Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

On 05/02/2012 Florian Effenberger wrote: Jesús Corrius wrote on 2012-02-03 14:08: We had a huge problem in the OpenOffice.org Conference 2007 in Barcelona as more than 1000 people registered for the conference and at the end there were no more than 250 people appeared. ... We should have a regi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

On 28/12/2011 Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Danishka Navin wrote: Why we still continue the "Floppy Disk" as the icon for "Save" button in LibreOffice? When was the last time you saw a phone that look like http://iphonestudio.co.uk/images/uber_iphone_phone_logo.jpg I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A marketing lesson!

On 21/12/2011 Pedro wrote: Do you mean the (L)GPL license allows people to sell copies of LibreOffice? I thought it only allowed to charge for production/distribution costs... It does allow to sell copies, and the Free Software Foundation encourages it. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selli

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

On 05/12/2011 Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Whoever hit that trap: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/7271 might probably think scary where to post, and where not. Well, that specific message is probably not a good example, since in the end it was more useful to the l

Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

Regina Henschel wrote: All mailing lists I'm described to (and believe me that are a lot) behave in the way that a click on "Antwort auf diese Nachricht" replies to the list. So keep the documentfoundation.org lists to behave this way too. Only @lists.freedesktop.org behave not that way and that

Re: [tdf-discuss] official forums

On 12/11/2011 Robert Derman wrote: If I remember correctly, those who voted -1 were not against TDF hosting our own forums, they were against the idea of forums in general. Actually, you don't remember correctly. (This message is just to avoid that history is rewritten... time to move on and a

Re: [NOT-SO-PRIVATE] RE: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

On 07/11/2011 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Now that's the most embarrassing thing I have done in a long time. Hi Dennis, actually there wasn't anything inappropriate, just insightful comments that apparently were useful to other people on this list to move onwards; and being useful to many peopl

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

On 08/11/2011 Cor Nouws wrote: For some time, I could personally live quite well with a forum that is clearly, visibly, independent serving LibreOffice and other suites. Since suggestions made in that direction seem to be more political than technical feasible, I can leave that illusion. Does t

Re: [tdf-discuss] [POLL] own forums

On 10/11/2011 Florian Effenberger wrote: So, a quick +1/-1 in this thread would be nice to get an overview Mine is -1 to be read as: I would be in favor of an own URL with own branding but the same database as http://user.services.openoffice.org since this would be best for users (and, honest

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

Cor Nouws wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote (05-11-11 13:02) when it comes to user support the people involved are much more pragmatic That would be my expectation too. And then 'people involved', I would read as those with questions, answers and with moderation tasks. Yes, t

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

On 31/10/2011 Florian Effenberger wrote: What I would like to have is one "official" LibO forum, either done by us or someone else, that is open for all languages, and run by a group that does not have members who openly show hostility towards TDF. I am not saying that everyone does so, but at le

Re: [tdf-discuss] Good bye to all of the community members knowing my name...

On 29/10/2011 Bernhard Dippold wrote: Even if I tried not to compromise my real life by my LibreOffice activities, I had to realize, that I can't reach this goal Thanks Bernhard for your long history of contributions to OpenOffice.org and later LibreOffice. I understand that the time comes whe

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

Cor Nouws wrote: I noticed that the old users forums from OOo are not available any more. They are indeed currently being migrated to Apache infrastructure; all existing posts and accounts will be kept. There was a mixture of questions related to OOo and of course increasingly LibreOffice.

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

e-letter wrote: > It is difficult to understand why a business > would waste time trying to use LO; if a customer uses m$, the supplier > might as well do so also and consider the m$ price as a cost of > conducting business. I've seen plenty of small, medium and large businesses that chose to use

Re: [steering-discuss] Wiki Work Items updated

Michael Meeks wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 14:45 +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > everybody (now!) knows the priority of the Document Foundation > > has been to stick to the licenses it had unilaterally chosen, before > > discussing any further options; this is perfect

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

Marc Paré wrote: > This thread is really about proposing, to the devs, the possibility of > creating a "LibreOffice Reader" similar to the "Adobe .pdf Reader". This could be an idea to investigate, but I don't know how feasible it is; actually there is (or used to be) a "read only" mode in OpenOf

RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > If I am the copyright holder of my code, I can issue it with a license > that requires anyone who modifies my source code to provide me with > the changes to my code that they make. ... > PS: It is the case that neither the GPL nor APLv2 have such a > compulsory conditi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

On 01/06/2011 Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:51:09AM -0700, NoOp wrote: > > > > TDF's statement included : > > "Today we welcome Oracle’s don

Re: [tdf-discuss] Comparison of LO and OO downloads for a non-English language

M Henri Day wrote: > 2011/5/28 Stefan Weigel > > As far as I know, it´s an issue of data volume on the download servers. > Which, no doubt, is an question of money. Actually it is just a choice: it does lower the barrier for someone to host a mirror, but the size and upload time are comparable; t

Re: [tdf-discuss] need new string in chart type dialog of line and XY chart for smoothing line with B-spline

