Re: alternatives to desktop/Android web runtimes

2016-03-02 Thread Myk Melez
Adrian Aichner 2016 March 2 at 12:13 The use case I need to get working is when I need to restart the browser or the device while offline. How do I get to my progressive web app while still offline? It could function perfectly well, as in the case when I go off

Re: alternatives to desktop/Android web runtimes

2016-03-02 Thread Myk Melez
Benjamin Francis 2016 February 23 at 07:24 Sorry for being late to this thread but I just wanted to speak in support of "Progressive Web Apps" and to highlight the difference between web apps and apps which are built using web technologies. No worries, I'm glad to

Re: alternatives to desktop/Android web runtimes

2016-01-29 Thread Myk Melez
Joshua Smith 2016 January 29 at 06:12 Our customers want “an application”. It’s largely a perception thing, tbqh. It’s okay that it’s actually a browser under the covers, as long as you can’t tell there is a browser under the covers. The must-have features for

Re: alternatives to desktop/Android web runtimes

2016-01-28 Thread Myk Melez
mrjoshuaesm...@gmail.com 2016 January 27 at 07:00 On your suggestion, I looked at Electron. I hate the idea of deploying a 100MB+ web browser when the user already has one (probably 3). Plus, that puts me in the position of keeping that browser component up to

alternatives to desktop/Android web runtimes

2016-01-26 Thread Myk Melez
Over in this firefox-dev thread , I decided to disable the desktop and Android web runtimes (WebRT) for Open Web Apps . After they're disabled, what

Re: Privileged (packaged) apps on Firefox desktop?

2014-07-30 Thread Myk Melez
Andrew Sutherland 2014 July 29 at 18:35 Being an IMAP-supporting email app requires being a privileged app. It seems like it's not currently possible to easily install privileged apps that are under development on Firefox desktop. Is there a way to accompli

Re: Having trouble building with mozilla-apk-cli

2014-07-03 Thread Myk Melez
Spencer Killen 2014 June 27 at 14:05 I'm trying to build a packaged app with mozilla-apk-cli but when I try it tells me I need to install unzip and zip from Info-zip. But the Info-zip site is beyond dated and the .msi I ran from there doesn't appear to have done

Re: make a Firefox OS webapp work in Android

2014-05-04 Thread Myk Melez
remi.ducces...@gmail.com 2014 May 4 at 10:13 So, I don't know what it was, where it came from and why it happened, but it seems everything is alright now :D Thanks for trying to reproduce the problem! I'm glad everything is now working, and please let us know if

Re: make a Firefox OS webapp work in Android

2014-04-30 Thread Myk Melez
remi.ducces...@gmail.com 2014 April 30 at 15:54 Actually, I was on FireFox nightly... I just removed it and installed Firefox 29 (stable), uninstalled my app and reinstalled it, and it works! Great news! can't say what was wrong... I'll try to reinstall nightly

Re: make a Firefox OS webapp work in Android

2014-04-30 Thread Myk Melez
remi.ducces...@gmail.com 2014 April 28 at 19:26 However, when installing the packaged app in Android, I just get a white screen after the application launched. It seems that a few validated applications on the marketplace suffer the same problem. There are many

Re: Adding a 'short_name' to the manifest

2014-04-25 Thread Myk Melez
Bill Walker wrote: I think adding a short_name field makes sense. For sure the manifest needs to be the source of truth about app names. We'll also need to think about what happens when we install these apps on Android and Windows, I'm not sure if other OS'es support long and short app names;

Re: Testing a Firefox app on the desktop

2014-03-25 Thread Myk Melez
Raymond Camden 2014 March 24 at 14:26 And now - all of a sudden - it has my latest code. I did window.location.reload() in the console - did that force it? I'm unsure, but it's plausible! If not - how would the average user see my latest bits for a hosted app?

Re: Can't download files on desktop apps

2014-01-29 Thread Myk Melez
tucker.mckni...@gmail.com 2014 January 28 at 14:42 I've found that I can't download files from within apps when I'm using WebRT on Mac OSX. When apps allow you to save or export some kind of file, like a PDF, it ends up being empty (zero bytes). At first I as

Re: WebRT Desktop Status - Monday, May 14

2013-10-21 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/10/21 14:47, InspireMe wrote: Hello Myk, Is there any Production release date for Desktop WebRT project. The desktop runtime is already in product, as it was released late last year, when it shipped with Firefox. However, Mozilla has not promoted it, so few folks know about it, few dev

Re: FirefoxOS Qs: app manifest and screen resolutions

2013-09-30 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/09/30 16:03, Myk Melez wrote: //path/to/Firefox/profile//extensions/fxos_1_2_simula...@mozilla.org/resources/fxos_1_2_simulator/data/mac64/B2G.app/Contents/MacOS/b2g-bin -dbgport 6000 -profile //path/to/Firefox/profile//extensions/fxos_1_2_simula...@mozilla.org/profile --screen=//x

