Sweet, thank you!
For this release Robert Fraser made an excelent addition: when compiling
programs using an external tool such as dsss, rebuild, dmd, gdc, ldc, gdmd
or bud, there are now links to the files in the console output for
warnings and errors. I think this one was pretty requested. So say thanks
Saaa wrote:
For this release Robert Fraser made an excelent addition: when compiling
programs using an external tool such as dsss, rebuild, dmd, gdc, ldc, gdmd
or bud, there are now links to the files in the console output for
warnings and errors. I think this one was pretty requested. So say
Saaa wrote:
Is the executable name any of bud or bud.exe? I think that's what the
process name is for Eclipse, and the links are associated to the process
name (not to the name you choose for the external tool).
:)
May I suggest adjusting the filter to bud*.exe or add a note on dsource as
I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M
Ary Borenszweig wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M
How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual
video file?
Thank you.
Reply to Ary,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M
The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE!
Leandro Lucarella escribió:
BCS, el 22 de mayo a las 00:01 me escribiste:
Reply to Ary,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M
The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE!
That's what happens when you have a turing complete language inside
another!
There is no
Ary Borenszweig Wrote:
grauzone escribió:
Ary Borenszweig wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M
How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual
video file?
Thank you.
Awww, but that made the tauting much better. :-(
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
dsimcha wrote:
Please, please, please PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
ALMIGHTY tell me
you're not serious!!! Isn't changing the interface such that forward
ranges are
no longer effectively a subtype of input ranges a bit drastic? Or do
you have
some
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Daniel Keep wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Apparently the entire talk has been filmed, and the conference
organizers have edited the footage a bit and will make it available
soon. Stay tuned.
Andrei
Why do you taunt us so?
Coming soon: something awesome you
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Christopher Wright dhase...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:gv29vn$7a...@digitalmars.com...
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Christopher Wright dhase...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:gv0p4e$uv...@digitalmars.com...
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I can see certain potential benefits to
dsimcha Wrote:
== Quote from Jason House (jason.james.ho...@gmail.com)'s article
dsimcha Wrote:
== Quote from Jason House (jason.james.ho...@gmail.com)'s article
IMHO, D should have a type with low size and function call overhead
like a
struct as well as reference semantics
On Wed, 20 May 2009 23:40:54 -0400, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote:
Christopher Wright dhase...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:gv29vn$7a...@digitalmars.com...
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Christopher Wright dhase...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:gv0p4e$uv...@digitalmars.com...
Nick Sabalausky
Walter Bright Wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Daniel Keep wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Apparently the entire talk has been filmed, and the conference
organizers have edited the footage a bit and will make it available
soon. Stay tuned.
Andrei
Why do you taunt us so?
Is this error intentional
import std.stdio;
class A
{
int a;
double b = 22.4;
string s = whatever;
string opCall() { return s; }
//T opCall(T = string)() { return cast(T) s; }
T opCall(T)(T* dummy)
{
if (is(typeof(dummy) : int*))
return cast(T) a;
else
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Steve Teale
steve.te...@britseyeview.com wrote:
Is this error intentional
import std.stdio;
class A
{
int a;
double b = 22.4;
string s = whatever;
string opCall() { return s; }
//T opCall(T = string)() { return cast(T) s; }
T opCall(T)(T*
I recently came across this:
version( BackendFoo ) {}
else version( BackendBar ) {}
else version( BackendCar ) {}
else
{
pragma( msg, Warning: backend version undefined );
pragma( msg, Attempting to guess backend );
version( Windows )
{
version = BackendFoo;
pragma( msg, Selected
BCS wrote:
in C# you almost never compile each source file separately, rather you
compile a bunch of sources into an assembly all at once and you provide
the list of other assemblies your code depends on. so the dependency is
on the package level rather than on the file level. this make so much
On Fri, 22 May 2009 02:45:24 +1200, Robert Clipsham
rob...@octarineparrot.com wrote:
If it's not possible to fix this, what way would you recommend I get
around this?
I think versions are powerfull enough so I created a wrapper around which
makes best use of static asserts (attached)
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Maybe this is naive, but what about an AST-level template/generic? Couldn't
that provide for the best of both worlds?
For instance, suppose (purely hypothetically) that the .NET assembly system
were changed to allow the source for a D/C++ style of source-level
Yigal Chripun wrote:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I suppose that might make reverse-engineering easier which MS might
not like, but I'm not suggesting this as something that MS should like
or should even do, but rather suggesting it as (business issues
completely aside) something that would
On Thu, 21 May 2009 10:45:24 -0400, Robert Clipsham
rob...@octarineparrot.com wrote:
I recently came across this:
version( BackendFoo ) {}
else version( BackendBar ) {}
else version( BackendCar ) {}
else
{
pragma( msg, Warning: backend version undefined );
pragma( msg, Attempting to
Reply to Yigal,
BCS wrote:
in C# you almost never compile each source file separately, rather
you compile a bunch of sources into an assembly all at once and you
provide the list of other assemblies your code depends on. so the
dependency is on the package level rather than on the file level.
