[digitalradio] Mode Standards for ALE Ham Channels

2007-02-24 Thread expeditionradio
All ham radio ALE channels are specified by dial (VFO) frequency in USB (Upper Sideband). The standard ALE 8FSK signal always transmits FIXED audio tones. The common ham practice of saying the "offset" is not needed with ALE. The lowest of the ALE 8 tones is 750Hz and the highest tone is 2500Hz. Th

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > I received a Skype call from a ham asking me the very same question I > was thinking last week...what has happened to Olivia? Last year I > would say it was behind only PSK31, Pactor and RTTY in terms of > frequent actvity for digital modes. Now I think it is not as co

[digitalradio] Re: Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi Leigh, No protocol/technical reason...not sure there is a need as MFSK already does thatif there is an upside to Olivia sending pics versus MFSK it could be implimented. 73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Leigh L Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a

[digitalradio] Re: Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi Andy, It is still a viable mode often used. Some other modes have other upsides...mfsk is robust yet fast and narrow and also has pic xfer capabilities. DominoEx does very well with or without FEC on 160/80/40 and is also a narrow bandwidth mode at that speed. RTTYM/Contestia are less robu

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Leight, >My understanding is that the modulation for the image is not related to >MFSK at all, so any digimode program that includes the MFSK image >routines would work. Yes, but in the program it's mixed (it was difficult to completly separate MFSK and SSTV in MFSK) >The width is about the sam

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARUBeacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread Danny Douglas
It just doesnt make sense to give someone the incorrect frequency when spotting a digital station. Nor does it make sense to give them a VFO freq, since we all know that the station IS NOT THERE. It is the VFO plus the audio card freq added together. That is where we will find the digital statio

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Patrick, My understanding is that the modulation for the image is not related to MFSK at all, so any digimode program that includes the MFSK image routines would work. The initiation is text, for which the reliability is required. The width is about the same as MFSK so it would not work with

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread Jose A. Amador
KV9U wrote: > SSB nets are not running digital modes and their frequency is the > dial frequency, whether USB or LSB. CW nets are based on the zero > beat frequency, but different rigs have different CW offsets. Many > rigs have the ability for the operator to change the CW pitch to > center

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Jose A. Amador
Well, I plain have not attempted it. In spite of my ignorance, it might work. Will look into it later. Jose, CO2JA Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: > Is there any reason we couldn't have images with Olivia? As far as I > can tell, MFSK images are just plain old SSTV images with a header > specifyi

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Leight, Technically, you are right. All reliable modes (Olivia and DominoEX mainly) could support SSTV images as in MFSK16. It is just work... 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:32 PM

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Is there any reason we couldn't have images with Olivia? As far as I can tell, MFSK images are just plain old SSTV images with a header specifying size sent in MFSK data. The offset needs to be set for the different Olivia widths, but that is about it. Am I confused? Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 24 F

[digitalradio] Tests of the MIL-STD-188-141A mode (ALE) and new modes Unproto and ARQ FAE

2007-02-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, I have fixed (I hope) a bug on the last test version of Mutipsk. This new fixed test version in a ZIP test package is available in my site http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_25_02_2007.ZIP (copy and paste this adress in Internet Explorer (or equivalent) Net adress field). It conta

[digitalradio] "Net" frequency

2007-02-24 Thread Skip
I'd like to pass along a practice we feel we need to follow for our informal 2m digital ragchew net, the "257 Net" here in South Carolina. We currently use PSK63 but are probably going to switch to DominoEX shortly, as multipath interference appears to be less damaging to Domino than to PSK31 o

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Jose A. Amador
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > I received a Skype call from a ham asking me the very same question I > was thinking last week...what has happened to Olivia? Last year I > would say it was behind only PSK31, Pactor and RTTY in terms of > frequent actvity for digital modes. Now I think it is not as com

[digitalradio] Re: non-ham ALE

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
A few for Patrick French Diplomatic 6900.0 7740.0 9052.0 10825.0 12170.0 14671.0 15921.0 16320.0 17477.0 18396.0 19636.0 20616.0 25301.0 Moroccan Police (LSB) 6922.0 9825.0

[digitalradio] Re: non-ham ALE

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Liz'a troops... UK Military 3591.0 5684.0 6724.0 11178.0 UK Military/Diplo 6845.0 6945.0 13149.0 14814.0 14841.0 15603.0 15877.0 16640.0 16934.0 17490.0 18277.0 19977.0

[digitalradio] Re: non-ham ALE

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
US Military ALE frequencies (just some of them). US Air Force [Army NG Aviation and USCG stations also heard] 2805.0 3059.0 4721.0 6715.0 6721.0 7632.0 8968.0 9025.0 9057.0 11181.0 11226.0 11250.0

