will live only until the next official release is out,
or if they will be long-term. I thought it was the later, so people
don't have to worry about bugs related to new features they don't care
about, but now I'm not so sure.
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first pushes changes to the good public repository and
the autotester runs after the commits are published, so there is no way
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:)
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. Pipes for the win!
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Stewart Gordon, el 28 de marzo a las 14:54 me escribiste:
What do people think to the whole idea?
I think this is not an announcement at all and shouldn't be discussed in
this list :)
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as fixed - 314 - was reopened.
That was removed from the changelog, it's just that the dlang.org
hasn't been synced yet.
D1 changelog have it too.
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for deprecation. Improvements
to
the deprecated keyword have been in discussion to improve the situation. e.g.
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/345
And this one: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/248
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Jonathan M Davis, el 11 de julio a las 22:21 me escribiste:
On Tuesday 12 July 2011 01:28:11 Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Jonathan M Davis, el 11 de julio a las 18:15 me escribiste:
Despite the confusing non-standard descriptions in --help, -w is the
Treat warnings as errors setting, so
the point of scheduled for deprectation? I can't really understand
that concept.
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and repository is a different concept in Bazaar, unlike Git and
Mercurial where they are fundamentally the same.
WRONG about Git.
AFAIK only in Darcs branch and repository is the same.
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Kagamin, el 28 de noviembre a las 11:34 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella Wrote:
Make is not a build system, make is a unix tool, it does one thing and
it do it well, and that thing is rebuilding something based on
dependencies.
Being a unix tool means it works only on unix?
I said
, -Os). Basically, you can't
access an object with a type using a pointer to an incompatible type
(except through an union). If is too hard to fix, use
-fno-strict-aliasing when compiling with -O2, -O3 or -Os to inhibit that
optimization.
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Leandro Lucarella, el 24 de noviembre a las 10:46 me escribiste:
Iain Buclaw, el 24 de noviembre a las 01:29 me escribiste:
== Quote from bearophile (bearophileh...@lycos.com)'s article
While compiling GDC2 today I have seen hundreds of warnings, usually one
of 5 types:
I'm rather
pointers
are dereferenced, or fix (quoted because is not really *broken*,
strictly speaking) the code so GCC can optimize it a little better.
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bearophile, el 24 de noviembre a las 12:37 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella:
These are important issues. This can heavily break the code when
compiling with optimizations (-O2, -O3, -Os). Basically, you can't
access an object with a type using a pointer to an incompatible type
I agree
I don't know if it supports D
sources out of the box. (ack: http://betterthangrep.com/)
Best,
Graham
You guys should use zsh.
grep RAND_MAX.*= /usr/include/d/dmd/**/*
Bash (4) does that too :)
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Don, el 23 de noviembre a las 09:06 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Make can be very hard to learn, specially because people tend to use it
wrongly and there are very few good examples and tutorials/docs.
PS: I'm really talking about GMake :)
Gmake != make.
I know, that's why I
Nick Sabalausky, el 23 de noviembre a las 08:54 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella l...@llucax.com.ar wrote in message
news:20101123050406.gj8...@llucax.com.ar...
Nick Sabalausky, el 22 de noviembre a las 12:54 me escribiste:
Manfred_Nowak svv1...@hotmail.com wrote in message
and
it do it well, and that thing is rebuilding something based on
dependencies. Usually Make is a tool to use as a building block when you
need something more complex.
Make is a great tool, just don't ask it to do things it doesn't suppose
to do.
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to learn, specially because people tend to use it
wrongly and there are very few good examples and tutorials/docs.
PS: I'm really talking about GMake :)
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? both?
(I don't have a compiler at hand to try it =P)
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Jonathan M Davis, el 19 de noviembre a las 13:24 me escribiste:
On Friday 19 November 2010 12:39:20 Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Sean Kelly, el 19 de noviembre a las 14:59 me escribiste:
Jonathan M Davis Wrote:
On Friday, November 19, 2010 11:37:16 Sean Kelly wrote:
Jonathan M Davis
in the scripting world, this should be fixed ASAP,
as no scripting language EVER will remove your files unexpectedly.