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8m6p0/dobbs_code_talk_its_not_always_nice_to_share/
On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:28:30 +1200, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Walter Bright Wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Daniel Keep wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Apparently the entire talk has been filmed, and the conference
organizers have
On Thu, 21 May 2009 21:43:07 +0400, Tim Matthews tim.matthe...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:28:30 +1200, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Walter Bright Wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Daniel Keep wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
BCS wrote:
Reply to Yigal,
BCS wrote:
in C# you almost never compile each source file separately, rather
you compile a bunch of sources into an assembly all at once and you
provide the list of other assemblies your code depends on. so the
dependency is on the package level rather than on the
Denis Koroskin wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 21:43:07 +0400, Tim Matthews tim.matthe...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:28:30 +1200, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Walter Bright Wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Daniel Keep wrote:
Andrei
On Fri, 22 May 2009 06:16:28 +1200, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
Denis Koroskin wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 21:43:07 +0400, Tim Matthews
tim.matthe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:28:30 +1200, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
== Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s
Before I got into D, I was working on Enki. Enki was my own programming
language and of course made D look like a piece of crap. In Enki, you
had only very few primitives related to macro expansion, and you could
construct all
On Thu, 21 May 2009 23:07:32 +0400, BCS a...@pathlink.com wrote:
Reply to Yigal,
BCS wrote:
Reply to Yigal,
if you compile each file separately than you parse all 4 files for
each object file which is completely redundant and makes little
sense since you'll need to recompile all of them
dsimcha wrote:
Bringing this analogy back to language design, if you make a language very
highly
configurable and don't provide good defaults, the barrier to entry will just be
too high. If people have to understand a whole bunch of intricacies of the
macro
system to do anything more complex
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Versions are intended to be predefined before usage. It's the same
thing as using a variable before it's defined. The rational is, to flag
errors to the user where he thinks forward referencing of versions works.
Unfortunately, you have to do the following
Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote in message
news:gv3ubr$2u...@digitalmars.com...
Yigal Chripun wrote:
Nemerle's interesting, but it has its own issues. The largest one is that
it will have to beat history: languages with configurable syntax have
failed in droves in
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
There are many possible reasons for a failed language's failure. One of the
biggest is lack of visibility. Who has ever heard of IMP72? Sure, that lack
of visibility could have been because people hated that particular aspect of
the language, but it could also have been
Reply to Denis,
I assert that very rare that a programs NEEDS to use a DLL/so/DDL type
of system. The only unavoidable reasons to use them that I see are:
1) you are forced to use code that can't be had at compile time (rare
outside of plugins and they don't count because they are not your
Reply to Tim,
On Fri, 22 May 2009 06:16:28 +1200, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
Denis Koroskin wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 21:43:07 +0400, Tim Matthews
tim.matthe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:28:30 +1200, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com
The thread discussing what to do for input ranges vs. forward ranges got
me thinking.
The range concept may be defined backwards in terms of which is more
specialized. Consider that an input range is always usable as a stream.
But a stream is not easy to use as an input range (the
BCS wrote:
Is there going to be a midnight release party?
Rats, I almost forgot. I arranged with an old friend to hold a little
party in conjunction to his.
http://tinyurl.com/qgdolk
Andrei
P.S. In fact I'm only half kidding. According to the fellas on
fatwallet.com that's a good deal.
Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
The thread discussing what to do for input ranges vs. forward ranges got
me thinking.
The range concept may be defined backwards in terms of which is more
specialized. Consider that an input range is always usable as a stream.
But a stream is not easy
Not cosidering D or programming, the notion of a range implies a
beginning and an end. So, in a certain sense, ranges could be
conceptualized as slices.
All's well, and everything. But, things like input streams don't really
support the notion of range, or slice. They don't even want to.
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
BCS wrote:
Is there going to be a midnight release party?
Rats, I almost forgot. I arranged with an old friend to hold a little
party in conjunction to his.
http://tinyurl.com/qgdolk
Aww, geezz, the man must really be out of cash!
P.S. In fact I'm
$ g++ alloc.cpp -o alloc
$ time ./alloc
real0m1.946s
user0m1.688s
sys 0m0.256s
$ dmd -O -release allocd.d
$ time ./allocd
real0m22.734s
user0m22.353s
sys 0m0.360s
$ cat alloc.cpp
#include vector
typedef std::vectorint intvec;
typedef intvec* intvecp;
int main() {
Jason House wrote:
Maybe I'm a bit cynical, but I never expect my posts to cause a
change in D, or for my bug reports to even get a comment.
