Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-13 Thread Alex Cook
Here here, this is a great plugin for this purpose... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sterling Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:07 PM To: jQuery Discussion. Subject: Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Rey Bango
One thing that I want to ensure that everyone understands is that the jQuery project is as much about community as it is about the library. Its important that we all respect each other and listen to ideas, suggestions and advice. I hope to never see this community, that to date has been some ac

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
*uncaps a beer* You're all right, of course. Frankly, I am ashamed that I sunk to that level. Having my suggestion called "ridiculous" just rubbed me the wrong way. Some requests are ridiculous of course, but I don't think it's good practice to marginalize or belittle someone's ideas because y

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
I just wanted to say I'm sorry for responding to your post like that. It's been a long day and calling my suggestion "ridiculous" just set me off. I would hate to have some new person get a response like that and turn them off from jQuery forever. Again, my apologies for what it's worth. Bri

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Rey Bango
Easy there tiger. Brice is one of the cool ones on here and I think he's just voicing his opinion in general. I didn't read it as anything personal against ya. :o) Could everybody please just take a deep breath and re-read anything they're about to post? Lets stay cool with each other. :o) Re

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Alexandre Plennevaux
$("#jerk").css("text-decoration: line-through").after("needs a beer"); -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daemach Sent: mardi 13 mars 2007 1:57 To: discuss@jquery.com Subject: Re: [jQuery] Please add a basi

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
You're right of course - telling anyone to go work at Microsoft is hitting below the belt. Brice's posts lean towards the abrasive and this one just set me off. My apologies. Most of the "new person" questions on this list involve issues that could be resolved easily if they could just see what

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Benjamin Sterling
Here is an awesome plug in that I use all the time: http://jquery.glyphix.com/ You can see it in action at: http://ov-oba.informationexperts.com/ -- Benjamin Sterling http://www.KenzoMedia.com http://www.KenzoHosting.com ___ jQuery mailing list discus

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Karl Rudd
Daemach I think you may have read a little too much harshness into Brice's reply. Brice may have needed to use a little clearer, not so open to being interperated as harsh. Brice is quite helpful usually so it would be out of character for him to beat someone down. We're all learning here, so let

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
Thanks for the beatdown Brice! I'm glad you're the only jerk I've seen on this list! And don't be an elitist prick - some people reviewing this framework are new to jQuery and some even to javascript programming itself. If you can't say something nice, go work at Microsoft. Brice Burgess wrot

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Kenneth
I started to roll my own for this too, but I got caught up in featurizing it and haven't manage to finish it up. Basically I was looking for something similar, but would do a check for $.browser.msie so that you wouldn't get an error in IE (while adding alternative output forms, like an alert or c

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Brice Burgess
Daemach wrote: > I would like to be able to dump the contents of the current selector to the > console using $"#myselector").debug() without loading a plugin. Something > as simple as the following would work, though if you devs have some ideas on > how to make it more useful I'm sure it would be

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)
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Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Sam Collett
On 12/03/07, Jörn Zaefferer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daemach schrieb: > > I already have a plugin - it contains the code I put in my first email. I > > just don't want to have to add that line or remember to remove it. Adding > > the function directly to jquery will not affect the file size s

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
:. > > Nathan Young > Cisco.com->Interface Development > A: ncy1717 > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daemach >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:41 PM >> To

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
I'm not sure what an ant build is, but adding this to the bottom of jquery.js on my dev box works. jQuery.fn.debug = function() {console.log(this); return this;} Jörn Zaefferer wrote: > > Daemach schrieb: >> I already have a plugin - it contains the code I put in my first email. >> I >> just

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Christopher Jordan
han .:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.: ||:. Nathan Young Cisco.com->Interface Development A: ncy1717 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daemach Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:41 PM To: discuss@jquery.com Subject: Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug funct

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Daemach schrieb: > I already have a plugin - it contains the code I put in my first email. I > just don't want to have to add that line or remember to remove it. Adding > the function directly to jquery will not affect the file size significantly > and it will always be available. > > If I ever d

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)
-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daemach > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:41 PM > To: discuss@jquery.com > Subject: Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to > the jQuery core... > > > I already have a plugi

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)
Greasemonkey is also excelent for this. --->N > Daemach, > > Why don't you just make a nice debug plug-in, that you can > include at the top of your code to give you the functions you > need, then when you're done you just remove the one

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
I already have a plugin - it contains the code I put in my first email. I just don't want to have to add that line or remember to remove it. Adding the function directly to jquery will not affect the file size significantly and it will always be available. If I ever decide to switch to safari o

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Christopher Jordan
Daemach, Why don't you just make a nice debug plug-in, that you can include at the top of your code to give you the functions you need, then when you're done you just remove the one

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
*sigh* Fine. I'll just add the function to my local jquery.js It's a pain in the neck to have to add and remove the plugin code for a 30 second test. Klaus Hartl wrote: > > Erik Beeson schrieb: >> Given that you don't need (or want) debug functionality in a >> production environment, I woul

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Klaus Hartl
Erik Beeson schrieb: > Given that you don't need (or want) debug functionality in a > production environment, I would argue that this is better suited to a > plugin and doesn't belong in the core. I second that. You cannot rely on console anyway, so why not make it a plugin that facilitates all t

[jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Daemach
I would like to be able to dump the contents of the current selector to the console using $"#myselector").debug() without loading a plugin. Something as simple as the following would work, though if you devs have some ideas on how to make it more useful I'm sure it would be welcomed, especially b

Re: [jQuery] Please add a basic debug function to the jQuery core...

2007-03-12 Thread Erik Beeson
Given that you don't need (or want) debug functionality in a production environment, I would argue that this is better suited to a plugin and doesn't belong in the core. --Erik On 3/12/07, Daemach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to be able to dump the contents of the current selector