Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-11 Thread Todd Diemer
Good work so far. I am also from out of town, but rely on the Chicago public transit system to get around. A couple of comments from the outsider's perspective: 1. When selecting a certain destination, there is an increased cognitive load when the user moves from a spacial representation of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Drew
I'm someone who uses BART several times in a weekend, but only one or two weekends a year. And I'm a software tester by career. The stops that I routinely use are the two airports, the one near work, the one near the hotel, and the Caltrain stop. Some comments I had: * I don't think of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-07 Thread Scott McDaniel
I'm pretty much compelled to rub my face against touchscreens, which is why I'm banned from all Apple stores. I can just push a button with a digit, no problemo. Scott On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:51 AM, live human.factor@gmail.com wrote: This has nothing to do with hygiene and everything to

[IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Ljuba Miljkovic
I just finished my final UI design project at UC Berkeley's School of Information (I'm a grad student there) and was hoping for your feedback. We redesigned the BART ticket kiosk. Our goal was to make it easier for first-time or infrequent riders to use while not making it any harder for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Jordan, Courtney
Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface I just finished my final UI design project at UC Berkeley's School of Information (I'm a grad student there) and was hoping for your feedback. We redesigned the BART ticket kiosk. Our goal was to make it easier for first-time or infrequent

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Weyert de Boer
The interface looks nice and I think the letters near the regions is really handy. Makes it easier to distinct which section belongs to which button then the apparently coloured lines. Weyert de Boer (w...@innerfuse.biz) innerfuse* http://www.innerfuse.biz

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread gMulder
Looks good. I had trouble with the Select a Destination screen - at a quick look (the one I would have using a kiosk - in a noisy place and me being nervous about the thing) I was confused by the colour/placing of the buttons and it took me a while to figure out that the colours are the things to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Dan Harrelson
Nice work! I like that it gets you to a ticket value that's exactly what you need for a trip. That's probably the biggest improvement. The hardest screen for me to understand was the system map. It took a bit to realize that the hard keys were mapped to colors which mapped to regions of the map.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Weyert de Boer
I think it's better to improve the interface without too much dependency on the colours themselves but more the contrast. The only clear colours on the Select a Destination Region screen are B and F. The other colours appears to be the same colour A and B are yellow and C and F are Blue

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Nina Eleanor Alter
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Ljuba Miljkovic Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:08 PM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface I just finished my final UI design project at UC Berkeley's School of Information (I'm a grad

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Jordan, Courtney
: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface I think it's better to improve the interface without too much dependency on the colours themselves but more the contrast. The only clear colours on the Select a Destination Region screen are B and F. The other colours appears

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Jack Moffett
Certainly, a touchscreen would make things easier, but they were obviously designing within the constraints of the existing hardware. Given that, I think they've done a fine job. Best, Jack Jack L. Moffett Senior Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread live
A couple of thoughts: The kiosk doesnt know where I am? It makes me choose a starting point? I mean, yes it's important to give the option to change the starting point, but for the most of percentage of sales the user will be buying a ticket from the starting point they are standing at.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Merholz
Like others, the destination screen was not immediately clear. I didn't *get* that the large floaty letters next to the system map were meant to map to the buttons. Also, it takes quite a bit of effort to discern which destinations are aligned with which floaty letters. I would do two

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Jack Moffett
On May 6, 2009, at 12:09 PM, live wrote: The kiosk doesnt know where I am? It makes me choose a starting point? It's fairly obvious that was just a setting for the prototype, as it darkens the entire mockup, including the physical buttons, and would require a touchscreen. Best, Jack

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Ljuba Miljkovic
Thank you all for your feedback! A few thoughts: I completely agree that clicking/touching the screen is tempting when it's presented to you in a browser. Though in our user testing at a BART station with the physical prototype, it wasn't a problem at all. Users immediately went for the physical

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Angel Marquez
Looks good. In the future would we be able to do this: Would you make it so I can press a button on my handy mobile cellular device the kiosk says Thank you mister marquez for choosing Bart and helping your environment. You have X amount of rides left. Feel free to reload your credits on your

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread dave malouf
My students and I got really confused by choosing the starting point. I think you could of just told us in the text of the web page. It set up a poor evaluation context. Putting that aside, we got lost on the map. the color Letter soft key mapping were not apparent w/o further direction and the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Angel Marquez
+ I wouldn't want a touchscreen in a public space like BART for obvious reasons. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Angel Marquez angel.marq...@gmail.comwrote: Looks good. In the future would we be able to do this: Would you make it so I can press a button on my handy mobile cellular device

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Weyert de Boer
Sorry, to hear that you weren't able to make the colours more distinguishable. Did you print out a colour palette on non-colour printer? That's a good test to see if the colours work. You could try to improve it or maybe make the connection of the region with the letter/buttons more clear.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread olivier
I was in the bay area 2 month ago. And I took the BART once. I think if the kiosk I used was this one I could have buy tickets without asking for help. So I will say good job ! A touch screen would make it more intuitive but I find it OK. The first step (choosing the current location) should be

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread contenthouse
Hi, I agree with Dave Malouf's comment about the Destination Map. I think you should consider delineating using lines as oppose to showing the birds eye map. The current station the rider is at should also be marked on the destination map. I think globally it is an accepted standard to organize

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread David Malouf
angel, why no touch screens. Being a NYC resident for over 15 years, many of which w/ the current metrocard system from an IxD perspective, I don't understand the comment. Is this about hygene? really? considering how much stuff we touch in a subway system like seats and hand rails and turnstyles

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread gavin burke|FAW
My usual use case for public transport is getting off the plane and into a busy station. Nearly every ticket system on first use, bar London and Tokyo, have ended up with me at the head of a queue of locals rolling their eyes to heaven. In these situations navigation to an end point as fast

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Christian Crumlish
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Angel Marquez angel.marq...@gmail.comwrote: + I wouldn't want a touchscreen in a public space like BART for obvious reasons. What about the mechanical buttons on the current BART kiosk machines. Would you touch them? -x-

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Angel Marquez
Yes, and I have; but, I'd rather not. ATM machines just the same. Seems like the technology is in place to have my own touch point on my person set up the way I like it and the receiver would just make the monetary exchange. I over exaggerated my example to a status quo solution. I would be just

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Merholz
What about the mechanical buttons on the current BART kiosk machines. Would you touch them? I actually depress them with my tongue. --peter Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ...

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Angel
Zactly my point! Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Peter Merholz pete...@peterme.com wrote: What about the mechanical buttons on the current BART kiosk machines. Would you touch them? I actually depress them with my tongue. --peter

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread Alan Salmoni
One thing that jumped out at me was when going from the overall map to the map of a single line: I found the switch from lines going in various directions onto a single line with a different pattern and direction confusing - I felt myself having to reorientate and translate between the two (line A

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Feedback on Redesigned BART Ticket Kiosk Interface

2009-05-06 Thread live
This has nothing to do with hygiene and everything to do with ROI. Touchscreen vs simple screens in price are VERY different. Currently simple screens get spraypainted ALL the time. But at least their cheap. In design, location context matters. On May 6, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Christian