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the same function.
ie.
auto x = a ? a : b;
auto x = a ? : b;
I think bearophile might have already proposed this?
Yes, the elvis operator ?:
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front page:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/dmd/wiki/WikiStart#Sourceorganization
It's a start...
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a very important
meaning.
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far_data;
}
S* s = null;
s.far_data = 5;
If you are unlucky enough to end up in a valid address. That might not
be a practical example, of course, but theoretically null pointer could
lead to memory corruption.
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cases just to let the compiler please, don't remove
store from this struct.
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that incompatible with immutable seems extremely
silly.
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that, at least for Spirit 1, and for simple things it
looks nice (in the C++ scale), but for real more complex things, the
resulting code is really a mess.
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while I was just learning D, all those new funny
function names...
I'm looking to you, Andrei!!!
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, it wasn't my intention to make it sound like
a bad idea. On the contrary, I think is a good idea, and there are
plenty of other GCC attributes that worth having.
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for inline and other GCC attributes that
seems good for optimizations.
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(as symbol names
invented by Andrei usually are :).
[1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0246/
[2] http://peak.telecommunity.com/protocol_ref/module-protocols.html
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Andrei Alexandrescu, el 16 de octubre a las 08:54 me escribiste:
On 10/16/10 1:35 CDT, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Kagamin, el 15 de octubre a las 17:16 me escribiste:
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
I was talking to Walter about Kenji's adaptTo. We both think it's a very
powerful enabler
tried...
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to ducktype? If you aren't certain if the
object implements a function or not, that's not really duck-typing
either, that's just dynamic typing and in that case, why do you even
bother to specify an interface?
I really don't see a point to it...
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existence
at runtime just because is the only way to do it, but if you want to use
a duck, you *need* to know that the object you're working with *can*
quack().
That doesn't make dynamic typing a bad idea, it can be useful, but
please don't name it ducktype as Andrei suggested.
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Leandro Lucarella, el 8 de octubre a las 01:44 me escribiste:
Denis Koroskin, el 8 de octubre a las 05:14 me escribiste:
I tried using your GC under D2/Windows, and unfortunately it crashes
with Access Violation (I used a version modified by Sean as a
starting point with little changes
, since most of
the usefulness of pragma is language extension) or have a stmpragma and
exppragma to parse differently statement flavor and influencing
pragmas, or something like that.
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, _ = ('tuple', 'of', 'three')
Even then, the _ identifier is not special all :)
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Leandro Lucarella, el 10 de septiembre a las 09:26 me escribiste:
Bernard Helyer, el 10 de septiembre a las 04:49 me escribiste:
Very nice. I've been reading your posts on this with interest.
How much work would be involved in porting this to druntime?
Is hard to tell since I didn't
scanning (well,
there are some other minor optimizations that proved useful).
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(), that takes an extra
parameter to do that:
l = [1, 2, 3]
a, b, c = l # known lenght
a, b = l[:2] # truncation (like l[0..2] in D)
a, b = '1,2,3'.split(',', 1) # get the rest in b (but it will be a string)
car, cdr = l[0], l[1:] # just a little more verbose
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on the same code, so probably not too
much work should be involved.
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://llucax.com.ar/blog/blog/tag/dgc?sort=+date
If you only care about concurrency, you probably want to read just this:
http://llucax.com.ar/blog/blog/tag/cdgc?sort=+date
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(is pretty basic, but without it
things become really hard).
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the new maintainer of this file so please direct any comments,
suggestions, patches my way at jesse.k.phillip...@gmail.com
Very nice, thanks.
Do you know if this will be eventually merged into upstream?
