Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-13 Thread Michal Schorm
We, as a distro, just take a different approach. To be bleeding edge requires to have releases often. That allow us to manage changes like GCC, OpenSSL and so on quickly. Struggling with upstream who don't adapt, can't adapt or don't want to adapt at the same speed. (And OpenSSL patch isn't someth

Re: could Fedora please reverse its policy re End-Of-Life

2018-11-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:14 PM steve schooler wrote: > > > I am currently using Fedora 26. When I first heard of your (new) End-Of-Life > policy, I hoped that the Fedora developer community would be so inundated > with complaints that the policy would be reversed. Instead however, the > poli

Re: could Fedora please reverse its policy re End-Of-Life

2018-11-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
steve schooler wrote: > I am currently using Fedora 26. When I first heard of your (new) > End-Of-Life policy, That policy is not new. It has been like that for years, and before that the lifetime was even shorter. > If you agree but need to first alleviate current burdens, then I suggest > rev

could Fedora please reverse its policy re End-Of-Life

2018-11-13 Thread steve schooler
This email is a hail mary pass. I posted the following message to the Fedora forum: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/129083/could-fedora-please-reverse-its-policy-re-end-of-life/ Part of the _closing_ response was for me to redirect the message to a fedora.org mailing list. No

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 19:27, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > Hi everyone! Let's talk about something new and exciting. Since its > first release fifteen years ago, Fedora has had a 13-month lifecycle > (give or take). That works awesomely for many cases (like, hey, we're > all here), but not for ever

Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-13 Thread Matthew Miller
Hi everyone! Let's talk about something new and exciting. Since its first release fifteen years ago, Fedora has had a 13-month lifecycle (give or take). That works awesomely for many cases (like, hey, we're all here), but not for everyone. Let's talk about how we might address some of the users an

Re: Fedora Rawhide-20181113.n.0 compose check report

2018-11-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 15:00 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: > No missing expected images. > > Failed openQA tests: 90/142 (x86_64), 24/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) > > New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181112.n.0): Pretty much every failure today was caused by: https://bugzilla.redh

Re: Fedora 29 release retrospective

2018-11-13 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi all, Due to requests from folks on the North America west coast, I've changed the time of the retrospective to 11am Eastern (1600 UTC). The meeting will still be in https://meet.jit.si/GuiltyCherriesSearchLoyally with notes taken in #fedora-meeting-2 (this is a change). I apologize for the shor

Re: Unexpected rebase of libsolv to 0.7.1 in F29, F28; please report any issues to bugzilla

2018-11-13 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 8:49 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 13:43 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > It wasn't a random rebase. A FESCo ticket was submitted and > > approved[1]. However, there was a miscommunication that led to the > > DNF > > team not being aware it happened. > > > >

Re: Unexpected rebase of libsolv to 0.7.1 in F29, F28; please report any issues to bugzilla

2018-11-13 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:49 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:35 PM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > There was an announcement of release libsolv-0.7.0 ([HEADS UP] libsolv 0.7) > > into rawhide, but the rebase also ended up in stable branches of Fedora

Re: Unexpected rebase of libsolv to 0.7.1 in F29, F28; please report any issues to bugzilla

2018-11-13 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 4:45 PM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > There was an announcement of release libsolv-0.7.0 ([HEADS UP] libsolv 0.7) > into rawhide, but the rebase also ended up in stable branches of Fedora 28 > and 29. This release could affect not only libsolv users, but

Re: Unexpected rebase of libsolv to 0.7.1 in F29, F28; please report any issues to bugzilla

2018-11-13 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 13:43 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > It wasn't a random rebase. A FESCo ticket was submitted and > approved[1]. However, there was a miscommunication that led to the > DNF > team not being aware it happened. > > [1]: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2009 This was not approved - the

Re: Unexpected rebase of libsolv to 0.7.1 in F29, F28; please report any issues to bugzilla

