Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-25 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 25 March 2014 00:12, H. S. Teoh wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: > [...] >> >Sorry, I didn't read this thread about Ramon yet (I'm just going through >> >these posts). I'll look it up now. >> >> Oh you mean this guy?: >> http://forum.dlang.org/post/csusa

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 23:04:16 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: There is a little bit too much elitism IMO. I can't see this anywhere, could you elaborate? I could. >;-} All the major contributors to D are always helpful towards newbies, especially in D.learn. Yes, bearophile, John Colvi

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Corry
I didn't have a problem with most of his posts, but constantly waving around that "windoze" flamebait at every possible opportunity (and then feigning innocence about it) was the real problem. And I'm even saying that as someone who does carry a lot of hatred toward windows (among many other th

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/24/2014 8:12 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: [...] Sorry, I didn't read this thread about Ramon yet (I'm just going through these posts). I'll look it up now. Oh you mean this guy?: http://forum.dlang.org/post/csusavszritzlaqds...@for

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: [...] > >Sorry, I didn't read this thread about Ramon yet (I'm just going through > >these posts). I'll look it up now. > > Oh you mean this guy?: > http://forum.dlang.org/post/csusavszritzlaqds...@forum.dlang.org > > That guy reall

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
on On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 23:06:27 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 23:04:16 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 22:24:46 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 13:31:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: D community is single most friendly

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 23:04:16 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 22:24:46 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 13:31:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: D community is single most friendly and helpful place I have ever seen in the internet. All communitie

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 22:24:46 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 13:31:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: D community is single most friendly and helpful place I have ever seen in the internet. All communities rate themselves that way, I think it is somewhere in the middle

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 13:31:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: D community is single most friendly and helpful place I have ever seen in the internet. All communities rate themselves that way, I think it is somewhere in the middle. Meaning: there is room for improvement. There is a little bit too

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 24 March 2014 at 07:35:20 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I followed the forums lurking at the time. Ramon is/was very enthusiatic about D, and shared that enthusiasm with great force. It is kind of sad when the community does not back up that enthusiasm and direct it in a direction

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 21:42:46 UTC, 1100110 wrote: Tomato, tomato. I just found it slightly amusing that this is where the conversation went, not trying to call anyone or say Yeah, I agree that it is somewhat interesting. I guess it is a topic that is in a way fascinating because it eas

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-23 Thread 1100110
oo late that my message could be interpreted in a way I didn't intend. However, I do question the public slandering of Ramon in a thread about appropriateness of posts. I don't think there is any cultural bias in that. Yeah... I think I would have been ok with that had he been using an

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-23 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
in what is appropriate using racial terms as an example. However, I do question the public slandering of Ramon in a thread about appropriateness of posts. I don't think there is any cultural bias in that.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-23 Thread 1100110
I just want to point out that somehow the thread about how we need to maintain a professional attitude in the forums deteriorated into discussing in depth racism. We literally couldn't have picked a better thread to highjack. =P

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-20 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 05:35:53 -0400, Chris wrote: On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 23:18:55 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Sometimes, the only way to win is to not play. T +1. You should add this to your list of quotes. -WOPR, War Games

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-20 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 07:51:06 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: I find that interesting. This is the first I've ever heard of "caucasian" being even potentially offensive. Well, I am not offended by the term, I dislike it. I am offended by having to provide racial information. I am not sur

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-20 Thread Chris
On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 23:18:55 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Sometimes, the only way to win is to not play. T +1. You should add this to your list of quotes.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:41:26PM +, Iain Buclaw wrote: > On 19 March 2014 19:43, Meta wrote: > > On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 17:43:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > >> > >> Same here. I do remember that wasn't the peak of it. That happened > >> when I tried to explain something as a "c

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 19 March 2014 19:43, Meta wrote: > On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 17:43:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: >> >> Same here. I do remember that wasn't the peak of it. That happened when I >> tried to explain something as a "cultural difference". Probably it was taken >> as "cultural inferiority/

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Walter Bright
On 3/19/2014 12:43 PM, Meta wrote: There was the whole "windoze" debacle with him as well. The "windoze" thing was tired and old in 1990. So was Micro$oft.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Meta
On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 17:43:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Same here. I do remember that wasn't the peak of it. That happened when I tried to explain something as a "cultural difference". Probably it was taken as "cultural inferiority/superiority". Andrei More like feigned idio

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread deadalnix
On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 17:43:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Same here. I do remember that wasn't the peak of it. That happened when I tried to explain something as a "cultural difference". Probably it was taken as "cultural inferiority/superiority". Andrei Talk about projection.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/19/14, 10:13 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:01:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: snip Heh, case in point - there was a gentleman going by "Ramon" at a point in this forum who flew off the handle taking offense at something I said (no idea what exactly that was)

