o testing.
>
> Still, what would it take to push them to testing right away?
>
I don't think packages can be 'pushed' into testing for at least 10+
releases. Instead what happens is a complete compose is made of the release
and then that is synced with what is already on the maste
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CentOS parts which have been using the Amazon CDN at times.
All of these are possible to get past, but they will take time, effort and
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> Unless we're going to call it RUM when it makes its way into RHEL, that
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Maybe it makes sense to put it just as a dedicated command like I thought
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x27;big' builders I remember are similar in hardware.. They look
great on paper, but if you try to give them a large capacity you end up
with even slower builds because they are loaners or spares which are good
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may have gone to `notme@notmy.email` and need
to update their info. It might be even clear that notme@notmy.email has
been active in bugzilla or some other area but hasn't done a build because
a different maintainer has done so.
We may need to come up with different methods of 'trust&#
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> not the rawhide version, but the host version?
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Currently I think all builders are Fedora 36.
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> > XP->7->8->8.1->10->11 versus 10. -> 10.. I was thinking
> o
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 18:23, Kevin Kofler via devel <
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> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > I don't know of an Operating System which isn't a rolling operating
> system
> > which works this way. MacOS, Windows, Debian, Ubuntu,
On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 09:38, Vít Ondruch wrote:
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> Dne 15. 08. 22 v 13:58 Stephen Smoogen napsal(a):
>
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 04:21, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
>> I just wonder, is the system upgrade to the more recent Fedora
>> automatic? I suspect that the
7;A new version of the operating system is ready for you'
which will require them to click that they want to upgrade to it. That is
about as easy as I can see it happening.
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pecific issue on
> > s390x server?
>
> usually the build killed and restarted due OOM, but this is weird as
> Michael's previous build finished in ~6 hours
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Looking at this system, I do not see any oom occuring. The build is
chugging away on this system but the
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I wonder if this is one of those problems where microdnf needs to be used
until the full dnf rewrite in C++ is done. I remember something about
memory usage and dnf vs microdnf a while ago for smaller memory systems..
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 08:43, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
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>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 at 16:12, Dan Čermák
> wrote:
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>> Hi Kevin and all,
>>
>> "Kevin P. Fleming" writes:
>>
>> > On 7/20/22 14:57, Marcus Müller wrote:
>> >> Oh
moving the users .emacs/.emacs.d does not change anything so I am
guessing there is some other 'breakage'. What can be done to debug this?
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er. Something like `dnf whatuses src:mypackage` (or of
> > similar simplicity) would be appreciated.
>
> If this functionality requires defining and enabling additional repos,
> maybe dnf is not the proper place? But then maybe fedpkg is. Anyway, I
> agree that a simple command wou
are comfortable using for a lot of
things, but this seems like trying to use it for a shipping container
across the ocean.
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d more fragile. We then try to find someone who can fix it.. and
then it ends up breaking worse. Eventually, if we have the time/ability it
is replaced with a python replacement.
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a great idea, it is also a hard problem. Please help
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> > On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 09:36:14AM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > > On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 09:25, Ralf Corsépius
> > > wrote:
> > >
>
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 11:18, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
>
>
> Am 09.07.22 um 15:36 schrieb Stephen Smoogen:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 09:25, Ralf Corsépius > <mailto:rc040...@freenet.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I t
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> > Hyperbole aside, it isn't a joke. Looking at the chain we see a common
> > problem where subversion relies on java-11-openjdk and without it is
>
out it being a good or bad thing.. it is just
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> On 29/06/2022 20:32, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > Yes, they can. So can a lot of other people and things in Fedora.
>
> Only proven-packagers in limited situations or people wh
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package they put into the OS. There is a give and take in what can happen
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> On 28/06/2022 15:52, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > Since I do not see this decision changing, it is probably time for
> > people negatively affected by this change to set up
om me.
>
>
Since I do not see this decision changing, it is probably time for people
negatively affected by this change to set up a COPR or some other build
system which builds the packages as they were previously. It might help to
see what kind of problems it has and if there are solutions wh
it is more than
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> On 6/6/22 14:28, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
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> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 14:07, Roger Wells
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>> we use pvcs here for CM and have for many years (~30).
>> Currently we are using it on RHEL 7 & Fedo
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On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 11:32, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
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> > 2. Are there ways that a non-TCK compliant version could be distributed?
>
> I would suggest phrasing that slightly differently: the version being
> distributed could very well
he way Fedora Project expects
things to be?
1. What are the legal concerns that the Fedora Project must do to
distribute OpenJDK?
2. Are there ways that a non-TCK compliant version could be distributed?
3. Clearer guidance to the volunteers on how to deal with these
requirements.
These are deeper is
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>
> On 5/25/22 15:19, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 May 2022 at 09:04, Jiri Vanek jva...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/24/22 21:41, Vitaly Zaitsev via deve
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ages. You could run into a case where nothing but root could run many
packages because various files in /etc /usr/bin and /bin were -rwx--
after doing an update. I think that was fixed over time, but I have run
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xternal repo is given a nod like
the ones we do for flatpak and such.
3. OpenJDK is taken out, and the various new people step up and put in a
IcedTea replacement that 'mostly' works and deals with the trademark
issues, and the marketing to get it seen and used.
Staying the same is not an op
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