because it's too coarse grained. For instance, I have tags pre-allocated for particular tasks so viewing more than

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Seth Hover
Is there a reason you're not just using awesome? -sth On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? I gave up on this

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Seth Hover
whoops, I missed the [wmii] tag. Please ignore my last post. --sth On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Seth Hover seth.ho...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a reason you're not just using awesome? -sth On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu 22 Dec 2011

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 11:54:21 AM PST, Seth Hover wrote: Is there a reason you're not just using awesome? Subjectively, I like C and Ruby better than Lua. Architecturally, I like that DWM is minimal, having a very limited statusbar, because I can use a better tool for the job (dzen2) or even go

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Florian Limberger wrote: then how do you distinguish the percentage of battery load and the percentage of wifi signal strength? Sometimes, I don't care if wifi signal quality is exactly 87% or 78%, It would suffice if I knew if it is over 25%, 50%

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Florian Limberger
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:34:12 -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: A one-letter prefix doesn't help you? b50% s70%? I don't even do that much. I used to just have it read, e.g., 50% 70% and I used my amazing pattern-recognition skills to discern that the battery life was mysteriously always first in

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 02:52:28AM +0100, Florian Limberger wrote: I know what you are displaying, I use a slightly modified version of the status.sh script you posted once. Thanks though. That script in its current incarnation is about 1/10th the size it was when I posted it. I know you

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-20 Thread Jonas H.
On 11/14/2011 11:34 PM, Justin Pogue wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Jonas H.jo...@lophus.org wrote: Hi folks! Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 in floating mode and

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-15 Thread Thomas Dahms
2011/11/14 Jonas H. jo...@lophus.org: Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 in floating mode and then move it to the tiling layer, it stays on monitor 1.  (The way it works for my

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-15 Thread Jonas H.
On 11/15/2011 09:32 AM, Thomas Dahms wrote: wmii spans the tiling area over all monitors, but managed columns end at screen boundaries. What's that Xinerama support that came with 3.9 then?

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-15 Thread Thomas Dahms
2011/11/15 Jonas H. jo...@lophus.org: What's that Xinerama support that came with 3.9 then? It is Xinerama. One view just includes both monitors. That is different from dwm and other window managers, but not necessarily worse. -- Thomas Dahms

[dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-14 Thread Jonas H.
Hi folks! Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 in floating mode and then move it to the tiling layer, it stays on monitor 1. (The way it works for my setup right now is that it's

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-14 Thread Justin Pogue
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Jonas H. jo...@lophus.org wrote: Hi folks! Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 in floating mode and then move it to the tiling layer, it stays on

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-11-14 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 10 Nov 2011 09:29:53 PM PST, Anselm R Garbe wrote: wmii is cursed. Its code base has grown by factor 3 or 4 in terms of SLOC, whereas its functionality has stalled. Thanks Anselm. I think I've held on to the past for too long, and avoided DWM mainly out of disinterest in C. However,

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-11 Thread David Tweed
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: On 08/11/2011, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; has this changed?  If so, why? Appreciative, not necessarily enthusiastic. Plan 9 technologies

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-11 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On 11 Nov 2011 04:30, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 November 2011 07:28, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: And how is modern wmii different from its, let's say, pre-modern phase? From my view, it still uses the Plan9 protocol and the Plan9 approach of exposing a

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-11 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:36 AM, David Tweed david.tw...@gmail.com wrote: My view is that the plan 9 technologies are attractive if and only if they're used everywhere: if a pseudo-filesystem interface was pervasive it would avoid the learn another new language/technology tricks/etc for this

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-10 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 November 2011 07:28, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu 03 Nov 2011 09:57:19 AM PDT, Kurt H Maier wrote: There is nothing suckless about any aspect of modern wmii I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; has this changed?  If so, why? The

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-08 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 08/11/2011, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; has this changed? If so, why? Appreciative, not necessarily enthusiastic. Plan 9 technologies have their place, but it's very tempting to use them everywhere. I

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-07 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, because this *specific* configuration - and NOT wmii itself - requires ruby. Alright. No, I

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-07 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 03 Nov 2011 09:57:19 AM PDT, Kurt H Maier wrote: There is nothing suckless about any aspect of modern wmii I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; has this changed? If so, why? And how is modern wmii different from its, let's say, pre-modern phase? From my

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-07 Thread Hadrian Węgrzynowski
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:28:59 -0800 Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu 03 Nov 2011 09:57:19 AM PDT, Kurt H Maier wrote: There is nothing suckless about any aspect of modern wmii I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; has this changed? If so, why? And

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: what does that even mean? wmii *requires* ruby? Never heard of that. This configuration requires ruby. Try to keep up. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: what does that even mean? wmii *requires* ruby? Never heard of that. This configuration requires ruby. Try to keep up. hm. I see. So your

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, because this *specific* configuration - and NOT wmii itself - requires ruby. Alright. No, I want to disown wmii because it's a bloated 30ksloc monstrosity that engenders

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread hiro
Yeah, and C engendered Java. Just use your own configuration if you don't like it. And an older version of wmii if you don't like change.

