Re: DConf 2014 Day 1 Talk 2

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 3 June 2014 at 16:43:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/277k5c/dconf_2014_day_1_talk_2_templates_in_the_wild_a/ Andrei One thing that positively surprised me is how deep into advanced D features

Re: Chuck Allison's talk is up

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 21:15:40 UTC, Olivier Henley wrote: On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:33:49 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27e5d7/dconf_day_1_talk_3_a_real_d_in_programming/

Re: Chuck Allison's talk is up

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce
http://youtu.be/ymoIx3klQ6M

Re: Adam D. Ruppe's D Cookbook now available!

2014-06-06 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 17:48:44 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-06-05 11:25, Chris wrote: My hard copy arrived today. Now I can read it anywhere I like ;) Funnily enough, it's only the second book about D and still I've been more productive in D than in any other language, languages

Re: Chuck Allison's talk is up

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:33:49 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27e5d7/dconf_day_1_talk_3_a_real_d_in_programming/ https://www.facebook.com/dlang.org/posts/860528800627469

Re: Interview at Lang.NEXT

2014-06-06 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 13:32:16 UTC, Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-announce digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote: Though I confess what horrifies me the most about dynamic languages is code like

Re: Chuck Allison's talk is up

2014-06-06 Thread Michal Minich via Digitalmars-d-announce
You can download trough this page http://offliberty.com/ without any additional plugins. Just pate the ustream url.

Re: D Hackday this Friday

2014-06-06 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 17:41:10 UTC, Jonathan Crapuchettes wrote: After Andrei's call for reducing pull requests and current issues associated with D, the data department at EMSI is doing a Fix D Issues Day this Friday and we would like to invite the D community to join us. Let's get

Re: D Hackday this Friday

2014-06-06 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 16:29:13 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 17:41:10 UTC, Jonathan Crapuchettes wrote: After Andrei's call for reducing pull requests and current issues associated with D, the data department at EMSI is doing a Fix D Issues Day this Friday and we

Re: D Hackday this Friday

2014-06-06 Thread Justin Whear via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 16:29:11 +, Brad Anderson wrote: On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 17:41:10 UTC, Jonathan Crapuchettes wrote: After Andrei's call for reducing pull requests and current issues associated with D, the data department at EMSI is doing a Fix D Issues Day this Friday and we would

Re: Chuck Allison's talk is up

2014-06-06 Thread Olivier Henley via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 00:24:49 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/5/14, 11:15 PM, Olivier Henley wrote: I would love to spam my colleges here at Ubisoft Montreal with DConf 2014 talks ... but UStream is blocked studio wide. Is there any plans to mirror the talks somewhere else? We can

Re: D Hackday this Friday

2014-06-06 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:30:57 -0400, Brad Anderson e...@gnuk.net wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 16:29:13 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 17:41:10 UTC, Jonathan Crapuchettes wrote: After Andrei's call for reducing pull requests and current issues associated with D, the

Re: DConf 2014 Day 1 Talk 2

2014-06-06 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 02:57:47 -0400, Dicebot pub...@dicebot.lv wrote: On Tuesday, 3 June 2014 at 16:43:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/277k5c/dconf_2014_day_1_talk_2_templates_in_the_wild_a/ Andrei One thing

Re: D Hackday this Friday

2014-06-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 6/6/2014 12:30 PM, Brad Anderson wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 16:29:13 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: So is the plan to just comb over the issue tracker and fix easy issues and close resolved or invalid issues? I somehow mixed up comb through and pore over into a Trumpian conflation. :)

Re: Interview at Lang.NEXT

2014-06-06 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 06:19:05 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27911b/conversation_with_andrei_alexandrescu_all_things/ Andrei OK I noticed that I messed up in answering. I was saying that you 2 seems to be confused between LLVM and clang.