[digitalradio] Re: non-ham ALE

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
FEMA ALE frequencies FEMA [FEMA has gotten huge. Its various numbers are regions, and callsigns are grouped by national, regional, auxiliary, mobile, and state EOCs. FNARS sounds like a net control station.] 2658.0 FNARS 3341.0 FNARS 5402.0 FNARS 6049.0 6

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread KV9U
After several years, the main digital mode still appears to be PSK31, especially on the higher bands. When a new mode comes out, some of us will test it and if it doesn't have some superior feature, may not use it that much. A good example is MT-63 which seemed fairly popular when it first came

[digitalradio] Re: ALE

2007-02-24 Thread John Bradley
Bill , N9DSJ was also getting crashes, so I stayed with the earlier version. Tonight I have to go to work for a few hours, but will leave my rig on 3587.5, and enable the answer function so you should be able to connect and then hit end to disconnect. According to Patrick, there should be a messag

[digitalradio] non-ham ALE

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
For those new to ALE via Multipsk, here are a few non-ham related frequencies that I stole from various sources. You will need to change teh frequencies within Multipsk (or the QRG file in PC-ALE0 15867.0 J18: USCG MH-60J 6018 CGAS Clearwater Fl 1721 ALE/USB sndg. (2007-02-24) (sw) 05133.5 9200:

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL Seeks Comments on New HF Digital Protocol

2007-02-24 Thread John B. Stephensen
The 3kHz bandwidth is dissappointing. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 19:17 UTC Subject: [digitalradio] ARRL Seeks Comments on New HF Digital Protocol http://www.ar

Re: [digitalradio] Prop Beacons

2007-02-24 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I would argue that following the IARU band plan is following "good amateur practice" which is cited in part 97. See the recent announcement from QRP-ARCI to realign the US 40m QRP calling frequency as an example. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:28 am, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > None, there

[digitalradio] New HF Protocol Ideas Wanted

2007-02-24 Thread Radioguy
ARRL INVITES COMMENTS ON NEW HF DIGITAL PROTOCOL The ARRL is seeking comments from amateurs concerning development of an open-source (non-proprietary) data communications protocol suitable for use by radio amateurs over high-frequency (HF) fading paths. This is not a Request for Proposals (RFP). A

[digitalradio] VE5MU on 20M ALE with Multipsk

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
John, I hear you very well on 20M this afternoon with my wire antenna DE VE5MU CQ DE VE5MU CQ Multispk's tuning of ALE makes it easier than PC-ALE. I can't transmit with the new rig until a new interface cable arrives, sorry. Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com

Re: [digitalradio] Prop Beacons

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
None, there is no formal protection afforded just a "gentelman's/lady's" agreement. Andy K3UK On 2/24/07, Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I have been paying attention to the messages about ALE and the IARU beacons. Well now that there is a RTTY contest going on and I copy signals from 1

[digitalradio] Prop Beacons

2007-02-24 Thread Kurt
Well I have been paying attention to the messages about ALE and the IARU beacons. Well now that there is a RTTY contest going on and I copy signals from 14.073 up to 14.108, but copied one US Ham at 14.09995. So how close is to close and how much protection if any is afforded to the beacons? 7

[digitalradio] Olivia dying?

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I received a Skype call from a ham asking me the very same question I was thinking last week...what has happened to Olivia? Last year I would say it was behind only PSK31, Pactor and RTTY in terms of frequent actvity for digital modes. Now I think it is not as commond as MFK16, Hell, and ALE. W

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Data Mode Activity

2007-02-24 Thread Darrel Smith
Hi John, I would suggest you download the live-CD which you can run on any windows machine without affecting anything on your hard drive as everything is in RAM which can be saved to a USB drive. There are some interesting things happening with pskmail as w1hkj keeps upgrading fldigi and

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Guys, For optimal ALE reception you want your RX passband set to 1625hz when using less than 2.8 or 3.0Khz IF filtering, anyone running a ham rig with the typical 2.1 to 2.7 filtering will need to enable IF shift and move it up in frequency else you are starving the modem from seeing all 8

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread KV9U
The ICOM 756 Pro 2 centers on 1500 Hz. If anyone knows if you can change the center, I would like to know how to do it. My preference would be 1000 Hz since it makes it easier to increment one kHz from the dial frequency. As mentioned to Jose, the correct frequency you were operating on was 14

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread KV9U
You are of course right, Jose. That was a typo and should have read 14.111. Thanks for the correction. Rick, KV9U Jose A. Amador wrote: >KV9U wrote: > > >>When John, VE5MU, claims to be transmitting on 14109.5, he is >>actually centering his transmitting frequency on 14.110. >> >> > >No,

Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??

