[digitalradio] HF Waveform

2007-09-22 Thread Rud Merriam
The reading I have done indicates there are three main natural issues in dealing with HF propagation: noise, fading, and multipath. There are other factors like impulse from either man-made or natural causes but the one I mentioned are clearly critical. It may even be that noise is less of an iss

RE: [digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-22 Thread Rud Merriam
Hi Rick, The other night I went through that PhD thesis you have posted on HfDec. The main problems on HF, according to that author, are not AWGN but fading and multipath. He even indicated that the AWGN model is inaccurate that empirical measurements indicate the noise is Laplacian, which has a

RE: [digitalradio] ALE standards work fine Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE

2007-09-22 Thread Rud Merriam
Quite all right being blunt with me Bonny. I am learning about HF protocols and part of them will be mean getting slapped down about misinformation. I am deed-restricted so have some problems getting HF. But I am addressing them so I may get onto the HF waves with at least an NVIS setup in the near

[digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-22 Thread Rick
Like so many things in life, there are tradeoffs and ALE is not all that bad, but it is also not all that good either. Rud's comments are accurate, unless you ignore what the military/commercial/government actually writes about ALE. When I first read about ALE in QST many years ago, beginning i

[digitalradio] Re: Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
>>>AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most of the "automatic" or "unattended" sub-bands or band segments on HF were formed many years ago before such operations become so widely popular as they are now. Presently there are many

[digitalradio] Re: Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread expeditionradio
Most of the "automatic" or "unattended" sub-bands or band segments on HF were formed many years ago before such operations become so widely popular as they are now. Presently there are many thousands of hams actively using these methods, and it is increasing daily. Thus, the segments devoted to i

[digitalradio] Re: Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
Were the strident advocates of unattended operation to focus their energy on adding effective busy detectors and some form of universal QRL protocol to their unattended stations, they could rightfully claim that unattended stations were no less polite than any human operated station, and ought

Re: [digitalradio] Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread larry allen
I am sure, you have heard of the expression... 'give an inch take a mile' Larry ve3fxq - Original Message - From: "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DIGITALRADIO" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Here's some frequencies for unattended HF ope

Re: [digitalradio] Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > I'm an odd ham in that I smile with amusement when amateur radio > groups rush to "defend" frequencies and worry about some non-hams > getting "our" frequencies. I happen to think we have more than we > need and can easily give some away. > I read the rest of the messag

[digitalradio] ALE standards work fine Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE

2007-09-22 Thread expeditionradio
> Rud k5rud wrote: > My recent readings indicate that the ALE standards > are _NOT_ good for ham use because the military is not power > limited. They can attain good SNRs because of this. > Hams are not able to do this. Hi Rud, Sorry to be blunt, but your opinion about ALE standards is sim

Re: [digitalradio] ALE On The Air Week, October 5 - 15

2007-09-22 Thread Andrew O'Brien
This is a repeat post Mark. Andy K3UK Owner. On 9/22/07, Mark Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ALE On The Air Week > > Posted by: "expeditionradio" [EMAIL PROTECTED] expeditionradio > Date: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:50 am ((PDT)) > > ALE On The Air Week is 5-15 October

RE: [digitalradio] Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE

2007-09-22 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Rud, Yes, the Military and Government HF users can and do at times operate with more RF EIRP that we Radio Amateurs have licensed limits for operating. However, WRT ALE at least, its not needed and the bulk of HF Military activity is usually within NVIS ranges as its tactical, and with NVIX

[digitalradio] Re: Digital modes: 7 years ago this momth

2007-09-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
Peter G3PLX publicly released PSK31sbw, the first soundcard-based implementation of PSK31, in late 1998. Previous implementations of PSK31 required special purpose hardware. Skip KH6TY and Nick UT2UZ released the first panoramic soundcard PSK31 application (Digipan) in early 2000. In June 200

Re: [digitalradio] Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Andy, Frequencies are are required on all the Amateur Radio band assets to deal with the changes in propagation 24/7. As a matter of fact, the Amateur Radio Service does not have enough allocations to actually deal with 24/7 propagation changes, a key reason for the WARC bands in '79 and t

