Andrei Alexandrescu дµ½:
> Jason House wrote:
> > Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
> >
> >> Jason House wrote:
> >>> BCS wrote:
> >>>
> Hello Jason,
>
> > Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
> > port to D2? I'm mostly thinking of Tango, but I bet there
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
grauzone wrote:
* std.mmfile: integrate with the garbage collector. It should be
there.
Why should the GC know about it?
To add: in all sane situations, the mmaped region won't contain any
pointers, and the GC doesn't have to scan it. Allocating address space
is
Michel Fortin wrote:
> ...
>
> A callback API isn't necessarily SAX. A callback API doesn't necessarily
> have to parse everything until completion, it could parse only the next
> token and call the appropriate callback.
When I talk "callback api," I mean something fundamentally like SAX.
The r
On 2009-05-24 03:22:47 -0400, Daniel Keep said:
Callbacks are "easier" to set up, but are incredibly complicated for any
sort of structured parsing. The problem is that you can't easily change
the behaviour of the parser once it's started.
I had to write a SAX parser for a structured data for
Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2009-05-23 01:25:49 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
> said:
>
>> * std.xml: replace with something that moves faster than molasses.
>
> I started to write an XML parser using D1 and a pseudo-range
> implementation a little while ago, but never finished it. (I was
> undecid
On 2009-05-23 01:25:49 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
said:
* std.xml: replace with something that moves faster than molasses.
I started to write an XML parser using D1 and a pseudo-range
implementation a little while ago, but never finished it. (I was
undecided about the API, and that somewha
Denis Koroskin wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 22:20:14 +0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
* std.socket, std.socketstream: We need a real networking library.
what would it do on top of what that does?
I haven't studied it, but Walter said he doesn't like it and I trust
him. Anyhow, we'd need
On Sat, 23 May 2009 22:20:14 +0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
* std.socket, std.socketstream: We need a real networking library.
what would it do on top of what that does?
I haven't studied it, but Walter said he doesn't like it and I trust
him. Anyhow, we'd need to create at least ful
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
But ranges aren't everything, Georg :o).
:-)
std.dtl
std.pattern
(hoped that a least the singleton made it to the moon )
Björn
bearophile, el 23 de mayo a las 14:12 me escribiste:
> Andrei Alexandrescu:
> >Some of them may be dropped.<
>
> My suggestion, for D2, is to assume all minimally serious D2 programmers will
> have both Phobos2 and Tango2 installed.
> So Phobos can contain core functionality and Tango the utiliti
Walter Bright wrote:
Christopher Wright wrote:
Walter would say that the number of bug reports for a compiler is an
indication of its popularity.
Yes, I would say that (!)
In fact, you did say that!
Hello Andrei,
BCS wrote:
Hello Andrei,
* std.date: unnecessarily clunky and low-level. Also, somehow Walter
thinks that std.dateparse has absolutely nothing to do with date.
My company has this little project that I wrote in c#:
http://precisionsoftware.blogspot.com/2009/03/natural-langua
BCS wrote:
Hello Andrei,
* std.date: unnecessarily clunky and low-level. Also, somehow Walter
thinks that std.dateparse has absolutely nothing to do with date.
My company has this little project that I wrote in c#:
http://precisionsoftware.blogspot.com/2009/03/natural-language-net-date-parse
Andrei Alexandrescu:
>Some of them may be dropped.<
My suggestion, for D2, is to assume all minimally serious D2 programmers will
have both Phobos2 and Tango2 installed.
So Phobos can contain core functionality and Tango the utilities, higher level
things, more data structures, etc, reducing the
Hello Andrei,
grauzone wrote:
Because the only way to make memory-mapped files safe is to have the
GC handle them.
Care to explain?
mmhandle h = mapFile("test.txt");
char[] x = cast(char[]) h.ptr;
h.unmapFile;
Any attempt to use x will crash the program. So it's the gc who needs
to unmap f
Hello Andrei,
* std.date: unnecessarily clunky and low-level. Also, somehow Walter
thinks that std.dateparse has absolutely nothing to do with date.
My company has this little project that I wrote in c#:
http://precisionsoftware.blogspot.com/2009/03/natural-language-net-date-parser.html
Woul
Christopher Wright wrote:
Walter would say that the number of bug reports for a compiler is an
indication of its popularity.
Yes, I would say that (!)
== Quote from Christopher Wright (dhase...@gmail.com)'s article
> Brad Roberts wrote:
> > Don wrote:
> >> bearophile wrote:
> >>> Andrei Alexandrescu:
> there's been a sharp increase in bug reports and patches recently.
> Walter and I are still scratching our head over that (it's not like
Jason House wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
grauzone wrote:
How about giving these up to Tango? The only problem is, it has not
been ported to D2 yet.
That's not an option.
Licensing reasons? Not-Invented-Here-Syndrome? You love reinventing the
wheel?
Licensing and the love for reading sn
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> grauzone wrote:
How about giving these up to Tango? The only problem is, it has not
been ported to D2 yet.
>>>
>>> That's not an option.
>>
>> Licensing reasons? Not-Invented-Here-Syndrome? You love reinventing the
>> wheel?
>
> Licensing and the love for r
Would it be a good idea to transcribe this list onto a "Phobos Help Wanted"
page?
I'm thinking they should be categorized into 4 basic categories.
Theoretically, as time goes on higher numbered items should be convertible
to lower numbered items.
1. Pure library work
-> Should include basi
grauzone wrote:
* std.mmfile: integrate with the garbage collector. It should be there.