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:07:54 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Of course, if I want get *really* pedantic, I'm not certain if those are actual "majorities" (ie >50%) or simply just the largest (erm, I mean most numerous) ethnic groups. But I don't want to get that pedantic ;) The word you ar

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Craig Dillabaugh
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:01:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: snip Heh, case in point - there was a gentleman going by "Ramon" at a point in this forum who flew off the handle taking offense at something I said (no idea what exactly that was). "Destroy" was the offending expression

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Chris
On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 13:08:00 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/19/2014 6:08 AM, Chris wrote: On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 07:51:06 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: [...] even though "white" is still used all the time anyway and I've never seen anyone get offended. QED. "white" has no

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/19/2014 6:08 AM, Chris wrote: On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 07:51:06 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: [...] even though "white" is still used all the time anyway and I've never seen anyone get offended. QED. "white" has no negative connotations simply because the majority of people are white.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Chris
On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 07:51:06 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: But "black" and "white" are less clear. Ever since the US civil rights movement, "colored" has become accepted as a term that "you just don't say" (despite still being used as the "C" in the NAACP, confusingly enough). So "bl

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/18/2014 12:20 PM, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" " wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 23:02:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: People see that software development is predominately male, and they assume "Oh, it *MUST* be because those EVIL, SEXIST men are TRYING to keep women out!" That genuinely pisses

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/18/2014 10:24 AM, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" " wrote: However, I am upset about the widespread US term "caucasian", not because it is a bad word, but because of the Aryan connotations that has some seriously bad vibes to it after 2WW and the nazi worship of "scandinavian genes". The term "cauca

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 23:02:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: People see that software development is predominately male, and they assume "Oh, it *MUST* be because those EVIL, SEXIST men are TRYING to keep women out!" That genuinely pisses me off, what the hell is this, 1920? When people act

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread 1100110
On 3/17/14, 18:02, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/17/2014 6:33 PM, deadalnix wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:15:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should Pervasive sexism in programm

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread 1100110
On 3/17/14, 16:50, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" " wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:14:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude. I don't see your point. That only work on a very superficial level. You cannot expect a chinese girl to appreciate b

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Tuesday, 18 March 2014 at 13:05:31 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: I think the issue there probably isn't so much "offense", but the fact that american discussion of politics is notoriously volatile, and in a mixed-group is pretty much guaranteed to erupt in a flame war. Well, it was right aft

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/18/2014 7:53 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: If this guy comes back, you may want to have a talk with him, then. He might have got the wrong impression from you. http://forum.dlang.org/post/gnc2ml$14ch$1...@digitalmars.com Heh, oh man. I don't know about anyone else, but it was the leet

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/18/2014 9:05 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/18/2014 2:59 AM, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" " wrote: I was once told in game chat by a US player that I could not use the term "shit" because it was such an offensive word. I was surprised. In scandinavia the word is so mild it basically means "ouch"

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/18/2014 2:59 AM, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" " wrote: I was once told not to bring up politics (George Bush) in casual game chat by a US player, because it might be taken as offensive by someone. I found that shocking. I think the issue there probably isn't so much "offense", but the fact tha

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:26:08 -0400, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 10:03 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: I agree that this community doesn't seem unhealthy; and also that, in general, sex jokes aren't necessarily a sign of sexism. But I also think it's smart to establish a wide margin on com

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:12:14 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: American broadcast standards have nothing to do with american culture, they're famously disconnected. That's the problem with them and (I assume) what Ola was pointing out: Try not to offend anyone (as the FCC implicitly forces br

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-18 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 17 March 2014 21:01, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > On 3/17/14, 11:49 AM, John Colvin wrote: >> >> On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:18:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:09:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 3:45 AM, sclytrack wrote: > >Seems

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Asman01
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:47:07 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age people lose their sense of humor. I don't think so. And I do agree to Walter.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 12:03 AM, Walter Bright wrote: I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jokes that continued even after I asked it be stopped. FWIW, either I completely missed the posts with the locker room jokes, or else the problem was that none of the authors of

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 7:02 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: ...people with more many and self-importance... s/many/money/ Every notice how typos are significantly more embarrassing in a rant? ;)

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 6:45 PM, Araq wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:33:40 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:15:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should Pervasive sexism

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 6:49 PM, bearophile wrote: Nick Sabalausky: That categorizational difficulty only exists because "porn" and "erotic art" realistically *are* the same thing, the only difference is the speaker's positive/negative spin and the compulsion of certain factions in the art world to feel e

