Re: [digitalradio] Test in Packet

2007-02-22 Thread Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB)
Jose A. Amador wrote: > > Misko, > > You need a JNOS executable compiled for a 286. I did so some 9 years ago > and had my JNOS versions for DOS custom compiled. You need some Borland > compiler, I used BC 3 back then. > Hello Jose, tnx for reply. Well I managed to get various installation t

[digitalradio] Re: 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread expeditionradio
> John VE5MU wrote: > > The logic of setting this up with an ALE frequency basically > on top of the beacons is competely without merit, > and based on the distorted notion that all hams possess the > very latest in gear to filter out an ALE TX adjacent to > the beacon frequency. Dear John,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
I was able to work Jose briefly on 20M earlier today Can't hear anything tonight since we have a cold front with snow moving through, and just high static levels on 80M Will try 20M in the AM 14109.5 vfo, and maybe 80 tomorrow night. great to see a few folks trying this mode out John VE

[digitalradio] Re: ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Also copied alot of data frames from you tonight on 3.587 +1500 HZ AF, USBnice signal Jose. 73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Jose A. Amador" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found him on 14109.5 kHz dial QRG + 1500 Hz AF, USB. > > Jose, CO2JA > > > > > > > _

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread Danny Douglas
OK I guess that makes sense to me also. The only thing is that I normally do NOT listen to beacons with a narrow filter. I tune across the bands with the wide filter, as it is easier to hear stations and then after I hear them, and discover I want to work them, I throw the narrow filter on. Its

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
The logic of setting this up with an ALE frequency basically on top of the beacons is competely without merit, and based on the distorted notion that all hams possess the very latest in gear to filter out an ALE TX adjacent to the beacon frequency. That might have some truth in the developed c

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread Danny Douglas
??? Why are they unfound Bonnie? The beacons are used by a multitude to see what is coming in, in the world. With inteference that close, are they going to be useable? Certainly, at least for now, there are going to be many less ALE users than people listening for beacons. With the many digit

[digitalradio] Re: 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
Bonnie's detailed explanation looked reasonable to me. I often use the NCDXF propagation beacons and have rarely heard them QRM'd by digital signals. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In other words Tony, despite decades

[digitalradio] Re: 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In other words Tony, despite decades of tradition of having the CW beacons on 14100, the ALE users don't give a rat's butt for anyone except a small number > of ALE users. > > and the only reason they are doing this i

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
In other words Tony, despite decades of tradition of having the CW beacons on 14100, the ALE users don't give a rat's butt for anyone except a small number of ALE users. and the only reason they are doing this is because they can. John VE5MU Subject: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Ch

[digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-22 Thread expeditionradio
> Tony KT2Q wrote > > Bonnie, > > Not sure if it's been said before, but the > 14100.5khz ALE data channel seems awfully close > the NCDXF beacon frequency on 14100.0. > Hi Tony, Yes, it is has been covered before in HFLINK group, and via direct communication with IARU Region frequency coord

Re: [digitalradio] ALE Frequency Calibration Re: ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread Tony
Bonnie, Not sure if it's been said before, but the 14100.5khz ALE data channel seems awfully close the NCDXF beacon frequency on 14100.0. Tony KT2Q - Original Message - From: "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: [digitalradio]

[digitalradio] ALE Frequency Calibration Re: ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread expeditionradio
Just a reminder: ALE and the associated digital communications with it, always uses FIXED audio frequencies, NEVER variable offset. Ham stations engaged in ALE operations on 20 meters are normally precisely on channel, calibrated +/- 20 Hz and using the internationally coordinated frequencies:

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread KV9U
John, If you indicate a frequency (QRG), then you should be on that frequency. It is precisely because everyone's offset will be different, that you can NOT use a dial frequency without specifying that it is a dial frequency and then it also specifying the offset you are using. Because we hav

[digitalradio] Digipan 2.0 Help?

2007-02-22 Thread Robert L
I'm hoping someone can help me edit and/or add my newly acquired ICOM 756P3 to the Digipan 2.0 list of CI-V setup choices. The reason I would like to do that is because every digiprogram I have uses the 6E default CI-V address, but that choice is simply not available within Digipan 2.0. I real

[digitalradio] 141A ARQ

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
Multipsk has a new mode 141A in test form, which can be found at http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_19_02_2007.ZIP So far is has been a very interesting mode, very fast throughput under moderate signal conditions am on tonight 3587.5 VFO listening and beaconing using 141A and short frames (co

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread Jose A. Amador
KV9U wrote: > > > Assuming you are centered on 14109.5, there has been a Pactor 3 station > partically on that frequency. Tried calling you now since freq is clear > but no response. But not sure of QRG. I am dial frequency 14.108 _1500 Hz. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U I found him on 14109.5 kHz dia