Why should the GC know about it?
To add: in all sane situations, the mmaped region won't contain any
pointers, and the GC doesn't have to scan it. Allocating address space
is already done by the OS. Free
On Sat, 23 May 2009 17:33:10 +0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
* std.xml: replace with something that moves faster than molasses.
* std.zip: rewrite
> * std.socket, std.socketstream: We need a real networking library.
> * std.md5: we should add more such encryption devices.
> * std.base64:
* std.mmfile: integrate with the garbage collector. It should be there.
Why should the GC know about it?
To add: in all sane situations, the mmaped region won't contain any
pointers, and the GC doesn't have to scan it. Allocating address space
is already done by the OS. Freeing the mmaped re
grauzone wrote:
* std.bind: eliminate?
Unneeded, because D2 has real closures. (That modules still make a lot
of sense in D1, but now it's only a collection of awkward template hacks.)
* std.metastrings: I hate the name. Merge into std.string using ctfe
Sounds like fun. I hope you'll prov
* std.bind: eliminate?
Unneeded, because D2 has real closures. (That modules still make a lot
of sense in D1, but now it's only a collection of awkward template hacks.)
* std.metastrings: I hate the name. Merge into std.string using ctfe
Sounds like fun. I hope you'll provide Walter with s
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> ...
>
> * std.base64: doesn't deserve a separate module
The joys of a flat module hierarchy: it has to go *somewhere*. :P
> ...
>
> * std.conv: define operations to stream data out and in in binary and
> text formats.
What do you mean by "stream data"? Are we t
Brad Roberts wrote:
Don wrote:
bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
there's been a sharp increase in bug reports and patches recently.
Walter and I are still scratching our head over that (it's not like
dmd got much crappier overnight). I can only infer that more people
have started using mo
Brad Roberts wrote:
Don wrote:
bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
there's been a sharp increase in bug reports and patches recently.
Walter and I are still scratching our head over that (it's not like
dmd got much crappier overnight). I can only infer that more people
have started using mo
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> Jason House wrote:
>>
>> Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
>>
>>> Jason House wrote:
BCS wrote:
> Hello Jason,
>
>> Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
>> port to D2? I'm mostly th
Brad Roberts wrote:
Don wrote:
bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
there's been a sharp increase in bug reports and patches recently.
Walter and I are still scratching our head over that (it's not like
dmd got much crappier overnight). I can only infer that more people
have started using mo
Jason House wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
Jason House wrote:
BCS wrote:
Hello Jason,
Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
port to D2? I'm mostly thinking of Tango, but I bet there are others.
It may even be good if major libraries could use a Phobos-compa
Don wrote:
> bearophile wrote:
>> Andrei Alexandrescu:
>>> there's been a sharp increase in bug reports and patches recently.
>>> Walter and I are still scratching our head over that (it's not like
>>> dmd got much crappier overnight). I can only infer that more people
>>> have started using more o
bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
there's been a sharp
increase in bug reports and patches recently. Walter and I are still
scratching our head over that (it's not like dmd got much crappier
overnight). I can only infer that more people have started using more of D.
I think it's mostly
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
> Jason House wrote:
> > BCS wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Jason,
> >>
> >>> Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
> >>> port to D2? I'm mostly thinking of Tango, but I bet there are others.
> >>> It may even be good if major libraries could use a
Andrei Alexandrescu:
> there's been a sharp
> increase in bug reports and patches recently. Walter and I are still
> scratching our head over that (it's not like dmd got much crappier
> overnight). I can only infer that more people have started using more of D.
I think it's mostly a complex con
Jason House wrote:
BCS wrote:
Hello Jason,
Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
port to D2? I'm mostly thinking of Tango, but I bet there are others.
It may even be good if major libraries could use a Phobos-compatible
license and become part of the releases by
Robert Clipsham wrote:
> My main thought is that this is a bit early to be thinking about this.
> D2 is still in alpha, with lots of feature and bug changes in each
> release. Until its feature set begins to settle I don't think it is too
> important to think about how to manage a release.
I get
BCS wrote:
> Hello Jason,
>
>> Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
>> port to D2? I'm mostly thinking of Tango, but I bet there are others.
>> It may even be good if major libraries could use a Phobos-compatible
>> license and become part of the releases by digital
dsimcha wrote:
> == Quote from Jason House (jason.james.ho...@gmail.com)'s article
>> Andrei has indicated that the current plan is to finalize D2 when his
>> book comes
> out.
>> Given this, I'm interested in what _community_ activity should be done as
>> part
> of this.
>> Should there be a form
Jason House wrote:
Andrei has indicated that the current plan is to finalize D2 when his
book comes out.
Given this, I'm interested in what _community_ activity should be
done as part of this.
Should there be a formal review and polishing of the D spec? More
than just criticizing faults, people
Hello Jason,
Should the final freezing of D2 be delayed until major D1 libraries
port to D2? I'm mostly thinking of Tango, but I bet there are others.
It may even be good if major libraries could use a Phobos-compatible
license and become part of the releases by digital mars.
Maybe it should b
== Quote from Jason House (jason.james.ho...@gmail.com)'s article
> Andrei has indicated that the current plan is to finalize D2 when his book
> comes
out.
> Given this, I'm interested in what _community_ activity should be done as part
of this.
> Should there be a formal review and polishing of t
Andrei has indicated that the current plan is to finalize D2 when his book
comes out.
Given this, I'm interested in what _community_ activity should be done as part
of this.
Should there be a formal review and polishing of the D spec? More than just
criticizing faults, people should submit pa
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