Offtopic: AMA (Was: Interview at Lang.NEXT)

2014-06-06 Thread Ary Borenszweig via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 6/4/14, 3:19 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27911b/conversation_with_andrei_alexandrescu_all_things/ Andrei This is offtopic, but why are people obsessed with writing English acronyms? I always have to lookup the meaning and then I'm polluting

Re: Interview at Lang.NEXT

2014-06-06 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 22:02:37 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: Yeah, I'm generally against it... but I have a weird view of typing. The way I see it, you should go either strong and static or dynamic and weak - I hate the middle ground. So, in my view: Best (like D): string a = 10; int b

Re: Offtopic: AMA (Was: Interview at Lang.NEXT)

2014-06-06 Thread Ary Borenszweig via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 6/6/14, 5:25 PM, Tourist wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:27:35 UTC, Ary Borenszweig wrote: On 6/4/14, 3:19 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27911b/conversation_with_andrei_alexandrescu_all_things/ Andrei This is offtopic, but why are

Re: Offtopic: AMA (Was: Interview at Lang.NEXT)

2014-06-06 Thread Tourist via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:27:35 UTC, Ary Borenszweig wrote: On 6/4/14, 3:19 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27911b/conversation_with_andrei_alexandrescu_all_things/ Andrei This is offtopic, but why are people obsessed with writing English

Re: Offtopic: AMA (Was: Interview at Lang.NEXT)

2014-06-06 Thread Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 20:27:45 UTC, Ary Borenszweig wrote: On 6/6/14, 5:25 PM, Tourist wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:27:35 UTC, Ary Borenszweig wrote: AMA is kinda reddit thing. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1nl9at/i_am_a_member_of_facebooks_hhvm_team_a_c_and_d/ Interesting,

Re: Offtopic: AMA (Was: Interview at Lang.NEXT)

2014-06-06 Thread Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:27:35 UTC, Ary Borenszweig wrote: On 6/4/14, 3:19 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27911b/conversation_with_andrei_alexandrescu_all_things/ Andrei This is offtopic, but why are people obsessed with writing English

Re: Swift is based LLVM,what will the D's LDC do?

2014-06-06 Thread Marco Leise via Digitalmars-d
Am Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:30:40 + schrieb Dicebot pub...@dicebot.lv: On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:01:43 UTC, bioinfornatics wrote: On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: This likewise gdc too. All you

Re: Will std.experimental be shipped with DMD zip package?

2014-06-06 Thread ed via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:57:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/5/14, 1:08 PM, uri wrote: I assume it will but thought I'd ask all the same... I only use the latest official release and would still like to bash on std.experimental modules so I hope it will be in 2.066.zip. Thanks,

Re: Using up-to-date GDC [was Re: Swift is based LLVM,what will the D's LDC do?]

2014-06-06 Thread Marco Leise via Digitalmars-d
Am Thu, 5 Jun 2014 22:47:15 +0200 schrieb Johannes Pfau nos...@example.com: archlinux has a 'pragmatic' approach regarding licenses patents anyway. They also ship libdvdcss, mesa with --enable-texture-float, all multimedia codec packages are in the standard repos etc. On Gentoo, due to the

Re: Make std.container.Array an output range

2014-06-06 Thread Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d
05-Jun-2014 17:51, Rene Zwanenburg пишет: I depend heavily on RAII in a project I'm working on. Since structs in dynamic arrays never have their destructors called I'm using Array!T instead. A pattern that comes up often is that I have some input range of T's which need to be stored in a member

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 00:34:19 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: And like with them, it's impossible to use ref for this, because you can't use ref with variadic template arguments. Wait what? void foo(T...)(ref T args) { args[0] = 42; } void main() { int x;

Just curious: who do know current purity rules?

2014-06-06 Thread Denis Shelomovskij via Digitalmars-d
As Kenji Hara just created purity fixing pull [1] we will probably soon have more intuitive rules so it's interesting who do understand current purity rules. The following code is proposed to check your understanding: --- alias F = bool function(int) pure; alias D = bool delegate(int) pure; D

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
It happens regularly with posts going through mailman.

Re: Just curious: who do know current purity rules?

2014-06-06 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
Do you mean true purity rules or whatever is implemented in the compiler?

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread monarch_dodra via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 08:58:44 UTC, Kagamin wrote: It happens regularly with posts going through mailman. It happens sometimes. Jonathan's post have been doing it *every time* in the last couple of days...