On 25/05/2011 Regina Henschel wrote: > Steve Edmonds schrieb: > Currently it is in English "Data points order", that are 17 characters, > in German we have "Ordnung für Stützpunkte", that are 23 characters, > Spanish has 28 characters and fills the dialog area completely. > > > "Interpolation Po

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question

Harold Fuchs wrote: > Has Oracle given permission for TDF to use its forum, or doesn't TDF need > such permission? Does TDF *want* to use an Oracle resource? I think Drew has already explained this on multiple mailing lists, anyway: the forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/ are run by co

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA - Bug Confirming: Volunteers required

Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Or maybe people did join, waited a little and then left again without > writing a word, because the channel itself was silent. This was more or less my case. I connected in the afternoon European time, I saw no activity at all for one hour, I realized that "12PM" (i.e.,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: How to pronounce the name (again, sorry)

Sveinn í Felli wrote: > 'Libre' is also italian - but then it means a book, I think. "Libre" has no meaning in Italian - although it may convey the idea of "Libero" (free) or indeed of "Libro" (book). However, Italians wouldn't have problems in pronouncing Libre "the Italian way", which is a bit c

Re: [tdf-discuss] Vertical Text not working

On 13/03/2011 Andreas Mantke wrote: > Am Sonntag, 13. März 2011, 04:39:15 schrieb Kunal Singh: > > View > Toolbars > Drawing > Vertical Text not working. > I tried with LibreOffice 3.3.2-x64-rc1 on openSUSE 11.3-x64 KDE 4.4.4 and I > can't > persuade the icon for vertical text to appear in the dr

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

On 09/03/2011 NoOp wrote: > Note: it seems that I've fallen into this category on the OOo list; > after 5 years of posts, I'm suddenly no longer subscribed, nor can I > comment on OOo bug reports any longer unless I create a new > username/password... but that's another story Yes, that is another

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer

Italo Vignoli wrote: On 3/9/11 9:53 PM, RGB ES wrote: support to both, OOo and LibO and to help the Spanish localization of both projects under the same "umbrella" (something similar to PLIO project for Italian(1)). ... Totally wrong. PLIO at the moment is divided between people that want to su

Re: [tdf-discuss] Example: Strange OpenOffice Email from a new universe

Joe Rotello wrote: > On the subject of an example of the Email received... > Here's my initially-received copy. I include the header info for ones > perusal. OK, then I confirm what I wrote in http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg05281.html and others confirmed in the mea

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Strange OpenOffice Email from a new universe

On 26/02/2011 Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > You can copy and paste it here,of course :-) Since nobody forwarded the message in the end, and I didn't receive it myself, I can only speculate it is the expected message notifying all openoffice.org (the site, not OpenOffice.org the software) users about

Re: [tdf-discuss] Contributors' names in LibO 3.3: how to ask for a correction?

On 25/01/2011 Gianluca Turconi wrote: > I post here because I've just read a message about credits in LibO 3.3 and > so I've checked them ... I' haven't found among the > contributors the name of Davide Prina, co-author of the Italian > spellchecker dictionary. ... > Furthermore, I've checked

Re: [tdf-discuss] New year - new listmailfooter

Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: > If You think, it beeing a good thing to have a "posting guidelines" > pointer in the footer, then I'll be glad to put it in there for all > active Mailinglists. I agree it's a good thing to have it, and I suggest to seize this opportunity to get rid of the "eternity"

Re: [tdf-discuss] Linux distros and LibO packaging

On 19/01/2011 Cor Nouws wrote: > Andrea Pescetti wrote (18-01-11 21:13) > > LibreOffice bugs like > > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg04508.html > ... The bug you point to, does not suggest that they will make substantial > changes, though? We

Re: [Libreoffice] [tdf-discuss] Linux distros and LibO packaging

Rene Engelhard wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:13:48AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Besides that, distros will have to continue libreoffice-build, which does > > still contain patches. (Removing those would be a big regression about > > what we ship right now) Thanks. So some distributions

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO build numbers

Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > My current version comparing with previsious version: > 3.3.0 RC4 - WIN7 (64bit) German UI [OOO330m19 (build 6 / tag 3.3.0.4)] > 3.3.0 RC3 - WIN7 (64bit) German UI [OOO330m19 (build 5 / tag 3.3.0.3)] > I am astonished to see "OOO300m19" for both OpenOffice.org 3.3-RC9

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [releases] Roadmap for 3.x

Nguyen Vu Hung wrote: > I am not sure if I am missing something but I don't see > any bugfixes or new features on the road to 3.4. > > Yes, you are missing something. Those pages are jus

Re: [tdf-discuss] Linux distros and LibO packaging

On 09/01/2011 Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > I think that we should have a webpage where Linux distributions who are > packaging LibO, could list what changes they made compared to the > "official" build by TDF. ... > So, is it a good idea to ask the Linux distributions to publish the > changes they

Re: [tdf-discuss] Spam filtering the mailing lists

Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: > Jonathan Aquilina schrieb: > >I was cleaning out my junk folder to find there were at least 7 emails > >which Thunderbird was nice enough to filter from my gmail inbox. > > These for shure were mails sent to one of the mailinglists? To which > one? ... No single one c

