Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2016-11-28 Thread Mike Hoye
On 2016-11-28 9:32 PM, edunl...@gmail.com wrote: My Firefox Thunderbird will not open correctly because it wants XUL Runner to be 45.5.0. Can you help me? Unfortunately, XULRunner hasn't been under active development since mid-2015, and was never officially supported. I suggest

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2016-11-28 Thread edunlap2
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-5, Mike Hommey wrote: > Hi, > > Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test > it on automation, and the result is that it is often broken for long > periods of time. > > I propose that we just stop pretending, and

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2016-11-28 Thread edunlap2
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-5, Mike Hommey wrote: > Hi, > > Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test > it on automation, and the result is that it is often broken for long > periods of time. > > I propose that we just stop pretending, and

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-21 Thread Till Schneidereit
Hi Gio, please read the previous messages in this thread: they contain answers to all these questions. In fact, they're pretty much all answered right in the first message[1]. [1]: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/o99wQZBjIJw/4eBoWbjEzjAJ On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:02 AM,

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-20 Thread gioyik
Hi, I have some questions, and would be nice if someone could answer. I will really appreciate. * Mozilla will not provide more Xulrunner builds (runtime)? * If not, developers will be able to compile Xulrunner builds from Mozilla code? * Will Mozilla continues the Xulrunner development? * What

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-16 Thread WaltS
On 01/12/2014 07:34 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: Hi, Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test it on automation, and the result is that it is often broken for long periods of time. I propose that we just stop pretending, and terminate xulrunner, considering the

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-16 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
Having proper support for multi-profile is great, by opposition to the current hidden on the command line support, but I believe that this discussion deserves its own thread (and its own bug). Cheers, David On 1/16/14 4:13 PM, WaltS wrote: User thoughts. You can close this bug as WONTFIX,

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-15 Thread Philipp Wagner
Hi, Am 13.01.2014 01:34, Mike Hommey wrote: Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test it on automation, and the result is that it is often broken for long periods of time. I propose that we just stop pretending, and terminate xulrunner, considering the

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-15 Thread Philipp Wagner
Am 15.01.2014 23:08, Marcio Galli wrote: Something to check, that resides between engineering and legal, is how easy it will be for a third-party to ship the Firefox code (with the --app). While I understand that no UI is to be shown, I believe that we need to check legal aspects regarding

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread ajvincent
Wow. All this just as I'm trying to get XULRunner repaired and stabilized for good with automated tests. I put a lot of effort into reviving the damn thing, and I'm close to getting it working again on the Mac. (More to the point, I'm obsessed with getting it working on the Mac again - and I

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:55:03AM -0800, ajvinc...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. All this just as I'm trying to get XULRunner repaired and stabilized for good with automated tests. I put a lot of effort into reviving the damn thing, and I'm close to getting it working again on the Mac. (More to

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread Mark Finkle
- Original Message - I don't know. Maybe building an SDK based on Firefox is the right thing; honestly, I just want something that works. But I put a lot of effort into this over the last two years. FWIW, I packaged xulrunner in Debian in 2006 and have been maintaining it since

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread mkaply
I have a couple concerns. 1. It makes it much more difficult to ship a site specific browser that can be installed alongside Firefox (especially if that browser might need to be different than the installed Firefox, like based on the ESR). It would seem that the best method would be to take a

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread Alex Vincent
Guys, I get it. I'm not happy about it, especially having wasted a lot of the last two years on it, but I get it. One day, the beast cast its eye on its unruly cousin, and lost his patience. Many fine people tried to spare the cousin, but the beast swallowed its cousin whole. Its belch was

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread mkaply
One more thought. How will updating work? If you are running an app with application.ini, it's not going to get it's updates through the Firefox update service, even though you have Firefox installed. So you'll have to somehow rebundle Firefox with your application and send that as an

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 1/14/2014 2:30 PM, mka...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:06:19 PM UTC-6, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: Or do a repack to remove the Firefox-specific files from a Firefox install. Certainly without branding issues it's not a problem anyway, right? So in my testing, this worked

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread mkaply
On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:40:13 PM UTC-6, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: On 1/14/2014 2:30 PM, mka...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:06:19 PM UTC-6, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: If we could solve the stub problem, I don't see why this can't be a perfect replacement for

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread ajvincent
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:34:54 PM UTC-8, Mike Hommey wrote: - We could include the xulrunner and xulrunner-stub executables as part of firefox. xulrunner-stub is small and self-contained, and xulrunner could be replaced by something that calls firefox -app. Or we could make the

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-14 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 1/14/2014 3:17 PM, ajvinc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to get a clarified list of requirements for the Firefox SDK: * Will we support a stub executable? If somebody writes a patch to include a stub executable in the SDK, I will accept that patch. If you include automated tests for it, I'll

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-13 Thread Neil
Mike Hommey wrote: I propose that we just stop pretending, and terminate xulrunner How would this affect the ability to build Firefox against the sdk? -- Warning: May contain traces of nuts. ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Stransky
Well, Fedora is going to ship standalone Firefox instead of the FF+XL combo and retire the xulrunner package. ma. On 01/13/2014 01:34 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: Hi, Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test it on automation, and the result is that it is often broken

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-13 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 1/12/2014 7:34 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: Hi, I propose that we just stop pretending, and terminate xulrunner, considering the following: This has in fact been the plan for a while now. The only reason we continue to do any regular XULRunner builds at all is because we do need to publish an

Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-12 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test it on automation, and the result is that it is often broken for long periods of time. I propose that we just stop pretending, and terminate xulrunner, considering the following: - Xulrunner is lagging behind Firefox: DLL

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-12 Thread Simon Kornblith
As a XULRunner app developer, as long as firefox -app application.ini continues to work I think I could learn to live with this. On Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:34:54 PM UTC-5, Mike Hommey wrote: Hi, Let's face it: xulrunner is hardly maintained, we barely build and test it on

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-12 Thread Mark Finkle
Your proposal sounds somewhat similar to the way the webapprt is being delivered too. I think that's a good thing. - Original Message - I propose that we just stop pretending, and terminate xulrunner, considering the following: - Xulrunner is lagging behind Firefox: DLL block list,

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

2014-01-12 Thread Dave Townsend
I sadly agree. While I still think there is value in XULRunner existing as a standalone runtime I don't think it is worth taking any time away from other work and it would be better to stand up and declare it dead instead of pretending like it is going to be around long-term. On Sun, Jan 12,