Re: FirefoxOS Qs: app manifest and screen resolutions

2013-09-30 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/09/27 23:19, wolf...@gmail.com wrote: It's possible, but difficult. This is issue 272 . Thanks Myk, Until I can get the other questions answered - can you point me to the "how to" on running the simulator at different resolutions? I've se

Re: FirefoxOS Qs: app manifest and screen resolutions

2013-09-27 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/09/25 14:12, Kumar McMillan wrote: On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:58 PM, wolf...@gmail.com wrote: - can the simulator be run at different resolutions somehow? Simulating different screen resolutions in the simulator would be a nice feature. I don't know if it's possible but you could file an i

Re: font-based icons work in Simulator but not device

2013-09-04 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/09/04 16:36, Andreas Gal wrote: Is this the b2g18 simulator? If not, there might be a difference between gecko 18 and trunk. Yes, this is the b2g18 Simulator, and I tested with b2g18 Simulator builds from both June 26 and August 30; so it doesn't look like an issue of b2g18 vs. trunk.

font-based icons work in Simulator but not device

2013-09-04 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Per this Twitter conversation , @creationix got his git-browser app working on FxOS, but font-based icons are busted in the app on his device, although they work in the Simulator. I

r2d2b2g Status, June 28 Edition

2013-06-28 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Here's the latest on the Simulator! *v4 Preview Builds* If you haven't tried a preview build recently, you're in for a treat! We've landed many bug fixes and enhancements over the course of the v4 development cycle. Read on for some highlights, or install the latest build and check

r2d2b2g Status, May 23 Edition

2013-05-23 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Here's what's new in Simulatorland. *3.0.1 Hotfix Update* We released a 3.0.1 hotfix update to address three issues: two potential security vulnerabilities and a breaking API change on Nightly/Aurora builds of Firefox. If you're still running 3.0, and Firefox hasn't prompted you to

r2d2b2g Status, April 26 Edition

2013-04-26 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Hot on the heels of the April 19 status update, here's a short but significant update from Simulatorland. *Last Preview Build Before Final Release* This morning we bounced off zarro boogs for the next release of the Simulator, and I built what I expect to be the last preview builds

r2d2b2g Status, April 19 Edition

2013-04-19 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Here's the news since last month's update! *Hotfix Update* We recently released a hotfix update to address an issue using the Simulator on the latest development builds of Firefox (Nightly and Aurora), where a breaking change was made to Firefox's addon APIs. If you have trouble usi

Re: r2d2b2g Status, March 7 Edition

2013-03-11 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/03/11 11:15, Ben Francis wrote: Hi Myk, This all sounds great, where can we get the "Latest Preview Release" as opposed to the stable one? Hmm, strange, the links to the preview builds didn't make it through! Here they are: Windows: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/labs/r2d2b

r2d2b2g Status, March 7 Edition

2013-03-07 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Here's the latest news from Simulatorland... *New Stable Release* Last month we shipped a new stable release of the Simulator with more up-to-date versions of B2G/Gaia and a variety of bug fixes I have previously described, including a vastly improved app install/update process. The

Apps Ecosystem Leads meeting cancelled

2013-02-13 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! The organizers of the Apps Ecosystem Leads meeting on Wednesday mornings have decided to cancel the meeting, as we have found other efficient and effective fora for communicating cross-team concerns. Those include discussion

Re: Custom js XPCOM component for Simulator

2013-02-08 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/02/07 17:48, Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) wrote: Where is the toolbar? I presume it's the left sidebar? The toolbar is the bar across the bottom of the Simulator window, which currently contains just the Home button. It's where we intend to add functionality that should live as close as possible t

Re: Custom js XPCOM component for Simulator

2013-02-07 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/01/30 18:09, Robert Kaiser wrote: Maybe you like the idea of adding randomized offsets like this, the code is PL2 so feel free to take the idea - or not. ;-) I like it! And it seems like something that other developers will find useful. So I'll keep your code in mind! Once we have basic

Re: Custom js XPCOM component for Simulator

2013-02-07 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013/01/29 18:33, Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) wrote: http://people.mozilla.com/~kchen/FakeGeolocationProvider.js http://people.mozilla.com/~kchen/FakeGeolocationProvider.manifest Thanks for the reference! As a first step, I have created a geolocation branch

r2d2b2g Status, February 4 Edition

2013-02-04 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! This is a brief update and request for your assistance! *Version 2.0pre6* Last week I announced version 2.0pre5, which I thought would be the last preview before the 2.0 stable release. Since then, however, we discovered a few issues in 2.0pre5 that we don't want to ship with, so we