For that, I must confess you've got a more mature attitude than most
participants.
My long posts with well thought out ideas either get no response
nobody, el 22 de mayo a las 00:08 me escribiste:
$ g++ alloc.cpp -o alloc
$ time ./alloc
real0m1.946s
user0m1.688s
sys 0m0.256s
$ dmd -O -release allocd.d
$ time ./allocd
real0m22.734s
user0m22.353s
sys 0m0.360s
$ cat alloc.cpp
#include vector
== Quote from nobody (n...@where.com)'s article
$ g++ alloc.cpp -o alloc
$ time ./alloc
real0m1.946s
user0m1.688s
sys 0m0.256s
$ dmd -O -release allocd.d
$ time ./allocd
real0m22.734s
user0m22.353s
sys 0m0.360s
$ cat alloc.cpp
#include vector
typedef
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Suppose (purely hypothetically) that the .NET assembly system
were changed to allow the source for a D/C++ style of source-level template
to be embedded into the assembly. Then they'd be able to do D/C++ style
source-level template/code-generation. Right?
I assume,
On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:54:07 +1200, Robert Clipsham
rob...@octarineparrot.com wrote:
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Versions are intended to be predefined before usage. It's the same
thing as using a variable before it's defined. The rational is, to
flag errors to the user where he thinks
You've probably hit a corner case for the garbage collector. When you
allocate
20,000,000 Object instances and hold onto the references, the garbage
collector
probably runs about a zillion times and never finds anything to delete. If
this
is a bottleneck, you should temporarily disable
On Fri, 22 May 2009 05:37:42 +1200, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8m6p0/dobbs_code_talk_its_not_always_nice_to_share/
Should this change the way pure functions work. for example:
module test;
int i; //tls
pure void foo(int
nobody wrote:
$ g++ alloc.cpp -o alloc
$ time ./alloc
real0m1.946s
user0m1.688s
sys 0m0.256s
$ dmd -O -release allocd.d
$ time ./allocd
real0m22.734s
user0m22.353s
sys 0m0.360s
$ cat alloc.cpp
#include vector
typedef std::vectorint intvec;
typedef intvec*
Robert Fraser wrote:
nobody wrote:
$ g++ alloc.cpp -o alloc
$ time ./alloc
real0m1.946s
user0m1.688s
sys 0m0.256s
$ dmd -O -release allocd.d
$ time ./allocd
real0m22.734s
user0m22.353s
sys 0m0.360s
$ cat alloc.cpp
#include vector
typedef std::vectorint intvec;
Tim Matthews wrote:
Should this change the way pure functions work. for example:
module test;
int i; //tls
pure void foo(int arg)
{
i = arg;
}
void main()
{
foo(2);
}
Error: pure function 'foo' cannot access mutable static data 'i'
No. Pure functions cannot change global state,
Georg Wrede Wrote:
Jason House wrote:
I no longer try to work out the details and merely hope my efforts
plant a seed for thought. It's far less frustrating that way.
Sadly, ( /thoroughly/ sadly), this is like a party group. If you really
want exposure, your first post should be no
On Thu, 21 May 2009 17:40:27 -0400, Jason House
jason.james.ho...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
So what I think we may need is a different range primitive:
An iterable range defines: (name to be decided)
bool empty()
T popNext()
An input range is an iterable range that
nobody wrote:
You've probably hit a corner case for the garbage collector. When you allocate
20,000,000 Object instances and hold onto the references, the garbage collector
probably runs about a zillion times and never finds anything to delete. If this
is a bottleneck, you should temporarily
BCS wrote:
I assert that very rare that a programs NEEDS to use a DLL/so/DDL type
of system. The only unavoidable reasons to use them that I see are:
1) you are forced to use code that can't be had at compile time (rare
outside of plugins and they don't count because they are not your code)
Jason House wrote:
Georg Wrede Wrote:
Jason House wrote:
I no longer try to work out the details and merely hope my efforts
plant a seed for thought. It's far less frustrating that way.
Sadly, ( /thoroughly/ sadly), this is like a party group. If you really
want exposure, your first post
Yigal Chripun wrote:
What I was saying was not specific for DWT but rather that _any_
reasonably big project will use such a system and it's simply not
practical to do otherwise. how would you handle a project with a hundred
files that takes 30 min. to compile without any tool whatsoever
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 17:40:27 -0400, Jason House
jason.james.ho...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
So what I think we may need is a different range primitive:
An iterable range defines: (name to be decided)
bool empty()
T popNext()
An input range
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Yigal Chripun wrote:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I suppose that might make reverse-engineering easier which MS might
not like, but I'm not suggesting this as something that MS should
like or should even do, but rather suggesting it as (business issues
completely aside)
Yigal Chripun wrote:
just so you'd understand the scale I'm talking about - our largest
executable is 1.5 Gigs in size.