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Andrew Hills
I think you misunderstand. While he may wish that no user again uses wmii, that is not what he has stated here. His stated wish is wmii's removal from suckless.org because it does not meet suckless standards. --Andrew Hills

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 3 November 2011 02:23, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii?  This is a four-hundred line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention an entire extra programming language. To manage x11 windows. I'm in the process arranging

[dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
Hello, For those who were weary of my Ruby wmiirc[1]'s power consumption, I am happy to announce that the latest Ruby 1.9.3-p0 stable release has solved Ruby's problem of causing excessive CPU wakeups-from-idle which would drain your laptop battery much sooner than you'd expect. On my ASUS

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Kurt H Maier
Anselm, Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii? This is a four-hundred line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention an entire extra programming language. To manage x11 windows. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Brad Ediger
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, For those who were weary of my Ruby wmiirc[1]'s power consumption, I am happy to announce that the latest Ruby 1.9.3-p0 stable release has solved Ruby's problem of causing excessive CPU wakeups-from-idle Indeed

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: Anselm, Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii? This is a four-hundred line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention an entire extra programming language. To manage x11 windows. what does

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-09-01 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann mið 31.ágú 2011 23:36, skrifaði Benjamin Cathey: I recently added a few new key combinations and I am having issues and I am not quite sure why. I am attempting to use the number keys in the numeric keypad and it simply is not working. The combinations work with the regular number keys

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-09-01 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Okay so then they are apparently different, regardless of the keycode give by `xev` That's fine - however what would I use in my wmiirc to define the difference? Would it be: Key $MODKEY-Control-KP0 ? --- Actually it looks like it would be $MODKEY-Control-KP_0 Thanks for your help! B

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-09-01 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann fim 1.sep 2011 17:42, skrifaði Benjamin Cathey: Okay so then they are apparently different, regardless of the keycode give by `xev` I ran xev on my system, and it reported different keycodes and keysyms, but equivalent XLookupString results. I don't speak wmiirc, but I'm happy if I was

[dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-08-31 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Sorry if this is a repost - I had mail client fail so I am not sure if the send completed. I recently added a few new key combinations and I am having issues and I am not quite sure why. I am attempting to use the number keys in the numeric keypad and it simply is not working. The

[dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-08-31 Thread Benjamin Cathey
I recently added a few new key combinations and I am having issues and I am not quite sure why. I am attempting to use the number keys in the numeric keypad and it simply is not working. The combinations work with the regular number keys however not with those on the keypad. Using xev it

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-08-31 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Looks like this did send twice. Also I accidentally included $MODKEY-Control-l which does work. It's the numbers that do not work (only the numeric pad) as I mentioned Thanks again Benjamin On 08/31/2011 07:36 PM, Benjamin Cathey wrote: I recently added a few new key combinations and I am

[dev] [wmii] modkey-2 misbehaving on dvorak keyboard after a change in wmiirc_local

2011-08-26 Thread Mr. Bougs
Hello, I'm running wmii's hg tip (rev 2788). I just experienced a strange behaviour with the specific shortcut $MODKEY-2 after switching from the be (azerty) to the us dvorak-intl xkb layout. When using that shortcut, the current window seems to lose focus (the title bar stays highlighted).

Re: [dev] [wmii] modkey-2 misbehaving on dvorak keyboard after a change in wmiirc_local

2011-08-26 Thread Andrew Hills
twosuperior isn't a key on US keyboards, and pressing Alt-2 injects it in many applications. It is possible that it is confusing Alt-2 with your literal twosuperior. Just a thought--I'm not an expert. --Andrew Hills On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Mr. Bougs mrbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello,

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-24 Thread Gidon Ernst
On 08/24/2011 01:20 AM, orlando wrote: All you have to do is rename Delete to Close and close should appear at the top of the menu. Thank you, that did it.

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-23 Thread orlando
All you have to do is rename Delete to Close and close should appear at the top of the menu. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Gidon Ernst er...@informatik.uni-augsburg.de wrote: Hi, recently the order of items [Delete, Kill, Fullscreen] in the menu that appears when right-clicking on

Re: [dev] [wmii] Flash in fullscreen regularly freezes screen

2011-08-11 Thread dtk
On 05.08.2011 16:24, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:39:23 +0200 Eckehard Berns ecki-suckl...@ecki.to wrote: I also have encountered freezes with fullscreen flash video playback (I haven't tested something other than youtube). I noticed that I didn't encounter those freezes

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-10 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:15:51 +0200 Gidon Ernst er...@informatik.uni-augsburg.de wrote: Hi, recently the order of items [Delete, Kill, Fullscreen] in the menu that appears when right-clicking on a window's titlebar changed to [Kill, Delete, Fullscreen] Oh this old thing. dwm

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 10 August 2011 23:10, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: Oh this old thing. dwm could use an fwvm-style Close which sends a delete if the window supports it, otherwise sends a kill, thus hiding a particularly ugly part of X. It does. s/dwm/wmii/ ? cls

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-10 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Wed 10 Aug 2011 11:24:54 PM PDT, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 10 August 2011 23:10, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: dwm could use an fwvm-style Close which sends a delete if the window supports it, otherwise sends a kill, thus hiding a particularly ugly part of X. It does. s/dwm/wmii/ ?

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-10 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:24:54 +0100 Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: On 10 August 2011 23:10, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: Oh this old thing. dwm could use an fwvm-style Close which sends a delete if the window supports it, otherwise sends a kill, thus hiding a

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-10 Thread Bryan Bennett
Oh this old thing. dwm could use an fwvm-style Close which sends a delete if the window supports it, otherwise sends a kill, thus hiding a particularly ugly part of X. Maybe so, but I fail to see how this relates to the question asked. Which one of us is particularly dense this time 'round?

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