On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:36 PM Andrey Repin via dia-list
wrote:
> Greetings, Alejandro Imass!
>
> > No reason at all. Just thought that since the effort is relatively big to
> > modernize DIA to GTK 3 it would be worthwhile to at least discuss it.
> > Moreover, I think a future Web-based interfac
Greetings, Alejandro Imass!
> No reason at all. Just thought that since the effort is relatively big to
> modernize DIA to GTK 3 it would be worthwhile to at least discuss it.
> Moreover, I think a future Web-based interface to DIA (even if not the
> primary/native one) will be important for the l
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 14:31 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:04 PM Zander Brown wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:59 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> > > What I was thinking is that we could channel some funds to a
> > > University and have them work on it. My native count
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:04 PM Zander Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:59 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
>
>
>
> What I was thinking is that we could channel some funds to a University
> and have them work on it. My native country (Venezuela) is in pretty bad
> shape but top-notch Universit
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:59 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM Zander Brown
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:34 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
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> [...]
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> > > You seem to know exactly what needs to be done to get through the
> > > GTK 2 bump, and it awesome th
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM Zander Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:34 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
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[...]
> You seem to know exactly what needs to be done to get through the GTK 2
> bump, and it awesome that at least someone does and understands the urgency
> to AT LEAST bum
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:34 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:50 AM Zander Brown wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 22:20 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> >
> > The Gtk3 -> 4 transition should be much smoother, just a bit
> > monotonous
> >
> > > I have heard of people sugges
I don't think we need to argue. Alejandro's comment however raises an
important issue: "what are Dia's competitors"?
I think actually Dia can live alongside online diagram editors such as
draw.io and formats such as XML/SVG have nothing to do with it.
The reason why I have used dia in the past i
Hi,
On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 17:38 +, Eduard Nicodei wrote:
> Tomas Harding also suggested getting in touch with the authors
> directly, the only email I could find was Steffen Macke's (CC'ed) or
> even with the Gnome Bugmaster (also CC'ed).
The technical administrators of bugzilla.gnome.org don
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:40 AM Andrey Repin via dia-list
wrote:
> Greetings, Alejandro Imass!
>
>
>
[...]
> In the contrast, I can use Dia on my netbook with just 2 GB RAM
> comfortable.
> And not just starting and closing. The diagram I'm working with contains
> 1336
> objects.
> All it takes
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:50 AM Zander Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 22:20 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
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> The Gtk3 -> 4 transition should be much smoother, just a bit monotonous
>
> I have heard of people suggesting to use JSX for GTK 4, so not sure why
> the "shit" comment about R
Greetings, Alejandro Imass!
> Just for reference:
> https://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2016/08/17/a-quick-look-at-using-jsx-in-gnome/
> So why not think in this direction or node-gtk or something along these
> lines and get some fresh blood in here.
> Not so "shit" now, eh?
I was forced to sw
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 00:24 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:14 AM Alejandro Imass
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM timothy b via dia-list <
> > dia-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> > >
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> > > The question isn’t so much as to what uti
ions are answered, any other discussion is
> academic.
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> From: dia-list on behalf of Alejandro
> Imass
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 2:52 pm
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> To: discussions about usage and development of dia
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> Subject: Re: Mai
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 22:20 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:12 PM Thomas HARDING <
> t...@thomas-harding.name> wrote:
> > Hi, all !
> >
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> >
> > So,
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> >
> > Le 04/12/2018 à 11:21, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list a écrit :
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> > So, I think that's a good start
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:14 AM Alejandro Imass wrote:
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> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM timothy b via dia-list
> wrote:
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>> The question isn’t so much as to what utilities that Día uses, nor what
>> platform is managing the code.
>>
>> The discussion should be about is there anyone that wa
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM timothy b via dia-list
wrote:
> The question isn’t so much as to what utilities that Día uses, nor what
> platform is managing the code.
>
> The discussion should be about is there anyone that wants to maintain Dia
> for Windows, and who is prepared to maintain Día
discussion is academic.
From: dia-list on behalf of Alejandro Imass
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 2:52 pm
To: discussions about usage and development of dia
Subject: Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:20 PM Alejandro Imass
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On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:20 PM Alejandro Imass wrote:
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>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:12 PM Thomas HARDING
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, all !