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:14:13 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 00:34:19 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: And like with them, it's impossible to use ref for this, because you can't use ref with variadic template

Re: Will std.experimental be shipped with DMD zip package?

2014-06-06 Thread ed via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:57:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/5/14, 1:08 PM, uri wrote: I assume it will but thought I'd ask all the same... I only use the latest official release and would still like to bash on std.experimental modules so I hope it will be in 2.066.zip. Thanks,

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:21:56 + monarch_dodra via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 08:58:44 UTC, Kagamin wrote: It happens regularly with posts going through mailman. It happens sometimes. Jonathan's post have been doing it *every time* in the

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 04:02:22 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 02:21:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 6/5/2014 6:08 PM, deadalnix wrote: On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:11:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Ha! Though, truth be told, I can't stand modern pop

D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
Can anyone point me to a text version of the D grammar in some kind of BNF or EBNF format? The D lang web site's info is close, but it's buried in html which I'ld rather not have to wrestle with. My purpose is to attempt to write a D language parser in Perl using Damian Conway's Regex::Grammars

Re: Digital Mars purchase trouble?

2014-06-06 Thread Sönke Ludwig via Digitalmars-d
Am 06.06.2014 05:19, schrieb K.K.: Hey I know this isn't the perfect place to ask this but... Has anyone else had trouble ordering from Digital Mars? I particularly ordered the Utility package. The site took my order on paypal fine but then I never got anything after that. So I tried emailing

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Philpax via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 10:30:14 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Can anyone point me to a text version of the D grammar in some kind of BNF or EBNF format? The D lang web site's info is close, but it's buried in html which I'ld rather not have to wrestle with. My purpose is to

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread monarch_dodra via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 09:35:56 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:14:13 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 00:34:19 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: And like with them, it's

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Philpax via Digitalmars-d digitalmars- On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 10:30:14 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Can anyone point me to a text version of the D grammar in some kind of BNF or EBNF format? The D lang web site's info is close, but it's buried in

Re: D Users Survey: Primary OS?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone done a survey of the primary OS of D users? Perhaps the D Wiki could be used as an official D user registration site. Right now all persons with an account could be assumed to be D users, and, with a bit of

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 10:35:58 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 09:35:56 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:14:13 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 00:34:19 UTC, Jonathan M

Re: D Users Survey: Primary OS?

2014-06-06 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 6/06/2014 10:56 p.m., Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone done a survey of the primary OS of D users? Perhaps the D Wiki could be used as an official D user registration site. Right now all persons with

Re: What's going on with std.experimental.lexer?

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:57:35 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 21:12:25 UTC, Brian Schott wrote: I've been looking at ways to optimize the D lexer's operation using SIMD instructions. I'm not yet sure if I'll need to change the

Re: D Users Survey: Primary OS?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Doesn't the issue tracker verify email and have profile info already? If so we could use that as the registration mechanism. Instead of some custom thing. Perhaps, but for normal users the

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d
On 06/06/2014 12:29 PM, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Can anyone point me to a text version of the D grammar in some kind of BNF or EBNF format? The D lang web site's info is close, but it's buried in html which I'ld rather not have to wrestle with. My purpose is to attempt to write a

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 06/06/2014 12:29 PM, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: ... My purpose is to attempt to write a D language parser in Perl using Damian Conway's Regex::Grammars module (on CPAN). ... The

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:42:29 -0400, Brad Anderson e...@gnuk.net wrote: On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 22:06:02 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote: On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 08:49:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d long days; int seconds; short msecs; d.split!(days, seconds,

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Wyatt via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 09:47:24 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: I may have to stop posting from work for the time being. :| I understand it may not be ideal from the perspective of your usual NG workflow, but maybe the forum interface could offer some relief? -Wyatt

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 04/06/2014 19:58, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 31.05.2014 15:37, schrieb Abdulhaq: There's been 100 votes and the results are: Linux 64 bits: 53 Linux 32 bits: 4 Windows 64 bits:27 Windows 32 bits: 3 Mac: 7 Thats a lot more windows users then I would have

