On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 08:50:16 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 06:59:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 6/8/15 8:26 PM, Ilya Yaroshenko wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only
On 2015-06-08 05:53, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I've been humoring the idea of porting my engine to D. It's about 15
years of development, better/cleaner than most proprietary engines
I've used at game studios.
Perhaps you could try using magicport.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 6/8/15 8:26 PM, Ilya Yaroshenko wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have better
marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the rest
out of the sky.
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 03:53:52 UTC, Manu wrote:
I've been humoring the idea of porting my engine to D. It's
about 15
years of development, better/cleaner than most proprietary
engines
I've used at game studios.
I wonder if there would be interest in this? Problem is, I need
all
the cross
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 03:26:25 UTC, Ilya Yaroshenko wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 08:50:16 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
I don't think this is quite the right approach.
Multidimensional arrays and matrices are about accessing and
iteration over data, not data structures themselves. The
standard layouts are common special cases.
Yes, I really want to D
Ilya, I'm very interested in discussing this further with you.
I have a reasonable idea and implementation of how I would want
the generic n-dimensional types in D to work, but you seem to
have more experience with BLAS and LAPACK than me* and of
course interfacing with them is critical.
I believe that Phobos must support some common methods of
linear algebra and general mathematics. I have no desire to
join D with Fortran libraries :)
D definitely needs BLAS API support for matrix multiplication.
Best BLAS libraries are written in assembler like openBLAS.
Otherwise D will
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 15:26:43 UTC, Ilya Yaroshenko wrote:
D definitely needs BLAS API support for matrix multiplication.
Best BLAS libraries are written in assembler like openBLAS.
Otherwise D will have last position in corresponding math
benchmarks.
Yes, those programs on D, is
On 10 June 2015 at 01:26, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
I believe that Phobos must support some common methods of linear algebra
and general mathematics. I have no desire to join D with Fortran libraries
:)
D definitely needs BLAS API support for
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:18:06 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 01:26, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
I believe that Phobos must support some common methods of
linear algebra
and general mathematics. I have no desire to join D with
Fortran
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:08:40 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 6/9/15 1:50 AM, John Colvin wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 06:59:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
(a) Provide standard data layouts in std.array for the
typical shapes
supported by linear algebra libs: row major,
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:45:33 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 02:32, John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:18:06 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 01:26, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 6/9/15 1:50 AM, John Colvin wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 06:59:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
(a) Provide standard data layouts in std.array for the typical shapes
supported by linear algebra libs: row major, column major, alongside
with striding primitives.
I don't think this is
On 10 June 2015 at 02:17, Manu turkey...@gmail.com wrote:
... If we defined the properties along with their properties ...
*operators* along with their properties
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:14:24 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
To solve these problems you need something like Blas. Perhaps
BLAS - it's more practical way to enrich D techniques for
working with matrices.
Actually, that's what you need to realize in D:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:18:06 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 01:26, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
I believe that Phobos must support some common methods of
linear algebra and general mathematics. I have no desire to
join D with Fortran
On 10 June 2015 at 02:32, John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:18:06 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 01:26, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
I believe that Phobos must support some common
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:16:39 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:14:24 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
To solve these problems you need something like Blas. Perhaps
BLAS - it's more practical way to enrich D techniques for
working with matrices.
Actually, that's what
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:40:56 UTC, Ilya Yaroshenko wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:18:06 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 01:26, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
I believe that Phobos must support some common methods of
linear algebra
and
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 17:19:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 6/9/15 9:16 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:14:24 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
To solve these problems you need something like Blas. Perhaps
BLAS -
it's more practical way to enrich D techniques for
On 6/9/15 11:42 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
And finally `std.bigint` offers good (but not outstanding) performance.
BigInt should use reference counting. Its current approach to allocating
new memory for everything is a liability. Could someone file a report
for this please. -- Andrei
On 6/9/15 9:16 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 16:14:24 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
To solve these problems you need something like Blas. Perhaps BLAS -
it's more practical way to enrich D techniques for working with matrices.
Actually, that's what you need to realize in
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 18:58:56 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 6/9/15 11:42 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
And finally `std.bigint` offers good (but not outstanding)
performance.
BigInt should use reference counting. Its current approach to
allocating new memory for everything is a
On 6/9/15 2:59 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 6/9/15 11:42 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
And finally `std.bigint` offers good (but not outstanding) performance.
BigInt should use reference counting. Its current approach to allocating
new memory for everything is a liability. Could someone file
On 6/9/15 1:53 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/9/15 2:59 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 6/9/15 11:42 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
And finally `std.bigint` offers good (but not outstanding)
performance.