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:56:21 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:53:48 UTC, John Colvin wrote: I'm not sure if it's an argument, more an observation... Nonetheless, please do enlighten :) "I am against offending people at all costs, so I'd better call that guy a jerk be

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 6:33 PM, deadalnix wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:15:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should Pervasive sexism in programming? What a complete crock of shit. And a

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:53:48 UTC, John Colvin wrote: I'm not sure if it's an argument, more an observation... Nonetheless, please do enlighten :) "I am against offending people at all costs, so I'd better call that guy a jerk because he think differently"

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:13:17 UTC, Araq wrote: From my personal experience in the UK, It's a pretty good indicator. Not exclusively, but perhaps 80% of the time. If only you would understand how ironic your argument is. I'm not sure if it's an argument, more an observation... Nonethel

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread bearophile
Nick Sabalausky: That categorizational difficulty only exists because "porn" and "erotic art" realistically *are* the same thing, the only difference is the speaker's positive/negative spin and the compulsion of certain factions in the art world to feel ethically insulated from the works of t

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Araq
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:33:40 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:15:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should Pervasive sexism in programming? What a complete c

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 2:31 PM, Walter Bright wrote: The difference between porn and art has defied all attempts at writing a bureaucratic rule defining it, yet we all know which is which when we see it. That categorizational difficulty only exists because "porn" and "erotic art" realistically *are* t

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread deadalnix
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:15:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should Pervasive sexism in programming? What a complete crock of shit. And all these pull request we rejected becau

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 5:00 PM, Araq wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:15:52 UTC, Wyatt wrote: Good. If "not being a jerk" is such an onerous burden, their influence is almost certain to be harmful to the community in the long-term. Ah so "being fed up with politicial correctness" is now the same a

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should Pervasive sexism in programming? What a complete crock of shit.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:29:59 UTC, John Colvin wrote: From my personal experience in the UK, It's a pretty good indicator. UK is a class society, US is a melting pot. In order to prevent eruptions if discontent an conflict you developed a careful politness as safe guards (which somtime

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Araq
From my personal experience in the UK, It's a pretty good indicator. Not exclusively, but perhaps 80% of the time. If only you would understand how ironic your argument is.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On 3/17/2014 5:14 PM, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:13:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: So basically everybody adapts to american broadcast standards? You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude. American broadcast standards have nothing to do with

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:14:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude. I don't see your point. That only work on a very superficial level. You cannot expect a chinese girl to appreciate being kissed on the street by her boyfriend, even

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread deadalnix
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:01:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: One can argue that it's all relative but that's rather ineffective. The reality is I do work at Facebook with people from all over the globe and though cultural adaptation is on rare occasions an issue, it's never been conside

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:00:08 UTC, Araq wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:15:52 UTC, Wyatt wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 19:29:10 UTC, Araq wrote: Yeah but it can also discourage the many people who are fed up with political correctness. Good. If "not being a jerk" is such a

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:01:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: One can argue that it's all relative but that's rather ineffective. The reality is I do work at Facebook with people from all over the globe and though cultural adaptation is on rare occasions an issue, it's never been conside

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:13:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: So basically everybody adapts to american broadcast standards? A fun book: The Hidden Dimension by Edward T. Hall You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/17/14, 11:49 AM, John Colvin wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:18:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:09:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 3:45 AM, sclytrack wrote: Seems like Walter wants it seriously professional. No joking around about D. Jokes are

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Araq
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:15:52 UTC, Wyatt wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 19:29:10 UTC, Araq wrote: Yeah but it can also discourage the many people who are fed up with political correctness. Good. If "not being a jerk" is such an onerous burden, their influence is almost certain to

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:04:37 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Exercising good judgement and common sense is all I ask. By my common sense and good judgement that thread was perfectly OK and I am honestly offended by the fact that someone does not consider my cultural preferences normal in th

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread deadalnix
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:18:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:09:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 3:45 AM, sclytrack wrote: Seems like Walter wants it seriously professional. No joking around about D. Jokes are fine. I post plenty myself. Jokes are fin

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:04:37 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 11:49 AM, John Colvin wrote: As I mentioned in my post below, almost anything is offensive to someone, somewhere. You won't find a unified view of "Inappropriate" even among a very homogenous group of people, let alone

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Jesse Phillips
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:14:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote: I cannot think of any case where restricting discussions of sex will restrict anyone's ability to write code in D or talk about the language's development. I thank Walter for keeping these forums focused. It would be really hard to re

