[freenet-dev] Usability feedback from a geek new to Freenet

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: devl-bounces at freenetproject.org > [mailto:devl-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Cheng > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:03 AM > To: Discussion of development issues > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk > > On

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Toseland [mailto:toad at amphibian.dyndns.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:55 PM > To: xor > Subject: Re: I need help with Db4o / Freetalk > > On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:10, you wrote: > > > > Okay I did the following: > > > > -

[freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: > - Fixing the Firefox profile corruption bug, probably by starting a process > in > browse.sh/browse.cmd which constantly polls the profiles.ini and fixes it if > the freenet profile has become the default. > I hope I will get time to fix up a watchdog to do this

[freenet-dev] Installer redux redux

2008-12-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: > Many things have been decided, a few remain. Nextgens' main concerns turn out > to relate to where things are built and who signs them. > > Windows installer: > > The Windows installer should not be built on emu. An online installer could > either be built on Windows or

[freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7 build 1194

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Ian Clarke
> On top of my head: > - Cleaner code > - Proper detection of FireFox location > - profiles.ini watchdog thingy > - Check if node is running before launching FF (and if not, start or > inform user in a GUI message box) (and if needed, shutdown node > afterwards as well) > - If wanted, GUI warnings

[freenet-dev] Installer redux redux

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24373 - trunk/plugins/XMLSpider

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
callback object for each page. > @@ -1325,10 +1341,6 @@ > }, minTimeBetweenEachIndexRewriting * 1000); > } > > - public String handleHTTPPost(HTTPRequest request) throws PluginHTTPException{ > - return null; > - } > - > public void onFoundEdition(long l, USK key){ > FreenetURI uri = key.getURI(); > /*- > > ___ > cvs mailing list > cvs at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvs > > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081216/3225e86e/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24356 - trunk/plugins/XMLSpider

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
- for (Page page : visitedSnapshot) > - out.append(" HTMLEncoder.encode(page.comment) + "\">" + HTMLEncoder.encode(page.uri) > - + ""); > - out.append("Show > all"); > - > - out.append("Failed URIs"); > - out.append("Size :" + failedSnapshotSize + ""); > - for (Page page : failedSnapshot) > - out.append(" HTMLEncoder.encode(page.comment) + "\">" + HTMLEncoder.encode(page.uri) > - + ""); > - out.append("Show > all"); > - out.append("Time taken in generating index = > "+time_taken+""); > - } > + HTMLNode queuedList = pageMaker.getInfobox("Queued URI"); > + listPage(Status.QUEUED, queuedList); > + contentNode.addChild(queuedList); > > + HTMLNode succeededList = pageMaker.getInfobox("Succeeded URI"); > + listPage(Status.SUCCEEDED, succeededList); > + contentNode.addChild(succeededList); > > - private void appendDefaultHeader(StringBuilder out, String stylesheet){ > - out.append("" + pluginName + ""); > - if(stylesheet != null) > - out.append(" type=\"text/css\" rel=\"stylesheet\" />"); > - out.append("\n"); > - out.append("" + pluginName + > "\n"); > - out.append("Add uri:"); > - out.append(""); > - out.append(" />"); > - } > + HTMLNode failedList = pageMaker.getInfobox("Failed URI"); > + listPage(Status.FAILED, failedList); > + contentNode.addChild(failedList); > > + return pageNode.generate(); > + } > + > /** >* creates the callback object for each page. >*Used to create inlinks and outlinks for each page separately. > > ___ > cvs mailing list > cvs at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvs > > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081216/6402b0fd/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Update for Finnish translation

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24339 - trunk/plugins/XMLSpider

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
t; } > > Integer lastPosition = null; > > ___ > cvs mailing list > cvs at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvs > > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081216/daaefbca/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24308 - trunk/plugins/MDNSDiscovery/javax/jmdns

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] DatabaseClosedException

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
at > plugins.Freetalk.ui.NNTP.FreetalkNNTPHandler.run(FreetalkNNTPHandler.java:77 > 0) > at > freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.run(PooledExecutor.java:190) -- next part ------ A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081216/aa76e292/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Zero3
Florent Daigni?re skrev: > * Matthew Toseland [2008-12-16 00:28:54]: > > >>> I'm not arguing we should invest $ into getting a signed >>> >> certificate. I >> >>> am sure we have professional developers here who do have a valid, >>> trusted certificate.