BigInt should use reference counting. Its current approach to allocating
new memory
On 6/9/15 12:21 PM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 18:58:56 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 6/9/15 11:42 AM, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
And finally `std.bigint` offers good (but not outstanding)
performance.
BigInt should use reference counting. Its current approach to
On 9 June 2015 at 17:32, Joakim via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 03:53:52 UTC, Manu wrote:
I've been humoring the idea of porting my engine to D. It's about 15
years of development, better/cleaner than most proprietary engines
I've used at game
On 6/7/2015 8:53 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I've been humoring the idea of porting my engine to D. It's about 15
years of development, better/cleaner than most proprietary engines
I've used at game studios.
I wonder if there would be interest in this? Problem is, I need all
the cross
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 03:08:46 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
Gl3n should be a candidate as it is old code and good one at
that.
https://github.com/Dav1dde/gl3n
But it seems like it is no longer maintained.
Looks like it's been getting a couple commits monthly, so I think
it's being
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:34:56 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:22:56 UTC, Mike wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:21:45 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
Personally I would just be happy with a d wrapper for
something like freeimage being included.
That's what Deimos is
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
Automatic randomizer for builtins, ranges, etc. Used to generate
data for tests.
Here's a start:
https://github.com/nordlow/justd/blob/master/random_ex.d
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On 8/06/2015 4:05 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:54, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 3:48 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:08, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com
On 8/06/2015 4:34 p.m., Tofu Ninja wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:22:56 UTC, Mike wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:21:45 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
Personally I would just be happy with a d wrapper for something like
freeimage being included.
That's what Deimos is for
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:22:56 UTC, Mike wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:21:45 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
Personally I would just be happy with a d wrapper for
something like freeimage being included.
That's what Deimos is for
(https://github.com/D-Programming-Deimos/FreeImage).
Mike
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:22:56 UTC, Mike wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:21:45 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
Personally I would just be happy with a d wrapper for
something like freeimage being included.
That's what Deimos is for
(https://github.com/D-Programming-Deimos/FreeImage).
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
I
On 8/06/2015 3:53 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:15, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have better
marketing.
As
On 8/06/2015 4:12 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:59, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 3:53 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:15, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:05:23 UTC, Manu wrote:
Yeah, that's fine. Is there an initiative for a phobos image
library?
I have said before that I'm dubious about it's worth; the
trouble with
an image library is that it will be almost impossible to decide
on
API, whereas a colour is fairly
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 04:21:45 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
Personally I would just be happy with a d wrapper for something
like freeimage being included.
That's what Deimos is for
(https://github.com/D-Programming-Deimos/FreeImage).
Mike
On 8 June 2015 at 13:08, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 2:50 p.m., Tofu Ninja wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have better
marketing.
As
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 03:48:14 UTC, Manu wrote:
I've kinda just been working on it on the side for my own use.
I wasn't happy with the layout, and restructured it a lot.
If there's an active demand for it, I'll give it top
priority...?
I'm interested in this library as well.
Mike
On 8/06/2015 2:50 p.m., Tofu Ninja wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have better
marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the rest
out of the sky.
On 8 June 2015 at 13:15, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have better
marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and
On 8/06/2015 3:48 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:08, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 2:50 p.m., Tofu Ninja wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of
On 8 June 2015 at 13:54, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 3:48 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:08, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 2:50 p.m., Tofu Ninja wrote:
On
On 8 June 2015 at 13:59, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On 8/06/2015 3:53 p.m., Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 8 June 2015 at 13:15, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner
On Sunday, 7 June 2015 at 18:27:16 UTC, Robert burner Schadek
wrote:
Phobos is awesome, the libs of go, python and rust only have
better marketing.
As discussed on dconf, phobos needs to become big and blow the
rest out of the sky.
http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP80
lets get OT, please discuss
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 00:05:58 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
I actively avoid adding phobos libs to my projects because it
bloats my binaries and increases compile times by massive
amounts.
Me too... but that's not actually a problem of huge library. It
is more a problem of an interconnected
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 00:05:58 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
can we discuss the downside of making phobos huge?
I actively avoid adding phobos libs to my projects because it
bloats my binaries and increases compile times by massive
amounts.
Andrei has already stated that we are definitely going
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 01:39:33 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 00:05:58 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
can we discuss the downside of making phobos huge?
I actively avoid adding phobos libs to my projects because it
bloats my binaries and increases compile times by massive
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