Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-16 Thread Sam Menter
Hi Nik Ping an email all the way around the world and the only person to answer is in the same town as you! Just been talking through the same issue.Our take on it was that the top level should link to orientation pages, i.e. pages which act as a category page for the content below. This also

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-16 Thread Nik
Hi Sam, Good to receive a local reply! I see the benefit of orientation pages in ecommerce sites, but when looking at sites such as www.millfieldschool.com I'm not sure that an orientation page would offer much benefit to the user. The Millfield example allows the full drop-down content to be

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-15 Thread Nik
@Neil - I think structure should be clear and logical, having said that I still undecided yet whether a category or url-segment such as 'sports' could return a 404 if the user chooses to chop the url to get to it. No links within the site would point to /sports, only /sports/windsurfing etc.. so

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-15 Thread Oleh Kovalchuke
Hmm, the greater than sign has been lost in the web ether, I guess. It is the former: Home Sports: Windsurfing Oleh Kovalchuke Interaction Design is design of time http://www.tangospring.com/IxDtopicWhatIsInteractionDesign.htm On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Charles Boyung

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-15 Thread Neil Cadsawan
Nik, Yes, site structure should be clear and logical, but at what point in the URL is the URL no longer important to users? I'd really like to do a study to find out. But my guess is that if your navigation is clear and logical, users won't care what the site structure is. I'd say the only time

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-15 Thread Nik
Neil, Thanks for your reply. I see what you mean, but I would think having category/sub-category titles and product names in urls would be better for SEO. It's only my personal preference, but having a 1:1 to structure helps me get a 'feel' for the site, the content architecture and generally

[IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread nik
Hi all, I’m putting together some recommendations for using mega drop-down navigation. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/mega-dropdown-menus.html I’m interested in the opinion of the iXDA list on whether the top-level navigation items should lead to pathway (or landing) pages, or whether they can

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Lists Account
On a personal note, I love these menus. You have the potential to get a great index of a site or an area of the site, capitalizing on the scanning we do nowadays, without taking up an entire page for navigation. I have run into the same question on category indexes/introductions and the relation

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Oleh Kovalchuke
The category pages might be useful for casual, What else is there? browsing. I recommend skipping them, because you can support this behavior from the target page. If you decide to skip building category pages, incorporate categories in breadcrumbs. For instance: Home Sports: Windsurfing --

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Cadsawan
Why must navigation and structure be 1:1? They are separate, yet admittedly related concepts. Users don't care about structure. They care about finding the right content. Navigation is one of those ways they do that. Don't just think about the usability of the dropdowns but also their

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread laurie kalmanson
another nice use of these mega nav dropdowns is including callouts, promos, featured items as part of the space . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46723

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Charles Boyung
If you decide to skip building category pages, incorporate categories in breadcrumbs. For instance: Home Sports: Windsurfing What would your links be here? Home and Sports: Windsurfing or Home Sports: and Windsurfing? I could potentially see a case for what you are saying if you use the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Charles Boyung
Why must navigation and structure be 1:1? Um, because contrary to what you said after this, navigation and structure are not just related, they ARE the same thing, at least in terms of this discussion. You have a navigation tree to follow from one page to the next. If that isn't structure, then

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Charles Boyung
another nice use of these mega nav dropdowns is including callouts, promos, featured items as part of the space I guess your definition of nice is different than mine. I personally hate it when my navigation has all of that extra junk there, both as a user and as a usability analyst. It really

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Cadsawan
If you're going to use a mega drop down, take advantage of it. Take rei.com for example. Look at the first dropdown for Camping Hiking. You can click on the main nav item and be taken to a landing page. It also has 4 internal structures, Gear, Gadgets Electronics, Camp Kitchen, Health