[digitalradio] Here's some frequencies for unattended HF operations

2007-09-22 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I'm an odd ham in that I smile with amusement when amateur radio groups rush to "defend" frequencies and worry about some non-hams getting "our" frequencies. I happen to think we have more than we need and can easily give some away. With that in mind , here are some freqs for PACTOR and ALE stati

[digitalradio] Re: Digital modes: 7 years ago this momth

2007-09-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
~540 enhancements later... http://www.dxlabsuite.com/winwarbler/Heard.jpg 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From the digital radio reflector 7 years ago this month > > > WinWarbler 1.7.0 is available > > WinWarbler

[digitalradio] ALE On The Air Week, October 5 - 15

2007-09-22 Thread Mark Thompson
ALE On The Air Week Posted by: "expeditionradio" [EMAIL PROTECTED] expeditionradio Date: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:50 am ((PDT)) ALE On The Air Week is 5-15 October. http://hflink.com/aotaw It is an international readiness event, with direct HF messaging, HF SMS (phone texting), or short tex

Re: [digitalradio] Re: DM780 Reviews

2007-09-22 Thread Simon Brown
I would just point out that this is a beta - I am hoping to release 1.2 by the end of October. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: "grant390" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If you are looking for Ham Radio Deluxe (and DM780): > > http://hrd.ham-radio.ch/ >

[digitalradio] Re: DM780 Reviews

2007-09-22 Thread grant390
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "jhaynesatalumni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you tell us where to get it? > If you are looking for Ham Radio Deluxe (and DM780): http://hrd.ham-radio.ch/ kd7ofv

[digitalradio] Re: DM780 Reviews

2007-09-22 Thread jhaynesatalumni
Why do you tell us where to get it?

[digitalradio] Tests in ARQ FAE

2007-09-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, I found two bugs on the ARQ FAE during my tests with Steinar. They are fixed. A 4.4.2 Multipsk test version in a ZIP test package is available in my site. It contains the Multipsk test version (with ARQ FAE bugs fixed). http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_22_09_2007.ZIP Paste this

[digitalradio] Using Winlink to Deliver Email - W3QA Dayton Presentation

2007-09-22 Thread Mark Thompson
Using Winlink to Deliver Email - W3QA Dayton Presentation http://www.therainreport.com/rainreport_archive/rainreport-9-21-2007.mp3 Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mai

RE: [digitalradio] Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE

2007-09-22 Thread Rud Merriam
Here is a table I generated in Excel. I will get something up on The Ham Network to do calculations, or put up the spreadsheet. SNR C/BWBW/CBW for (db)(bits/s/Hz)(Hz/bits/s) 1200 bps ---

[digitalradio] Re: Digital modes: 7 years ago this momth

2007-09-22 Thread Jerry W
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy, Wow that long ago! Started to get back on HF after an absence of ten years in 2000. Did not know about PSK31 then. Downloaded HamComm and built the interface to connect to the serial port of the computer. Got

[digitalradio] DM780 Reviews

2007-09-22 Thread Andrew O'Brien
by AA6A Sep 19, 2007 18:10 from http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/62637 This Program Rocks!!! It's been in development for over a year and the effort shines through with a harvest of bountiful features. If you've ever used PSK31 Deluxe, DM780 replaces it. It will seem familiar, but don't worr

[digitalradio] Digital modes: 7 years ago this momth

2007-09-22 Thread Andrew O'Brien
>From the digital radio reflector 7 years ago this month WinWarbler 1.7.0 is available WinWarbler allows you to conduct QSOs using the PSK31 mode developed by Peter Martinez, G3PLX. To aid PSK31 DXers and contesters, WinWarbler can simultaneously decode and display PSK transmissions on three sep

[digitalradio] Multidem 2.0 SdR / Multipsk 4.4.1 / Clock 1.7.4

2007-09-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, I have issued the version 2.0 of Multidem which permits to demodulate I/Q signals from a SdR receiver (and, of course, I signals from a DSB receiver) and to manage them by Multipsk through a TCP/IP link. Multipsk 4.4.1 and Clock 1.7.4 only fix some bugs, mainly relatively to GPS