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Jesse Phillips, el 30 de agosto a las 20:22 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella Wrote:
Very nice, thanks.
Do you know if this will be eventually merged into upstream?
The latest version upstream should be 0.18. I will be able to submit
this upstream but I think it is good to have
not convinced the topic is
so black white. There is a lot of discussion about IP because of
digital media, and it's not very clear how the future will be, but I do
think the old model is exhausted (CC and FLOSS making an excellent point
that there are viable alternatives).
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Steven Schveighoffer, el 27 de agosto a las 17:34 me escribiste:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:40:43 -0400, Leandro Lucarella
l...@llucax.com.ar wrote:
Steven Schveighoffer, el 27 de agosto a las 15:03 me escribiste:
No, libraries don't steal, they buy their copies or are given books
that other
it. When someone tried to do it, he just
did (it took some time because of the paperwork needed, because as
retard say, you have to assign the copyright to the FSF to include big
changes, as D support patches was).
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I'll take
manageable. I know you don't like having lots of options in the compiler
either, so I don't expect you to do that either.
Fortunately there are other compilers :)
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/warning, since no symbol in unused is used by user.d.
Do you see any problem with that?
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Walter Bright, el 18 de agosto a las 12:25 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Walter Bright, el 18 de agosto a las 10:08 me escribiste:
bearophile wrote:
Currently in the D2 GC there is no notion of pinned/unpinned class
instances,
but eventually an attribute as @pinned may be added
to it in a portion of memory that is scanned
conservatively.
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Walter Bright, el 19 de agosto a las 13:08 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
With the precise heap scanning patch for DMD the GC can automatically
pin memory, because it has enough information to differentiate between
real pointers and words which types are not really known, so a block
have to
separate declarations from definitions.
And I'm not saying that is an easy to solve problem, I'm just saying
that I agree D doesn't scale well in terms of incremental compilations
for big projects, unless you go against D natural way on doing things.
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automatically writes Makefile dependencies. But that's another topic.
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if we can manage to scan the static data precisely too). Otherwise you
simply just can't move stuff around because you don't know what is
a pointer and what is not (thus you can't update pointer that point to
moved stuff).
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/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4650
Memory leaks will always be possible in D, but I think if the stack is
the only part that should be scanned in conservative mode, they can
greatly be reduced.
This above patch is applied in official version D ?
Not yet, vote up! =)
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that you're looking at very old LLVM documentation,
current release is 2.7 and latest LDC release works with 2.6.
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a point to things
like a macro for a ;.
What about and ? =)
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, you're taking the address of a temporary.
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special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)
^
Note that you're using an ancient compiler.
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..startOfBlock + blockLength ?
You might find this blog posts interesting, they explain in relative
detail how the D's GC works:
http://www.llucax.com.ar/blog/blog/tag/understanding%20the%20current%20gc
(you probably want to read it in reverse order :)
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support semi-precise GC (only the heap
have type information).
[1] http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3463
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the mtime to the same as the original file for
build purposes though (you know you're changing the file in a way it
doesn't really change its semantics, so you might want to avoid
unnecessary recompilation).
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-trivial things ;)
Those regex are non-trivial?
Maybe you're confusing sed statements with regex, in that sed program,
there are 3 trivial regex:
regex replace with
*$ (nothing)
\r$ (nothing)
\r \n
They are the most trivial regex you'd ever find! =)
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Michel Fortin, el 4 de agosto a las 19:26 me escribiste:
On 2010-08-04 17:56:31 -0400, Leandro Lucarella l...@llucax.com.ar said:
I'd say:
dmd
/usr/local/bin
That makes a lot of sense. I agree that /usr/local/{bin,lib,man} is
the right place.
But you can't install dmd1 and dmd2
directorio
$ unzip exe.zip
Archive: exe.zip
extracting: exe
$ ls -l exe
-rwxrwxr-x 1 luca luca 0 2010-08-05 11:01 exe
$
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in
the binary or something, but I never reported the bug because it was
impossible to narrow down to a small test case.