2018-11-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:42 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:35 PM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > There was an announcement of release libsolv-0.7.0 ([HEADS UP] libsolv 0.7) > > into rawhide, but the rebase also ended up in stable branches of Fedora

Re: Unexpected rebase of libsolv to 0.7.1 in F29, F28; please report any issues to bugzilla

2018-11-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:35 PM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > There was an announcement of release libsolv-0.7.0 ([HEADS UP] libsolv 0.7) > into rawhide, but the rebase also ended up in stable branches of Fedora 28 > and 29. This release could affect not only libsolv users, but

Re: [atomic-announce] Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20181113.0

2018-11-13 Thread Sinny Kumari
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:14 PM wrote: > > A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: > > Version: 29.20181113.0 > Commit(x86_64): > 89bfa708d349a5856cc5cd3be441c07e1f96d0be2aa97e2b676f6004e7f6abed > Commit(aarch64): > d0e58aa379b37a39fd5e29b8d87d747b5a3a6aeaef91de751f7ab

Re: Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement

2018-11-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 05. 11. 18 v 16:22 Justin Forbes napsal(a): > It > is possible that some of this could be alleviated with a fairly simple > change to mock. There is no need for a change in Mock. Mock can consume modules for looong time. You can put in mock config something like: # This is executed just befo

Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20181113.0

2018-11-13 Thread noreply
A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: Version: 29.20181113.0 Commit(x86_64): 89bfa708d349a5856cc5cd3be441c07e1f96d0be2aa97e2b676f6004e7f6abed Commit(aarch64): d0e58aa379b37a39fd5e29b8d87d747b5a3a6aeaef91de751f7abd39fbbe2d51 Commit(ppc64le): d8c4215c936a5e064dc4f1c9d

[Modularity] Working Group IRC meeting minutes (2018-11-13)

2018-11-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
= #fedora-meeting-3: Weekly Meeting of the Modularity Working Group = Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2018-11-13/modularity_wg.2018-11-13-15

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-13 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 12:41 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. We did not reach quorum yesterday, so the meeting was canceled. signature.asc Description: This is

Fedora Rawhide-20181113.n.0 compose check report

2018-11-13 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 90/142 (x86_64), 24/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181112.n.0): ID: 308260 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/308260 ID: 308266

Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:39, Patrick Creech wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 07:56 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote: > > > The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories. > > > > > > The upstream project is focusing the majority of it'

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20181113.n.0 changes

2018-11-13 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20181112.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20181113.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:3 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 9 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 173 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 93.32 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-13 Thread Patrick Creech
> Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already 'orphaned', and > the rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner' I did a little more digging this morning, and found the retire steps. I have retired on master the same packages listed below. Apologies for the confusion. >

Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-13 Thread Patrick Creech
On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 07:56 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote: > > The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories. > > > > The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts > > on pulp 3, and is removing fedora sup

Re: Upstream tip wanted: CI service for Big Endian acrhes

2018-11-13 Thread Jun Aruga
I just created the topic on Travis community page. https://travis-ci.community/t/multiarch-testing-tips/862 Jun ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Con

Re: Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement

2018-11-13 Thread Jakub Cajka
> Please do not drag Go into this if you want to handwave Go away > problems. Yes modules will be useful in Go but only to blow away in EPEL > the rotten Go codebase RHEL ships. > > But anyway, since you referred to GO. > > Go is the perfect example of why bundling as a general approach does not

[modularity] Contribute to Modularity architecture discussions

2018-11-13 Thread Adam Samalik
Just to make sure this reaches all interested parties, we have some important discussions about Modularity going on in Pagure tickets: Distribution Upgrades (reaching decision) — Handling modules, streams, and defaults during major distribution upgrades. * Tracker: https://tree.taiga.io/project/mo

Re: Golang review swaps

2018-11-13 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 21:05:19 +0100, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > Hi, Hi Robert, > i need help reviewing these packages: > > - golang-contrib-opencensus-exporter https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ > show_bug.cgi?id=1649059 > - golang-github-census-instrumentation-opencensus-proto https://