Re: Custom js XPCOM component for Simulator

2013-01-29 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013-01-29 00:08 , Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) wrote: Would it be possible to add custom XPCOM components that are implemented in JavaScript to r2d2b2g at build time? Yes, we can add custom JS XPCOM components to both the addon (running in Firefox) and to B2G Desktop (which runs in a separate process).

r2d2b2g Status, January 28 Edition

2013-01-28 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! It's been a while since I last updated y'all about the status of the r2d2b2g project building Firefox OS Simulator. Here's the latest! *Development Lull* Simulator development took a back seat to other work (and some PTO) over the last month, so there hasn't been much progress late

Re: Cross domain request oddly behaviour

2013-01-23 Thread Myk Melez
On 2013-01-23 00:34 , moim...@gmail.com wrote: No i have set systemXHR permission and privileged type in app manifest since i went from 1.0 emulator to 1.1(and firefox 18). If by "emulator" you mean Firefox OS Simulator, then (at least part of) the problem is that Simulator app installs don't c

r2d2b2g Status, December 21 Edition

2012-12-21 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Just in time for your holiday breaks, an update from the Simulatorors! *Version 1.0**Released* We shipped version 1.0, our Minimum Viable Product, on December 5, via this hacks.mozilla.org blog post . It is availab

Re: r2d2b2g Status, December 1 Edition

2012-12-05 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-12-05 03:03 , Archaeopteryx wrote: 1) Will there be localized versions of the extensions so I can verify the translation and file bugs I see when testing it? (I didn't know where to put the /shared/ files in r2d2b2g 0.8) I hope so! The extension uses the Add-on SDK, which has support for

r2d2b2g Status, December 1 Edition

2012-12-01 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Happy December! The Simulatorors have been hard at work, and here's our latest news... *Version 1.0rc1 Available* Version 1.0rc1 is now available for Windows , Mac

r2d2b2g Status, November 21 Edition

2012-11-21 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Here's the latest news from the land of r2d2b2g. *Version 0.8 Available* Version 0.8 is now available for Windows , Mac , and Linux

Re: r2d2b2g Status, November 14 Edition

2012-11-15 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-11-15 09:49, Andy McKay wrote: Thanks for the updates! At some point I'd like to get a blog post on the apps blog as well about it: https://blog.mozilla.org/apps/ Seems reasonable to me! Kevin Dangoor is preparing a new blog post for the Hacks blog, and perhaps he can adapt that for th

r2d2b2g Status, November 14 Edition

2012-11-14 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! r2d2b2g is a project building a Firefox OS test environment called Firefox OS Simulator. I'm going to start updating this list periodically about our status. Here's my first update! *Feature Complete**For V1* Kevin Dangoor wrote a PRD

Re: WebAPI to get personal info about user of app

2012-09-01 Thread Myk Melez
[adding to: and reply-to: dev-webapi, which seems more appropriate for this question] Appists! felipiz on IRC during today's Apps Challenge in Brazil asked whether there's an API to get personal information about the user of an app, for example their name and primary email address, so it isn'

WebAPI to get personal info about user of app

2012-09-01 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! felipiz on IRC during today's Apps Challenge in Brazil asked whether there's an API to get personal information about the user of an app, for example their name and primary email address, so it isn't necessary for each app that wants such info to ask the user for it. I looked at the

Re: Weekly "Apps Ecosystem for FFxOS" Team Meeting: Calling all agenda items

2012-08-29 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-08-28 15:59 , Caitlin Galimidi wrote: hello 'zillians!! the weekly meeting is at hand in which we discuss progress and challenges on the Apps Ecosystem in support of the FFxOS Basecamp launch. We met! And talked about the upcoming Brazil Apps Challenge, documentation (DevHub, MDN

Re: focusing Apps Engineering meeting on Apps Ecosystem for Firefox OS

2012-08-28 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-08-20 16:36 , Myk Melez wrote: Let me know what you think! You can comment in this discussion, email me directly, or chat about it at the next Apps Engineering meeting. After discussing it with y'all in last week's meeting, I've decided to go ahead and make this change,

focusing Apps Engineering meeting on Apps Ecosystem for Firefox OS

2012-08-20 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Many projects in the Apps program are focusing on standing up an Apps Ecosystem (Marketplace, Developer Docs, etc.) for the first release of Firefox OS. And I want to make sure we use our precious Apps Engineering meeting time to support those efforts. So I propose we focus that meet

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-08-15 9:05am PT (16:05 UTC)

2012-08-14 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Wednesday)! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-08-15 Check out the agenda in the wiki, and add items to it! -myk ___ dev-webapps mailing list dev-webapps@lists.

Re: Does the WebRT UA align with the Firefox UA?