2007-02-24 Thread Dan O'Connor
> It's 16:45Z, and it seems that both WWW.QRZ.COM and online.qrz.com are > down (neither is even answering pings). > > Anybody else seeing this, and if so... anybody know what's up?? Out for me here in Nevada, too... My guess would be that they're doing a software/hardware upgrade. Guess we'll

Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??

2007-02-24 Thread Danny Douglas
Yep, same thing here. "Page cannot be displayed" warning coming up each time. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card.

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread John Becker
At 10:19 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote in part: >The truth is that no one used the AFSK dial frequency Sure they did. Is was so easy to just say the dial frequency rather saying put you mark on . I don't recall anyone running AFSK that would call out mark or space frequency. It was always dia

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Data Mode Activity

2007-02-24 Thread John Bradley
thanks Darrel , will do. I haven't since I am somewhat linnux challenged tried downloading the software and the linnux OS on a disk yet. where is the best site for PSK mail and the Linnux software to fool my windows computer? thanks John VE5MU - Original Message - From: Darrel

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread John Bradley
"My equipment has optimum filtering when operating in SSB digital modes only when I center the frequency at 1500 Hz. Therefore, I move my VFO appropriately if I hear something that I want to decode. I only move around the waterfall for casual checking of signals or if they are very s

RE: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??

2007-02-24 Thread Dave Sloan
Peter, I just tried from Colorado and it failed. Dave N0EOP -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wa8vbx Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:04 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... dow

Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??

2007-02-24 Thread wa8vbx
Peter I was just in QRZ and had no problems getting in. 73 Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: Peter G. Viscarola To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down?? It's 16:45Z, and it seems that both WW

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread Jose A. Amador
KV9U wrote: > > When John, VE5MU, claims to be transmitting on 14109.5, he is > actually centering his transmitting frequency on 14.110. No, 14111.14109.5 kHz + 1.5 kHz I did have to tune around, but I finally found him. Of course, it is easier to state the RF center frequency. The rest is

Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??

2007-02-24 Thread Flavio Padovani
Saludos Peter, WWW.QRZ.COM seems to be down at the moment. Saturday, February 24, 2007, 12:53:55 PM, you wrote: PGV> PGV> PGV> PGV> PGV> PGV> It's 16:45Z, and it seems that both WWW.QRZ.COM and online.qrz.com are PGV> down (neither is even answering pings). PGV> PGV> Any

[digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??

2007-02-24 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
It's 16:45Z, and it seems that both WWW.QRZ.COM and online.qrz.com are down (neither is even answering pings). Anybody else seeing this, and if so... anybody know what's up?? de Peter K1PGV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Data Mode Activity

2007-02-24 Thread Darrel Smith
And while you are there you can listen for our (VE7SUN) pskmail server running psk125 at 3595.25 +1000. Darrel On 23-Feb-07, at 9:27 PM, expeditionradio wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm on 3587.5 beaconing with 141A multipsk at 043

Re: [digitalradio] 14100.5 kHz USB - ALE Channel Bandwidth, IARU Beacon Guardband

2007-02-24 Thread KV9U
Maybe Canadians did RTTY/digital data differently than the rest of the world? John's comment that there is a tradition that when a frequency is given that it means VFO frequency just is not true from any historical perspective. It may be that he never operated RTTY which is the historical begi

Re: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63 -- Linux Version?

2007-02-24 Thread kd5nwa
Thanks, that site has all sorts of ham software a lot of it for Linux/Windows. Digital modes is something I have not tried before and I want to get involve so this will help a lot, I mostly run Linux myself. I use Puppy Linux on a old laptop for it's speed and also to rescue data from PC's that

[digitalradio] Re: Operating Methods on ALE Channels

2007-02-24 Thread expeditionradio
> > Good ALE ham operation requires a level of operator > > responsibility, and cooperation above what is needed > > for some other "modes". > > wa8vbx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kurt K8YZK wrote: > Bonnie does this mean that ALE operators are better then > those that do not operate A

Re: [digitalradio] Operating Methods on ALE Channels

2007-02-24 Thread wa8vbx
Good ALE ham operation requires a level of operator responsibility, and cooperation above what is needed for some other "modes". Bonnie does this mean that ALE operators are better then those that do not operate ALE. A very smug and dumb remark in my opinion. I do not operate A

Re: [digitalradio] Operating Methods on ALE Channels

2007-02-24 Thread wa8vbx
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