>>
>> So,
>>
>> Le 04/12/2018 à 11:21, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list a écrit :
>>
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>
>> So, I think that's a good start point : why Dia, an unmaintained
>> software,
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:12 PM Thomas HARDING
wrote:
> Hi, all !
>
> So,
>
> Le 04/12/2018 à 11:21, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list a écrit :
>
> So, I think that's a good start point : why Dia, an unmaintained
> software, has *no* competitor /on its segment/ ?
>
>
DIA is very unique I give you tha
Hi, all !
So,
Le 04/12/2018 à 11:21, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list a écrit :
I don't think we need to argue. Alejandro's comment however raises an
important issue: "what are Dia's competitors"?
I think there will always be a need for an offline, open source,
portable lightweight diagram SW, s
Greetings, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list!
> The reason why I have used Dia in the past is that I could not find any
> other solution for the following requirements:
> - be fully offline (draw.io & co fail this - plus I'm not trusting them with
> any work-sensitive material!)
> - is free, open sou
Just to support the point made below about Dia as a component of a wider
workflow. The ability to extract the definition data from a diagram easily was
the major reason I chose to use Dia. The python interface is simple and exposes
all the content in a clear object oriented way. I looked at Visi
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:22 AM Eduard Nicodei via dia-list <
dia-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> I don't think we need to argue. Alejandro's comment however raises an
> important issue: "what are Dia's competitors"?
>
> I think actually Dia can live alongside online diagram editors such as
> draw.io and
I don't think we need to argue. Alejandro's comment however raises an
important issue: "what are Dia's competitors"?
I think actually Dia can live alongside online diagram editors such as
draw.io and formats such as XML/SVG have nothing to do with it.
The reason why I have used Dia in the past
Greetings, Alejandro Imass!
> IMHO maybe a fork is required to take DIA to the next level and separate it
> from GNOME even if you decide to keep using GTK and move to 3 or whatever.
> More than the actual graphics library I would look into taking the things
> that are really valuable from the cur
Just my $0.02 Background: I have been using DIA extensively since the 90s.
I use DIA and dia2code for UML and even do all my database modelling in DIA
with class diagrams and then create the DB models based on that. I have
even contributed to dia2code on enhancements that we've needed over the
year
Am 02.12.18 um 18:38 schrieb Eduard Nicodei:
> In the original "Doing some work on Dia" email, Tomas mentioned:
>
> Anyway, if anybody wants to help:
>
> * triaging bugs
> * providing patches or testing patch
> * going through dia forks [3] and extracting useful things
>
>
> I
Am 03.12.18 um 01:40 schrieb Andre Klapper:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 17:38 +, Eduard Nicodei wrote:
>> Tomas Harding also suggested getting in touch with the authors
>> directly, the only email I could find was Steffen Macke's (CC'ed) or
>> even with the Gnome Bugmaster (also CC'ed).
>
Am 03.12.18 um 03:21 schrieb Michael Ross via dia-list:
> I believe that Steffen (managed producing a windows installer) and Hans
> Breuer (who was the main decision maker about the direction of
> development) have passed on to their next incarnation. I think Tomas was
> suggesting to contact Gnome
Am 03.12.18 um 05:31 schrieb Steve Litt:
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 21:21:50 -0500
> Michael Ross via dia-list wrote:
>
>> I believe that Steffen (managed producing a windows installer) and
>> Hans Breuer (who was the main decision maker about the direction of
>> development) have passed on to their ne
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 21:21:50 -0500
Michael Ross via dia-list wrote:
> I believe that Steffen (managed producing a windows installer) and
> Hans Breuer (who was the main decision maker about the direction of
> development) have passed on to their next incarnation. I think Tomas
> was suggesting to
Cc: Michael Ross
Subject: Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia
I believe that Steffen (managed producing a windows installer) and Hans Breuer
(who was the main decision maker about the direction of development) have
passed on to their next incarnation. I think Tomas was suggesting to contact
I believe that Steffen (managed producing a windows installer) and Hans
Breuer (who was the main decision maker about the direction of development)
have passed on to their next incarnation. I think Tomas was suggesting to
contact Gnome personnel. Ownership of the project is locked up and we need
t
Hi All,
I know this has been asked before but I would like to voice my support as
well.
I saw Tomas Pospisek's (CC'ed) message on the Dia mailing list some time
ago about maintaining Dia and getting fixes merged into upstream ("Doing
some work on Dia"). I was wondering if Tomas or anybody else h
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