Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-10-03 Thread Chad McNees
ATMs and gas pumps are usable, but they make my brain hurt. This picture tells the story perfectly: http://www.cameronmoll.com/img/pics/gaspump1.jpg . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46113

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-10-03 Thread Elizabeth Buie
At 7:18 AM -0400 10/3/09, Arthur Fink wrote: I've another problem with the icons often used on elevator buttons, which I detailed in my new blog: http://arthurfink.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/icons-that-wonÂ…t-least-for-me That link doesn't work for me, Arthur. I suspect it's the special

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-10-03 Thread Karl Proctor
Elevator Buttons...the number of times I've hit the wrong button in Shanghai! In some of the better office buildings, you push the button to select your floor, but if you make a mistake, then you push and hold the button (for 1-2 seconds) to 'unselect' the floor! Simple! But, not many elevators

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-10-02 Thread fecsx
i believe in dynamic products which have multiple touchpoints and tactility is compatible/synchronized with interface to serve multiple scenarios. eventually everything connects as eames said. 1. elevator buttons are weird..aren't they? u have to push buttons whenever u want to travel vertical:F

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-30 Thread Ken Mohnkern
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:32 PM, dbr...@gridironsoftware.com wrote: Oh, don't getme started! :) . . . 4. T-shirts with irritating little tags that either a) annoy you by itching/poking your neck or b) stick up out of the top of the t-shirt like a tiny little I'm a dork flag. Oh, but wait.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-29 Thread Knake, Lena
von Catherine Ryan Gesendet: Montag, 28. September 2009 06:16 An: disc...@ixda.org Betreff: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things OK - so we work in the world of digital. Here the affordance is a perceived one. But what about our real lives? Here's the thing - I want to start a list of unusable real

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-29 Thread Sheri Hyman
Ah yes, the alarm button in the elevator. In our apartment building elevator, it's the lowest button, so it's the first one that all toddlers learn to push. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46113

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-29 Thread Don Habas
1. Elevator buttons: when I press the wrong floor (which is quite the frequent occasion in my uncaffienated state before 12pm) why can't I unpress my mistake? If I wanted to go to the 20th floor, and a bunch of people were going to floors below mine, I would just unpress all of those. Quite

[IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Catherine Ryan
OK - so we work in the world of digital. Here the affordance is a perceived one. But what about our real lives? Here's the thing - I want to start a list of unusable real life things 1. Elevator buttons: when I press the wrong floor (which is quite the frequent occasion in my uncaffienated

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Laura Schertler
I encounter something unusable every day! I think there should be a community list that people can access and add/comment thereto. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Catherine Ryan cather...@barros.com.auwrote: OK - so we work in the world of digital. Here the affordance is a perceived one. But

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Morville
...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Laura Schertler Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:24 AM To: Catherine Ryan Cc: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things I encounter something unusable every day! I think there should

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread gMulder
un-pressing in the elevator is cool - in korea they have that. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46113 Welcome to the Interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Adrian Howard
On 28 Sep 2009, at 06:34, gMulder wrote: un-pressing in the elevator is cool - in korea they have that. [snip] Interesting. I did a web site for an elevator company and I talked about some usability stuff with one of their guys. Amongst other things they said that they generally didn't

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Maurice Carty
Why do they make/sell cars with speed limits over 220KM/h when the maximum speed limit is 100KM/H. In Toronto getting caught going 20KM/H over the speed limit results in having your car towed and your drivers license suspended. So why do the sell cars that is 2-3 times the legal speed limit on the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Stephen Holmes
Hi Catherine, Fun post to read late at night here in OZ! Usability didn't start with the web. Tactile products with usability issues are generally designed by an Industrial Designer who is generally trained to deal with these things, however they are often designed by mechanical engineers who

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Jennifer R Vignone
: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things Why do they make/sell cars with speed limits over 220KM/h when the maximum speed limit is 100KM/H. In Toronto getting caught going 20KM/H over the speed limit results in having your car towed and your drivers license suspended. So why do the sell cars that is 2-3 times