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread bachmeier
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:49:07 UTC, John Colvin wrote: As I mentioned in my post below, almost anything is offensive to someone, somewhere. You won't find a unified view of "Inappropriate" even among a very homogenous group of people, let alone an ad hoc group of collaborators and users

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Wyatt
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 19:29:10 UTC, Araq wrote: Yeah but it can also discourage the many people who are fed up with political correctness. Good. If "not being a jerk" is such an onerous burden, their influence is almost certain to be harmful to the community in the long-term. -Wyatt

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread bachmeier
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 19:29:10 UTC, Araq wrote: The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should be addressed wherever it's found. If keeping sex jokes out of an otherwise-professional forum will encourage even one keen developer to stay a while longer in D space,

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Walter Bright
On 3/17/2014 11:49 AM, John Colvin wrote: As I mentioned in my post below, almost anything is offensive to someone, somewhere. You won't find a unified view of "Inappropriate" even among a very homogenous group of people, let alone an ad hoc group of collaborators and users spanning the entire gl

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Araq
The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should be addressed wherever it's found. If keeping sex jokes out of an otherwise-professional forum will encourage even one keen developer to stay a while longer in D space, then that's a tremendously small price to pay for an in

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:18:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:09:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 3:45 AM, sclytrack wrote: Seems like Walter wants it seriously professional. No joking around about D. Jokes are fine. I post plenty myself. Jokes are fin

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Walter Bright
On 3/17/2014 3:55 AM, Rikki Cattermole wrote: Perhaps we need to create a community standard guidelines related to this? The difference between porn and art has defied all attempts at writing a bureaucratic rule defining it, yet we all know which is which when we see it. I.e. just use good j

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Walter Bright
On 3/17/2014 10:03 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote: I agree that this community doesn't seem unhealthy; and also that, in general, sex jokes aren't necessarily a sign of sexism. But I also think it's smart to establish a wide margin on community practice. Correcting small, potentially harmful behaviours

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 18:09:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/17/2014 3:45 AM, sclytrack wrote: Seems like Walter wants it seriously professional. No joking around about D. Jokes are fine. I post plenty myself. Jokes are fine in a professional work environment. Inappropriate jok

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Walter Bright
On 3/17/2014 3:45 AM, sclytrack wrote: Seems like Walter wants it seriously professional. No joking around about D. Jokes are fine. I post plenty myself. Jokes are fine in a professional work environment. Inappropriate jokes are not. This shouldn't be a mystery.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Graham Fawcett
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 16:09:34 UTC, John Colvin wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 15:50:12 UTC, Graham Fawcett wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:47:07 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age peopl

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 15:50:12 UTC, Graham Fawcett wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:47:07 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age people lose their sense of humor. The pervasive sexism in our pro

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Graham Fawcett
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:47:07 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age people lose their sense of humor. Obviously they don't. A forum moderator has a duty of care that supersedes his or her personal

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread monarch_dodra
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:47:07 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age people lose their sense of humor. Well that's uncalled for. Plus, he does have a sense of humor. My guess is he mistook the "quo

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread John Colvin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:47:07 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age people lose their sense of humor. I think that's a little unkind. Nonetheless, I didn't really see anything particularly problem

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Rikki Cattermole
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:31:54 UTC, Namespace wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 09:18:43 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Walter Bright wrote: I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jokes that continued even after I asked it be stopped. Where?

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Namespace
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:46:47 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:31:54 UTC, Namespace wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 09:18:43 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Walter Bright wrote: I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jo

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Maxim Fomin
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:31:54 UTC, Namespace wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 09:18:43 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Walter Bright wrote: I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jokes that continued even after I asked it be stopped. Where?

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 3/17/14, Namespace wrote: > I think he means the "dlang.sexy" thread. I guess at a certain age people lose their sense of humor.

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread sclytrack
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 10:31:54 UTC, Namespace wrote: On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 09:18:43 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Walter Bright wrote: I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jokes that continued even after I asked it be stopped. Where?

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Namespace
On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 09:18:43 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/17/14, Walter Bright wrote: I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jokes that continued even after I asked it be stopped. Where? Any specific threads? I think he means the "dlang.sexy" th

Re: Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-17 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 3/17/14, Walter Bright wrote: > I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room > jokes > that continued even after I asked it be stopped. Where? Any specific threads?

Appropriateness of posts

2014-03-16 Thread Walter Bright
I'd hoped I'd never have to post this. There have been some locker room jokes that continued even after I asked it be stopped. Perhaps what I wrote was missed, so I'm elevating this to its own thread. Please regard this forum as a professional work environment as to appropriateness of postings