Re: [tdf-discuss] changed footers of all documentfoundation and libreoffice.org mailing lists

Sigrid Carrera wrote: > 2010/11/24 Florian Effenberger : > > What do others think? I still clearly favor the non-poetic version ;) > > I have no real preference. But in my opinion, the "non-poetic" version > looks to me more "professional". So I vote for this one. I will very rarely get to read t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

Robert Derman wrote: > I do know however that ODF > if far more economical of file size than PDF, I have noticed that on > documents that I have written with Writer and then output as PDFs. Jean already clarified this is not the case, but if you need numbers this is the comparison for the Italia

Re: [tdf-discuss] Content of Beta3 Windows Install-Packages

Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > Brazilian version has traditionally (i.e. OOo-times) been a different > > package/has not been called OpenOffice.org in Brazil, but BrOffice due > > to trademark issues. ... > > > Yep - but since BrOffice is a well-established brand, and under

Re: [tdf-discuss] [FAQ] new entries (here: CA/JCA/SCA)

is my point of view!). Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice should have own "LibreOfficeFont"

Harold Fuchs wrote: > "Mateusz Zasuwik" wrote ... > > http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html > > http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish) > > > > The study relies on extricating fonts installed on t

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments & the Document Foundation

On 07/11/2010 Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > The last minutes of the SC meeting explains that we will revisit the issue > once the Foundation is properly established. ...which means that at that point the only feasible solution will be to ask for agreement/assignment on a voluntary basis, or even reje

Re: [tdf-discuss] [FAQ] new entries (here: CA/JCA/SCA)

ion gives all the rights to Oracle, of course. But I would expect that, with a copyright agreement in place, it could get more recognition in a possible reconciliation phase than what it can get by merely relying on moral suasion. Best regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- Unsubs

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > I don't know if and how easy this would be in drupal. So far I have > coded a very simple webform in "django" (python is my thing :-)) to > allow uploading a document and a comment. This would be elementary in Drupal. > The only thing that is then left, is to link the up

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

state that the bug is obsolete and at the same time complain it is being ignored, but if it is meaningful it can be solved in LibreOffice or upstream in OpenOffice.org. Best regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments & the Document Foundation

Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Honestly, I believe new developers joined because the bar for contribution was lowered ... the paperwork reduction may have helped too, but I don't see it as the most effective improvement. The paperwork was only a practical detail

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments & the Document Foundation

LibreOffice developers only in theory, because any agreement would then need to be confirmed with every developer; while with a copyright agreement/assignment in place, the Document Foundation could effectively represent a measurable percentage of the codebase, and its opinion be weighed acc

Re: [tdf-discuss] We're on slashdot

Cor Nouws wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote (17-10-10 14:47) and the treasurer of Team OpenOffice.org e.V. happens to be from Oracle: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=budget&msgNo=255 and again we are back in the situation Jean correctly described as "messy".

Re: [tdf-discuss] Please embed dictionaries in Danish lang-pack and install

Andras Timar wrote: > 2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti: > > Being the maintainer of the Italian dictionary package, I'm sad to see > > LibreOffice trashing my work (and doing the same with other > > community-contributed dictionary packages, like Danish as seen in this >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Please embed dictionaries in Danish lang-pack and install

On 15/10/2010 Andras Timar wrote: > 2010/10/15 Andrea Pescetti: > > Strange. Language packs in OpenOffice.org (including those for > > Linux-based systems) do include dictionary, thesaurus and hyphenation > > patterns ... > > Is LibreOffice's packaging different

Re: [tdf-discuss] We're on slashdot

255 and again we are back in the situation Jean correctly described as "messy". Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All

Re: [tdf-discuss] why LibO?

Fridrich Strba wrote: > I changed the occurences of LO in the build to LibO. > Please, could you come to an agreement? I think it's kind of official, see http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/msg00430.html Regards, Andrea. -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instru

Re: [tdf-discuss] Please embed dictionaries in Danish lang-pack and install

ictionary, thesaurus and hyphenation patterns: see http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/extended/3.2.1rc2/ Is LibreOffice's packaging different from this point of view? And why? Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to un

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

"free/libre" issue... Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

ified that qatrack.services.openoffice.org, the current instance of QATrack, is on community-run servers and that a fresh installation wouldn't be problematic. Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly arch

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

y brother of OOo" forever in the public opinion. At least, I recommend that new tests are written for any LibreOffice specific functionality, that we have a tool to track them (kind of TCM) and a tool to track releases (QATrack being the natural candidate here). Regards, Andrea Pescet

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] eWeek coverage of LibreOffice

about LibreOffice appearing here and there these days. Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.docum

Re: [tdf-discuss] [FAQ] new entries (here: CA/JCA/SCA)

olicy, to avoid presenting Copyright Agreements/Assignments as inherently bad: very respectable Foundations promoting Free Software do use them, in the interest of their projects, and a trustworthy Foundation should not be afraid to ask for them. Best regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- To unsubscribe, send

Re: [tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

ffice.org/source/browse/qa/qatrack/ and actually http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/about.php still points to it (see footer). Best regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be