How is 1.5 GB of dlls better than a 1.5 GB executable? (And don't
forget, removing dead code across dll boundaries is a lot more difficult
than removing it within a single
Georg Wrede wrote:
Not cosidering D or programming, the notion of a range implies a
beginning and an end.
Actually, not. Infinity is a primitive notion with ranges. A range that
defines empty like this:
enum bool empty = false;
is detected as infinite and treated accordingly by certain
Robert Fraser schrieb:
reimi gibbons wrote:
2) how reliable is bcd to create binding for c libraries?
C? Very reliable (unless it uses weird compiler directives). C++ is a
bit trickier.
Last time I used BCD, it had no support for bitfields and generated
struct definition that do not match
On Thu, 21 May 2009 04:51:16 -0400, MLT wrote:
After a discussion on digitalmars.D I played with arrays a bit. Look at the
following code:
int[] a = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9] ;
int[] b = a ;
a ~= 10 ;
b ~= 11 ;
b[0] = 12 ;
Because new elements are pre-initialized in D.
Just by increasing the length, you 'create' a new element (from the 'b'
point of view) so D initializes it.
(We were talking about something like
int a[] = [1,2,3,4,5] ;
b = a ;
a ~= 6 ;
b.length = b.length+1;)
Hmmm... yes, that has some
On Thu, 21 May 2009 05:58:04 -0400, MLT wrote:
Because new elements are pre-initialized in D.
Just by increasing the length, you 'create' a new element (from the 'b'
point of view) so D initializes it.
(We were talking about something like
int a[] = [1,2,3,4,5] ;
b = a ;
a ~= 6 ;
white_man wrote:
Does it possible to modify DMD and publish it in that form. Of course with
full information about authors. Does it legal?
It depends. If you ONLY modify the front-end (front-end files are
identified as being licensed under GPL [1]), then you can distribute the
modified
BCS wrote:
Hello reimi,
i have 2 question here:
1) can anyone suggest good html parser with d binding?
IIRC ANTLR can generate D
The last supported version was 2.7.something. It depends on phobos,
possibly a rather old version of it (I don't know).
Daniel Keep wrote:
white_man wrote:
Does it possible to modify DMD and publish it in that form. Of course with full information about authors. Does it legal?
It depends. If you ONLY modify the front-end (front-end files are
identified as being licensed under GPL [1]), then you can distribute
I have a tuple of classes (D1 language), I'd like to instantiate one of them
directly with new, but it seems I can't:
template Tuple(T...) { alias T Tuple; }
class Foo { static void foo(){} }
class Bar {}
alias Tuple!(Foo, Bar) ClassTuple;
void main() {
alias ClassTuple[0] Foo0;
new
Jarrett Billingsley:
When it tries to parse
the type following 'new', it interprets the brackets as meaning an
array type,
I agree. But not even this works:
new (ClassTuple[0]);
Bye,
bearophile
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM, bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Jarrett Billingsley:
When it tries to parse
the type following 'new', it interprets the brackets as meaning an
array type,
I agree. But not even this works:
new (ClassTuple[0]);
Bye,
bearophile
Have you tried
bearophile wrote:
I have a tuple of classes (D1 language), I'd like to instantiate one of them
directly with new, but it seems I can't:
template Tuple(T...) { alias T Tuple; }
class Foo { static void foo(){} }
class Bar {}
alias Tuple!(Foo, Bar) ClassTuple;
void main() {
alias
Are there any cases where the following cases both compile but are not
identical?
A a;
B b;
a = b;
a.Foo();
and
A a;
B b;
a = b;
b.Foo();
The reason I ask is I'm wondering if making the type (and value) of an assignment
expression the right hand side rather than the left hand side
Hello
Any body can explan me how to determine if a template argument is an array?
Thanks
Fractal Wrote:
Hello
Any body can explan me how to determine if a template argument is an array?
...And also if is an associative array
Thanks
Reply to Frits,
BCS wrote:
Are there any cases where the following cases both compile but are
not identical?
A a;
B b;
a = b;
a.Foo();
and
A a;
B b;
a = b;
b.Foo();
struct A {
int i;
void Foo() { i = 42; }
}
alias A B;
The first case will set a.i to 42, the second will set b.i.
I
Fractal wrote:
Hello
Any body can explan me how to determine if a template argument is an array?
Thanks
Have a look at std.traits or tango.core.Traits. The appropriate way to
check is via the templates they define, since it's clearer. Looking at
the source will tell you how to replicate
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