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE + S/N

2007-02-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
John, I think the memory arq which takes information from previous repeated corrupted frames will avoid to have 6 tries but only one (at least I hope so). An average of 2 bad frames is equivalent to a gain of 3 dB on the S/N of the averaged frame. Speaking of S/N and errors. The minimum S/Ns th

RE: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63

2007-02-22 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Of course I was really only guessing at what percent errors were looked at for the lowest SNR...actually just going by some information published in conjunction with Patrick's and Pascal's mode information. Perhaps one of the things that needs to be established IS how to determine the lowest SN

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
the multiple repetitions of each packet worked in our favour last night, since some took 6 tries to get thru since conditions were so bad. JOhn - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
dial frequency 14109.5 plus 0ffset. Since everyone's offset may be different, easier to understand VFO freq and look up from there at 2000gmt back making noise John - Original Message - From: KV9U To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:06 PM

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Kevin, This mode comes from a test version of Multipsk. Here is information about it. "..This test version in a ZIP test package is available in my site http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_19_02_2007.ZIP It contains the Multipsk test version, the help files (in English and French) and t

Re: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63

2007-02-22 Thread KV9U
I was not aware that the lowest S/N ratios allow for significant error rates. For example, the British study had what seemed perfect data throughput when they listed the S/N ratio below noise, although under AWGN and that is more similar to VHF and up compared to HF. Based upon the multitone su

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE

2007-02-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, TKS for info. >managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long >frames. would have worked better with short frames Yes in long frames it works better where conditions are stable (as in 28, 50 or 144 MHz). In SW, it's better to have short waves. I've just fi

RE: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63

2007-02-22 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Rick, A couple of things to consider... Most of the published Lowest S/N (such as by Patrick, F6CTE, Pascal, F1ULT and others is based on the signal level where you are getting about 2% errors. The lowest S/N for MT63 is - 8 dB for 5 bauds, - 5 dB for 10 bauds and -2 dB for 20 bauds and is ge

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread KV9U
Assuming you are centered on 14109.5, there has been a Pactor 3 station partically on that frequency. Tried calling you now since freq is clear but no response. But not sure of QRG. I am dial frequency 14.108 _1500 Hz. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: >this morning could hear CO2JA, Jose o

Re: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63

2007-02-22 Thread KV9U
I did not see any response to this but each of the DominoEX modes does have an estimated SNR For example: DEX4 = -14.5 dB DEX5 = -14 DEX8 = -13.5 DEX11 = -12 DEX16 = -10.5 DEX22 = -9 Add about one 1 db better SNR for using the FEC mode. It does seem that DEX22/FEC works better than DEX1

[digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
this morning could hear CO2JA, Jose on 14109.5 but couldn't work him with 141A. Did work him with about 85% copy on OLIVIA 1000/32 conditions noisy and with a little pactor QRM will keep trying, any other takers? John VE5MU

[digitalradio] multipsk 141A and ALE

2007-02-22 Thread John Bradley
at 1530Z listening on 14109.5 , short frames calling CQ or sounding making a little noise in other words... Not sure? give me your phone number and will call and talk you thru. have 24/7 toll free North America John VE5MU

Re: [digitalradio] Ham Radio Deluxe - PKS31

2007-02-22 Thread Simon Brown
Hi Kevin, You need either: [1] A beta I will release in a few days, or [2] Join the HRD forums at http://forums.ham-radio.ch and join the DM780 beta group. DM780 is a replacement for PSK31 Deluxe, hoping to make a general beta by Easter. Your TS-480SAT problem - there is a special command to

[digitalradio] Ham Radio Deluxe - PKS31

2007-02-22 Thread Kevin & Natalia
Simon HB9DRV, and Members, If you are reading. I run your Radio control program, and have recently been trying to use your PSK31 program that came with the install. Using a TS-480S/AT. The problem I am having is TX'ing. The radio switches to TX, via control PTT, but no audio, no output power re

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE and 141A

2007-02-22 Thread Kevin & Natalia
Just downloaded PCALE, and installed on Ham computer. What do I do next? And I guess 14.109.5 is the frequency to listen to? Kevin, ZL1KFM. Get Skype and call me for free. - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2

[digitalradio] 188-110A Soft-RF-Modem Rfsm2400 v.0.49

2007-02-22 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all, Version 0.49 is out. http://rfsm2400.narod.ru or http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com * Changes in version 0.49. * (+) Add feature - new speed - 3200 (3,4 kHz) / 2666 (2,7 kHz) bps (with puncturing code 2/3). Number of transeive modes for "dumb-modem": 14 - 2666 short, 15 - 2666 long. (+) A