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
Okay I did the following: - Remove the code which enables cascade on update. It is disabled by default, right? - Make all Freetalk objects store() their non-primitive member objects on their own. - class Message does not store(mAuthor) because the identities are stored by the

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Toseland [mailto:toad at amphibian.dyndns.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:03 AM > To: xor > Subject: Re: I need help with Db4o / Freetalk > > On Monday 15 December 2008 21:21, you wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From:

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Ian Clarke
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Zero3 wrote: > No, it isn't. My main point is providing an installer that works > independent of the website (arguments listed earlier). Would someone mind doing an installer redux redux (ie. remind us what the current points of contention are)? Ian. -- Ian

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Monday 15 December 2008 16:29, Zero3 wrote: >> >> >>> 2. Whether it should run from the startup group, by the logged-in user, >> >>> >> > rather >> > >> >>> than as a system service running in its own user. >> >>> >> >>> RESOLUTION: We

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Zero3 wrote: > Matthew Toseland skrev: >> On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:40, Zero3 wrote: >> >>> Matthew Toseland skrev: >>> Issues for the installer. Both Zero3 and nextgens seem to have decided to sulk, so I'll arbitrarily decide these issues where

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM, xor wrote: > > Hi, > > there is a severe Db4o problem in Freetalk: > Instances of class Message can only be created with a non-null member > variable mAuthor. Further, mAuthor is final. So when receiving messages, the Did you try to make it non-final? Maybe it

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24348 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/pluginmanager

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:37 PM, wrote: > Author: xor > Date: 2008-12-15 11:37:52 + (Mon, 15 Dec 2008) > New Revision: 24348 > > Added: > trunk/freenet/src/freenet/pluginmanager/FredPluginWithClassLoader.java > Log: > Add code to allow plugins to know their ClassLoader. Db4o does not work

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Florent Daignière
rovide binaries so WE decide who to trust. Hmm, Zero3's main point for providing an offline installer is that it can be redistributed... by 3rd parties we have no control over. Unless we pay for a "real" certificate, issued to FPI I don't see how the scheme can hold :) -- ne

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-16 Thread Florent Daignière
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[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-16 Thread Florent Daignière
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[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
ocess > > > > to get it set up > > > > > > Checkout, do "ant"; what's convoluted exactly? > > > > You need izPack and the launcher binaries in various places iirc ... > > Yes, you need your copy of izPack. Building the online installer is > straightforward... building the offline one is a bit trickier as you've > to "tell" the installer where the required packs are. > > [snip.] > > > > > > > I'm not arguing we should invest $ into getting a signed certificate. I > > > am sure we have professional developers here who do have a valid, > > > trusted certificate. > > > > Whom we can trust? Such as? > > I don't think it's a matter of trust here; well, I don't know; I do have > one for instance and I'm sure we could find others if we asked. > > Would anyone reading this mailing list volunteer to build and sign one > of our installers? IMHO it is a matter of trust as much as anything. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081216/c8b143a9/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-16 Thread Florent Daignière
s them. If you don't like that, then I guess it is time for you > and the project to part ways. > Maybe. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081216/4f8a943d/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-16 Thread Florent Daignière
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Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24308 - trunk/plugins/MDNSDiscovery/javax/jmdns

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 14 December 2008 13:12, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: Author: xor Date: 2008-12-14 13:12:37 + (Sun, 14 Dec 2008) New Revision: 24308 Modified: trunk/plugins/MDNSDiscovery/javax/jmdns/JmDNS.java Log: Add FIXME. Modified:

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24339 - trunk/plugins/XMLSpider