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread dave malouf
uh, here's my thought reading this thread. 1. it is always great to catalog failure. Scott Berkun in his presentations talks about this a lot. 2. this feels thought a bit off. You start out basically saying as a digital designer there is nothing I can do about this, but let's create a list of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Bryan Minihan
Ryan Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:16 AM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things OK - so we work in the world of digital. Here the affordance is a perceived one. But what about our real lives? Here's the thing - I want to start a list of unusable real life things 1

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Pierre Roberge
*Catherine said: *3. Coffee cups without handles: OK - I'm a great lover of style and aesthetics, however when it burns my hands *off...I'd find it more classy to have a handle and not have tears in my eyes from lifting my beloved caffeine to my *mouth. I read somewhere that in China, cups don't

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Jack Moffett
On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Bryan Minihan wrote: 6. Lawn Mower height controls: Maybe it's just mine, but to change the height of my lawn mower, I have to shift some impossibly gunked up slider on all four wheels to the exact same position. How about putting some numbers on those

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Pierre Roberge
* Maurice said: * Why do they make/sell cars with speed limits over 220KM/h when the maximum speed limit is 100KM/H? Acceleration? ;-) Pierre Roberge Customer Experience Manager, etfs #2193 819.566.2901 www.etfsinc.com -- The information transmitted is intended only for the person

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread pauric
Catherine: I want to start a list of unusable real life things Every design will have a subset of users who find it unusable. There's no such thing as the perfect design. Its part of the human condition to continuously add to our internal list of things that peeve us as we get older.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread John Gibbard
I used to use pictures of 'real life interaction design' in my presentations to clients and colleagues to explain what it is I do. I've always used analogies to explain things and showing something broken/unusable is great. But, in order to put a positive spin on things when problems have been

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread mark schraad
I want all of it. The good, the bad, the lame, the arrogant, simple minded, the pedantic, the long winded and the short snarkiness. This forum is about throwing your views out there. There are some week, some months even that I don't have time to respond to anything... other days I have a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Charles B. Kreitzberg
...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Carty Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:48 AM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things Why do they make/sell cars with speed limits over 220KM/h when the maximum speed limit is 100KM/H

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread mark schraad
my bad... this posted to the wrong conversation. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, mark schraad mschr...@gmail.com wrote: I want all of it. The good, the bad, the lame, the arrogant, simple minded, the pedantic, the long winded and the short snarkiness. This forum is about throwing your views

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Billy Cox
What we need is a button that shocks the user if they press the button more than necessary. ;-) The type of person that typically acts as though they can speed up the elevator with multiple button presses deserves it. Adrian Howard wrote: On 28 Sep 2009, at 06:34, gMulder wrote: [snip]

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Jim Drew
From: Stephen Holmes stephenwhol...@me.com 1. Elevator buttons - I agree, however what stops somebody who un-selects YOUR floor so that they go straight past yours to theirs? Scenes of elevator rage - (pictures at 10!) Solve that one and you'll be rich! Is that cause of elevator rage going to be

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Alan Salmoni
As long as we don't the same type of intelligent lifts as in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - these were given prescience so they knew where to be and where to go and as a consequence got depressed and sulked in the basement... One subject close to my heart (and other parts) is that of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread Himanshu Agrawal
...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things Why do they make/sell cars with speed limits over 220KM/h when the maximum speed limit is 100KM/H. In Toronto getting caught going 20KM/H over the speed limit results in having your car towed and your drivers license suspended. So why

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread colin krawchuk
As for cups I once asked a wiater in a dim sum restuarant in Calgary why the tea cups did not have handles and he said if the cup of tea was too hot to hold in my hands it was probally to hot to put in my mouth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Unusable things

2009-09-28 Thread dbrown
Oh, don't getme started! :) 1. The tendency for humans to stand at the very edge of a baggage carousel so you can't see your bag, you need to excuse yourself into the circle when you do see it, then run the risk of injuring someone getting the bag off the conveyor. If they'd stand back 3