2012-07-23 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-07-23 08:40 , Lawrence Mandel wrote: I'm not sure this is that easy. AFAIK, WebRT does not allow me to enter any domain. I suppose this may be possible if I set up a test App with a link to www.whatsmyuseragent.com. Mardak's test app displays the user agent: http://ed.agadak.net/app/

actions from today's Apps Engineering meeting

2012-07-10 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! I recorded the following three actions from today's Apps Engineering meeting: * bwalker to set up meeting between marketplace, security, and platform to discuss work needed to support packaged apps * lmandel to talk to dietrich and michaelt about basecamp status and then let j

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-07-10 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-07-09 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday)! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-07-10 Check out the agenda in the wiki, and add items to it! Note: Due to an early-morning doctor appointment, I might be late or miss the meeting. In my abs

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-07-03 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-07-02 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday)! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-07-03 Check out the agenda in the wiki, and add items to it! -myk ___ dev-webapps mailing list dev-webapps@lists.mo

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-06-26 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-06-25 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday)! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-06-26 Check out the agenda in the wiki, and add items to it! -myk ___ dev-webapps mailing list dev-webapps@lists.mo

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-06-19 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-06-18 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday)! Check out the agenda, and add items to it! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-06-19 -myk ___ dev-webapps mailing list dev-webapps@lists.mozilla.org

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-06-12 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-06-11 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday)! Check out the agenda and add items to it: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-06-12 Note: I might be late or miss the meeting. In my absence, Bill will run it. -myk __

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-06-05 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-06-04 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday)! We experimented with a new format the last three weeks, and it seems preferable to the old one, so we're going to stick with it. Thus come to the meeting with Significant Updates, Questions and Concerns, and any Roundta

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-05-29 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-05-28 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Today (Monday) was a holiday in the US, so I didn't spend the day collecting your status updates. But we're still having our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting tomorrow (Tuesday)! This'll be the third week we try out the new format, so come to the meeting armed with your importan

Re: Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-05-22 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-05-22 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-05-22 10:41, Bill Walker wrote: ** Google Mobile Web Compatibility - Starting to Get Traction in Partner Communication Thanks Bill! I added these to the Minutes section of the meeting page: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-05-22#Minutes -myk

Apps Status - Monday, May 21

2012-05-21 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Apps work is happening all over the place! This is the second in a series of updates I'm initiating to give y'all visibility across the entire initiative. Be patient, these updates are still inchoate; they'll coalesce over time! Especially once we hire that project manager

Desktop Runtime Status - Monday, May 21

2012-05-21 Thread Myk Melez
Desktop Runtimers! Here's the latest on the STATUS of the project, the MOST IMPORTANT THING you can do to help, the SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING you can do, and a couple of NOTES of interest! STATUS We fixed some bugs and made progress on others over the last week, but (as of a few minutes

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-05-22 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-05-21 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting happens tomorrow (Tuesday). This week we're going to continue trying out the new format we tried out for the first time last week! I.e. we'll focus more on the status of projects/teams as a whole and their interdependencies than on individual

Apps Engineering meeting, 2012-05-15 9:00am PT (16:00 UTC)

2012-05-14 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! Our next weekly Apps Engineering meeting happens tomorrow (Tuesday). This week we're going to try out a new format that focuses more on the status of projects/teams as a whole and their interdependencies than individual tasks. So come to the meeting armed with important updates/chan

Apps Status - Monday, May 14

2012-05-14 Thread Myk Melez
Appists! The only status update I have for this week's (the first) Apps Status report is a WebRT Desktop one. The WebRT Desktop team is working to resolve issues considered blockers for release in Firefox 15, and there are a number of unowned blockers, so they could use your help! To help ou

WebRT Desktop Status - Monday, May 14

2012-05-14 Thread Myk Melez
WebRT Desktoppers! Last week, project drivers (ticachica, bwalker, jsmith, myk) triaged runtime-related bugs, primarily in the Web Apps/Desktop Runtime and Firefox/Web Apps components, and we identified a set of bugs that we think would block shipping the first version of the feature in Firefo

Re: updating the Apps Engineering meeting

2012-05-13 Thread Myk Melez
On 2012-05-07 16:49, Myk Melez wrote: So I propose we update the meeting format to reflect this new reality by delegating the tracking of individual tasks to the various teams doing the work and focusing the meeting on coordination between those teams. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and

webapprt/ directory now part of Firefox module

2012-05-13 Thread Myk Melez
Folks, Per a thread in governance [1], and in consultation with the Firefox module owner (Gavin Sharp) and a couple of its peers (Benjamin Smedberg, Dave Townsend), I have added the webapprt/ top-level directory [2] to the Firefox module [3]. Changes to this directory are now formally subject