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 15 December 2008 04:10, j16s...@freenetproject.org wrote: Author: j16sdiz Date: 2008-12-15 04:10:33 + (Mon, 15 Dec 2008) New Revision: 24339 Modified: trunk/plugins/XMLSpider/XMLSpider.java Log: remove unused code, don't start queued uri immediately Why not? When I added

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Ian Clarke
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk wrote: No, it isn't. My main point is providing an installer that works independent of the website (arguments listed earlier). Would someone mind doing an installer redux redux (ie. remind us what the current points of contention

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-16 Thread Zero3
Florent Daignière skrev: * Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-16 00:28:54]: I'm not arguing we should invest $ into getting a signed certificate. I am sure we have professional developers here who do have a valid, trusted certificate.

[freenet-dev] Installer redux redux

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
Many things have been decided, a few remain. Nextgens' main concerns turn out to relate to where things are built and who signs them. Windows installer: The Windows installer should not be built on emu. An online installer could either be built on Windows or on *nix. An offline installer could

Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
Okay I did the following: - Remove the code which enables cascade on update. It is disabled by default, right? - Make all Freetalk objects store() their non-primitive member objects on their own. - class Message does not store(mAuthor) because the identities are stored by the

[freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
What should be in 0.8 and what should be postponed? We should aim to bring out 0.8 some time in 1H 09, so we need to agree on a rough idea of what features should be in and what should be postponed. IMHO the following are critical. I will implement them unless somebody else does. - Getting

Re: [freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 19:52, Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: - Fixing the Firefox profile corruption bug, probably by starting a process in browse.sh/browse.cmd which constantly polls the profiles.ini and fixes it if the freenet profile has become the default. I hope

Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
-Original Message- From: Matthew Toseland [mailto:t...@amphibian.dyndns.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:55 PM To: xor Subject: Re: I need help with Db4o / Freetalk On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:10, you wrote: Okay I did the following: - Remove the code which

Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-16 Thread xor
-Original Message- From: devl-boun...@freenetproject.org [mailto:devl-boun...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Cheng Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:03 AM To: Discussion of development issues Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk On Mon, Dec 15,

[freenet-dev] Usability feedback from a geek new to Freenet

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
[17:48:05] ESR_ Having used this system in a pretty heavy-duty way now I have some observations: [17:48:51] toad_ hmmm? [17:48:53] ESR_ 1. Design of the web interface -- very good. The arrangement of the controls is clever and logical. [17:49:37] toad_ hmmm that's an interesting opinion, there

Re: [freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: On Tuesday 16 December 2008 19:52, Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: - Fixing the Firefox profile corruption bug, probably by starting a process in browse.sh/browse.cmd which constantly polls the profiles.ini and fixes it if

Re: [freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Ian Clarke
On top of my head: - Cleaner code - Proper detection of FireFox location - profiles.ini watchdog thingy - Check if node is running before launching FF (and if not, start or inform user in a GUI message box) (and if needed, shutdown node afterwards as well) - If wanted, GUI warnings about

Re: [freenet-dev] Priorities for 0.8

2008-12-16 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I also think we may have a problem getting the user past the ok, its up and running, now what? stage. We need to give the user a natural path from installation to usage of Freenet, whether its surfing FProxy, using one of the discussion tools, or

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24396 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:43 AM, t...@freenetproject.org wrote: Author: toad Date: 2008-12-16 23:43:16 + (Tue, 16 Dec 2008) New Revision: 24396 Modified: trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/FNPPacketMangler.java trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/OutgoingPacketMangler.java

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24414 - trunk/plugins/XMLSpider

2008-12-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM, j16s...@freenetproject.org wrote: Author: j16sdiz Date: 2008-12-17 06:10:29 + (Wed, 17 Dec 2008) New Revision: 24414 Modified: trunk/plugins/XMLSpider/XMLSpider.java Log: aruuugh! i am going crazy Modified: trunk/plugins/XMLSpider/XMLSpider.java