Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-28 Thread Ian Clarke
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:31 AM, Steve Dougherty wrote: > > > Is there any technical evidence that Google Docs will deanonymize a > > Tor user, or even an explanation of how this could occur? The Google > > Docs client code can be easily examined, so if Google were somehow > > doing this, wouldn'

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-28 Thread Steve Dougherty
For some reason I have not actually received this message, so I've copied it from the mailing list archive and hopefully threaded it properly. > I'll keep this as short as possible to focus on which seems to be the > crux of the issue: > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Steve Dougherty > wrote:

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Ian
I'll keep this as short as possible to focus on which seems to be the crux of the issue: On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Steve Dougherty wrote: > > This sounds good, and would work well if it was what happened. The mail > I responded to had a reasonable first paragraph discussing the idea at > h

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Steve Dougherty
On 05/26/2016 10:02 AM, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2016 6:55 AM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com wrote: > I can understand if you're upset that Arne does not agree with you, but > I don't understand what you're doing here. Do you expect that if you > > berate Arne he will come around?

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Florent Daigniere < nextg...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > > Btw, > > I also disagree with using google-docs; the reason being: it requires > registration to a 3rd party service whereas the alternatives (wiki or > piratepad) don't. > In that case you will be pleased

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 14:02 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2016 6:55 AM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com > wrote: > I can understand if you're upset that Arne does not agree with you, > but > I don't understand what you're doing here. Do you expect that if you > > berate Arne he wi

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, May 26, 2016 6:55 AM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com wrote: I can understand if you're upset that Arne does not agree with you, but I don't understand what you're doing here. Do you expect that if you berate Arne he will come around? I expect that we can have a discussion based on

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 07:55 -0400, Steve Dougherty wrote: > On 05/25/2016 08:49 PM, Ian Clarke wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide > b.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Core technical reasons: > > > > > > - It excludes those of our users who assume (not unreaso

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-26 Thread Steve Dougherty
On 05/25/2016 08:49 PM, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide > wrote: >> >> Core technical reasons: >> >> - It excludes those of our users who assume (not unreasonably) that >> Google might de-anonymize them. >> > > Is there any technical evidence that Goog

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-25 Thread Ian Clarke
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Core technical reasons: > > - It excludes those of our users who assume (not unreasonably) that > Google might de-anonymize them. > Is there any technical evidence that Google Docs will deanonymize a Tor user, or even an explanat

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-25 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Ian Clarke writes: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z4s0D1M9HL0xCrf1tdaKGm5U3-WJBwRdMSvyj975WaA/edit?usp=sharing > This document should be accessible via Tor for anonymous users. I will not contribute to any workflow which requires Google Docs. Core technical reasons: - It excludes those

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-19 Thread Ian Clarke
On Wed, May 18, 2016 2:35 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote: Since the discussion seems to have ended, how about going to the next step? Good point - sorry, I've been distracted by my day-job. @Ian: Would you describe the next step? I've created a document here on which anyo

[freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

2016-05-18 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, Since the discussion seems to have ended, how about going to the next step? We seem to have the following 5 broad resource areas: * User Experience - Work on FProxy and installers to make them easier and more enjoyable to use * Security - Make Freenet more secure against attack * Techn