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Byron Heads via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:00:39 +0200, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: It's a common idiom in core.time and std.datetime to use strings to represent units when you need to give the units as template arguments. If it hade't been strings, it would have been an enum (otherwise, they would

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:49:42 + Wyatt via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 09:47:24 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: I may have to stop posting from work for the time being. :| I understand it may not be ideal from the

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 05/06/2014 18:44, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: (first best opera? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuf9ZSJrdg oh yeah ff6!) Lol. I was never a big fan of FF 6, or FF in general, but admittedly that opera scene was great, perhaps even my favorite FF moment! (I only played 3 FFs though) -- Bruno

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 17:57:16 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 6/4/2014 7:59 AM, Dejan Lekic wrote: I humbly believe programmer who does not spend spare time reading literature related to his/her work is most likely going to lose the job at some point, as people who DO spend time in

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 04/06/2014 20:02, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 11:51:04AM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 6/4/2014 11:36 AM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:30:32AM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 6/3/2014

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d
One 'other' vote was spoiled. It turns out that the free SurveyMonkey account only allows 100 votes max, but the profile has been much the same since 50 votes so I think the ratios are clear. Perhaps you should try http://www.surveygalaxy.com . That is what I use when I need a survey.

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The site says it creates recursive decent parser. D does not even fit into lalr1. So it will not work, unless you can inject handwritten parse function for the critical parts Do you know the k

Re: Digital Mars purchase trouble?

2014-06-06 Thread K.K. via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 10:34:00 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Am 06.06.2014 05:19, schrieb K.K.: Hey I know this isn't the perfect place to ask this but... Has anyone else had trouble ordering from Digital Mars? I particularly ordered the Utility package. The site took my order on paypal fine

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 18:58:09 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 31.05.2014 15:37, schrieb Abdulhaq: There's been 100 votes and the results are: Linux 64 bits: 53 Linux 32 bits: 4 Windows 64 bits:27 Windows 32 bits: 3 Mac: 7 Thats a lot more windows

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 13:24:22 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote: On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 17:57:16 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 6/4/2014 7:59 AM, Dejan Lekic wrote: I humbly believe programmer who does not spend spare time reading literature related to his/her work is most likely going to

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:34 +, Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] At home, I got fed up tinkering GNU/Linux since my Slackware days (1995), as laptop support still tends to fall in some parts, namely graphics support, wireless chipsets and battery usage. Is this still true? As far

[OT] C++ the Clear Winner In Google's Language Performance Tests

2014-06-06 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d
Slashdot thread: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/06/15/0242237/c-the-clear-winner-in-googles-language-performance-tests Research paper: https://days2011.scala-lang.org/sites/days2011/files/ws3-1-Hundt.pdf I wonder what would be situation if they included D, Rust and even Ur in that

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 01:24:20PM +, Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] A typical scenario is when (top-level) manager (M) want thing yesterday, and tell senior engineer (SE) M: How long will it take? SE: Well, we did not even analyse the requirements for this feature. Let's

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 13:58:59 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:34 +, Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] At home, I got fed up tinkering GNU/Linux since my Slackware days (1995), as laptop support still tends to fall in some parts, namely

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 12:05:36 UTC, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 06/06/2014 12:29 PM, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Can anyone point me to a text version of the D grammar in some kind of BNF or EBNF format? The D lang web site's info is close, but it's buried in html

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: ... Dscanner project has ANTLR grammer for D. It is unpolished, but works. It is on Github. Yes, thanks, but I really want one to use in Perl. Any idea of the value of k in LALR(k) for D? -Tom

Re: [OT] C++ the Clear Winner In Google's Language Performance Tests

2014-06-06 Thread dennis luehring via Digitalmars-d
Am 06.06.2014 16:34, schrieb Dejan Lekic: Slashdot thread: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/06/15/0242237/c-the-clear-winner-in-googles-language-performance-tests Research paper: https://days2011.scala-lang.org/sites/days2011/files/ws3-1-Hundt.pdf I wonder what would be situation if

.NET - Heap Allocations Viewer plugin

2014-06-06 Thread Michal Minich via Digitalmars-d
This is how variation on theme of @nogc or @noalloc can look in IDE. New plugin for Resharper from one of JetBrains developers. http://blog.jetbrains.com/dotnet/2014/06/06/heap-allocations-viewer-plugin/ I for sure will try it.