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don't think it would be that
bad either, and the tradeoff of what you gain vs. what you loose will be
probably at large in your favor (at least in the long term) if you
decided to start using LLVM as the backend. Not that I'm expecting you
to do it, I'm just saying :)
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support is different, there's no linker (oops),
etc. It's a much harder job.
Suddenly LLVM Windows support doesn't seem so bad ;)
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. It has limitations (specially on Windows because
of LLVM limitations) but is far from unusable.
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Rory Mcguire, el 4 de agosto a las 12:37 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BCS, el 3 de agosto a las 16:04 me escribiste:
The video is up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlVpPstLPEc
Nice talk, I think the guy that asked what is the biggest application
written in D
Kagamin, el 3 de agosto a las 22:54 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella Wrote:
You might be interested in this thread:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.d.phobos/1468
What's a druntime list?
A mailing list[1] where the topic is Druntime[2] perhaps?
[1] http://lists.puremagic.com
try find my D1 stuff if
you would like it.
If it's D1/Tango, yes, I would be interested. Thank you.
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some deliberately GC-intensive benchmarks done by him,
most notably the voronoi generator[1], which made me sweat[2] more than
once :)
[1] http://codepad.org/xGDCS3KO
[2] http://llucax.com.ar/blog/blog/post/-7a56a111
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Some other references:
FHS: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
LSB: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb (yes,
Linux only)
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bearophile, el 4 de agosto a las 16:25 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella:
Yes, I borrowed some deliberately GC-intensive benchmarks done by him,
most notably the voronoi generator[1], which made me sweat[2] more than
once :)
On my site you can find four other Olden benchmarks:
em3d
tsp
Robert Clipsham, el 4 de agosto a las 22:16 me escribiste:
On 04/08/10 00:18, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BCS, el 3 de agosto a las 16:04 me escribiste:
The video is up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlVpPstLPEc
Nice talk, I think the guy that asked what is the biggest application
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Un camión lleno de
that shows that D compiles 4 times faster
than Go.
I was surprised by that, can you publish what the benchmark was, and
what compilers were used? I tried Go when it came out and it felt faster
than D to compile (which is reasonable because is a much simpler
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with D1 because Dil is the *only*
non-trivial application written in D that I could find, and is D1/Tango.
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Andrei Alexandrescu, el 3 de agosto a las 19:56 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BCS, el 3 de agosto a las 16:04 me escribiste:
The video is up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlVpPstLPEc
Nice talk, I think the guy that asked what is the biggest application
written in D deserved
Andrei Alexandrescu, el 3 de agosto a las 19:48 me escribiste:
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Walter Bright, el 3 de agosto a las 15:08 me escribiste:
bearophile wrote:
At 14.42: You compare the performance of a D compiler with the performance
of
a C++ compiler. But Delphi compiler was/is very
complaining when no symbol from an imported
module is used would be better to avoid extra unneeded dependencies. But
I suggested that before and you don't like it.
Too bad.
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dsimcha, el 3 de agosto a las 02:16 me escribiste:
== Quote from Leandro Lucarella (l...@llucax.com.ar)'s article
With this default, I think complaining when no symbol from an imported
module is used would be better to avoid extra unneeded dependencies. But
I suggested that before and you
patch open the
possibilities of new designs that take better advantage of the type
information.
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/libs/1_42_0/libs/range/index.html
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be
there.
If it's not there, you should linkk the final program agains both
libraries. The way it is now is like phobos2 included all druntime's .o
files on it. I remember some discussion about this (joining phobos and
druntime in the same lib) a while ago...
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).
One more note: I'm working with D1, but using the Tango runtime, so
I guess it should be not to hard to port to D2.
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/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/make.html
(see the OPERANDS section)
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either.
I think this is really the way to go.
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of the application.
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.
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