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d
On 06/06/2014 04:37 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Yeah that sounds very familiar. A typical situation at my job goes something like this: Customer: I want feature X! Sales rep: OK, we'll implement X in 1 month. Customer: No, I want it by last month! Sales rep: OK, and we'll throw in

Fedora DMD package

2014-06-06 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
Is there a good reason why the dmd Fedora 20 package pulls in the following as dependencies: cyrus-sasl-libi686 2.1.26-14.fc20fedora 152 k glibc-devel i686 2.18-12.fc20 updates 1.0 M libcurl i686 7.32.0-10.fc20

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 6/6/2014 9:33 AM, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The site says it creates recursive decent parser. D does not even fit into lalr1. So it will not work, unless you can inject handwritten

Re: (git HEAD) std.datetime spewing deprecation messages

2014-06-06 Thread Wyatt via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 13:04:24 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: It took us ages to get them to even open the outbound ssh port. Oh? This is promising. Sounds like it's time to set up a reverse SSH tunnel! ...Not that I have all sort of experience with these because of

Re: Fedora DMD package

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
curl is dependency of std.net.curl, some of other dependencies may have been pulled by it indirectly.

Re: Fedora DMD package

2014-06-06 Thread Ellery Newcomer via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 15:24:20 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: OK, I can perhaps see why glibc-devel, but the rest? And why i686 packages on an x86_64 machine? Thanks. to support -m32, probably

Re: Digital Mars purchase trouble?

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 13:32:58 + K.K. via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Actually, Walter emailed me last night and sorted it out. Though, I still don't really know what happened with the order process... Maybe it was just bad luck? Well, while it may arguably be bad luck

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 05:14:34PM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 06/06/2014 04:37 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Yeah that sounds very familiar. A typical situation at my job goes something like this: Customer: I want feature X! Sales rep: OK, we'll implement X in 1

Re: Digital Mars purchase trouble?

2014-06-06 Thread K.K. via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 16:52:50 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 13:32:58 + K.K. via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Actually, Walter emailed me last night and sorted it out. Though, I still don't really know what happened with the

Re: Fedora DMD package

2014-06-06 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 6/6/2014 8:24 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Is there a good reason why the dmd Fedora 20 package pulls in the following as dependencies: cyrus-sasl-libi686 2.1.26-14.fc20fedora 152 k glibc-devel i686 2.18-12.fc20 updates

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 6/6/2014 1:06 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 05:14:34PM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote: Isn't the fundamental problem here that the customer will pay a billion dollars even if the software ends up being full of bugs? Yes, because the customer is

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 6/6/2014 9:24 AM, Dejan Lekic wrote: A typical scenario is when (top-level) manager (M) want thing yesterday, and tell senior engineer (SE) M: How long will it take? SE: Well, we did not even analyse the requirements for this feature. Let's spend some time brainstorming this first, and then

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread David Gileadi via Digitalmars-d
On 6/6/14, 11:01 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Bottom line is, managers are purely liabilities, not assets. It's no surprise to me that the best software out there is usually OSS, where there isn't one damn manager anywhere to be found. Funny how people think managers perform an actual function,

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Mattcoder via Digitalmars-d
Well, some managers are mindless and that story about do it now or we will lose our customer, in most cases it's just a bluff/threat or call it what you want. The customers usually don't change their software like they change bakery if the bread is horrible. There are many costs envolved in

Re: Fedora DMD package

2014-06-06 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d
Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Is there a good reason why the dmd Fedora 20 package pulls in the following as dependencies: cyrus-sasl-libi686 2.1.26-14.fc20fedora 152 k glibc-devel i686 2.18-12.fc20 updates 1.0 M libcurl

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Brian Schott via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 14:56:19 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Yes, thanks, but I really want one to use in Perl. Any idea of the value of k in LALR(k) for D? -Tom If you somehow manage to get any parser generator to correctly handle D, you will be the first person in the

Re: Just curious: who do know current purity rules?

2014-06-06 Thread Denis Shelomovskij via Digitalmars-d
06.06.2014 13:05, Kagamin пишет: Do you mean true purity rules or whatever is implemented in the compiler? whatever is implemented. ) -- Денис В. Шеломовский Denis V. Shelomovskij

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 02:01:38PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 6/6/2014 1:06 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 05:14:34PM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote: Isn't the fundamental problem here that the customer will pay a billion

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 06.06.2014 16:36, schrieb Dicebot: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 13:58:59 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:34 +, Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] At home, I got fed up tinkering GNU/Linux since my Slackware days (1995), as laptop support still

Re: Just curious: who do know current purity rules?

2014-06-06 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:32:17 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij wrote: 06.06.2014 13:05, Kagamin пишет: Do you mean true purity rules or whatever is implemented in the compiler? whatever is implemented. ) Do someone know whatever is implemented ? I certainly don't.

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:37:47 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Techie A: Hey dude, this morning I got this crazy kewl idea on how to make our spreadsheet app play a flight simulator! Techie B: Really?! Let's see it! Techie A: Here, you put this formula in this cell here,

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 07:49:47PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:37:47 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Techie A: Hey dude, this morning I got this crazy kewl idea on how to make our spreadsheet app play a flight simulator! Techie B:

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Ary Borenszweig via Digitalmars-d
On 6/6/14, 5:03 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 07:49:47PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:37:47 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Techie A: Hey dude, this morning I got this crazy kewl idea on how to make

Re: Optionally strongly typed array indexes

2014-06-06 Thread Philippe Sigaud via Digitalmars-d
Also true, though as a side note, I think a library solution for this could be quite nice: enum newton = 1.as!kg*m/s^2; // One possibility. enum newton = 1*kg*m/square(s); // Another. Sorry to intrude, but you can also get: enum newton = 1.kg/m/s^^2; Which is quite readable. In this

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:44:53 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Battery usage is still a common problem. Everything has been working perfectly for years now. Not really, case in point my Netbook Asus EEE PC 1215B, which was sold in Germany via Amazon with GNU/Linux support pre-installed. After

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 06.06.2014 20:51, schrieb Mattcoder: Well, some managers are mindless and that story about do it now or we will lose our customer, in most cases it's just a bluff/threat or call it what you want. The customers usually don't change their software like they change bakery if the bread is

Re: [OT] Extra time spent

2014-06-06 Thread John via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 19:04:19 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: It's strange, I find that even ambient music distracts me, yet the loud noise of an occasional passing train doesn't. Similarly, even whispers will distract me, but birds chirping, trees rustling, etc., don't.

Re: SurveyMonkey for D users OS - Results

2014-06-06 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 06.06.2014 22:24, schrieb Dicebot: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 19:44:53 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Battery usage is still a common problem. Everything has been working perfectly for years now. Not really, case in point my Netbook Asus EEE PC 1215B, which was sold in Germany via Amazon with

Re: Optionally strongly typed array indexes

2014-06-06 Thread Mason McGill via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 20:22:35 UTC, Philippe Sigaud via Digitalmars-d wrote: Sorry to intrude, but you can also get: enum newton = 1.kg/m/s^^2; Good point. I actually learned D had an exponentiation operator just yesterday. It definitely helps readability in this case.

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Brian Schott via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: If you somehow manage to get any parser generator to correctly handle D, you will be the first person in the world to have done so. Oops, fools rushing in, eh? This may help:

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Brian Schott via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 22:25:16 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Now I'm confused--the three files I've found have differences in production rules--it looks like I'll have to look at what the compiler is actually doing--I'm putting that off for a while unless someone has another

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Brian Schott via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 22:25:16 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d wrote: Now I'm confused--the three files I've found have differences in production rules--it looks like I'll have to look at

Re: D Grammar in BNF Text Form?

2014-06-06 Thread Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote: ... What about the lexer and parser info on the D lang site in the I should have been more precise and said the lexical and grammar sections of the language reference. on the D lang site Best, -Tom

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