Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thanks Even I was going to try and circle back to this today. We do have the wish to list product names, notably for supported formats and interoperability. The http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/geoserver/ page lists for example: *Server data from a variety of data sources* Vector:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:10:52PM +0200, Even Rouault wrote: > Sandro mentionned GIMP's "like Photoshop, only better" motto but on > https://www.gimp.org/ no mention of Photoshop I could find They must have received a call from lawyers. But I'm sure I didn't dream that motto, or if I did, I was

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

I just got off the phone with a client that is interested in migrating to open source tools. They problem is they don't know where to start. They know what proprietary tools they are using, they know what features they are using, they know about OSGeo, but rapidly get lost in all the projects

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi, The last 3 sentences of this statement make me worry for more future conflicts. What happens when the Marketing Committee (which has the mandate to outreach for OSGeo and create the new web site) conflicts with the new Website Management Team (part of Systems Administration Committee)

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On jeudi 21 septembre 2017 11:20:54 CEST Jeffrey Johnson wrote: > We have that kind of page here > http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/about/migrate-open-source-gis/ ... The > link was removed from the hero area when Steve Feldman changed this in > Boston, so there is no content there now. > > Are we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thanks that is a great example - this is the roll I hope that http://osgeo. getinteractive.nl/choose-a-project/ will play (now that is actually working correctly). I am happy to try an experiment and see if this is sufficient, I just do not want to lose track of the vision that we are helping

[OSGeo-Discuss] Kickoff meeting (IRC) for the Code-in

Following Madi's announcement on the Google Code-in http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Google-Code-In-GCI-2017-just-announced-And-we-want-to-participate-td5335036.html we're having a kickoff meeting on IRC this coming Monday. Please join if you have questions and ideas for tasks for the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Comments inline: > Thank you Ben, this is absolutely correct: we have an amazing vibrant > community, and we need a front-end website that fosters and promotes OSGeo > projects (especially those in OSGeo incubation as well as OSGeo Community > projects) and OSGeo initiatives such as the Summer of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thanks Ben, and mentioned above that is why these project pages lead with a team picture. Maria offered similar words yesterday. I really like the idea of emphasizing this aspect on the "what is opensource" page. Outreach to people who are not part of our community is a challenge; one of the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

> On 09/21/2017 06:45 PM, Daniel Kastl wrote: > > I think "Switch2osm" is a very good example how to help migrating to > non-proprietary tools: https://switch2osm.org/ > I quickly went through their site and as far as I could see, competitor > names only appear in case studies. What about names

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

We have that kind of page here http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/about/migrate-open-source-gis/ ... The link was removed from the hero area when Steve Feldman changed this in Boston, so there is no content there now. Are we not willing to even mention the names of these proprietary products for fear

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thank you Daniel, +1 On 09/21/2017 06:45 PM, Daniel Kastl wrote: I think "Switch2osm" is a very good example how to help migrating to non-proprietary tools: https://switch2osm.org/ I quickly went through their site and as far as I could see, competitor names only appear in case studies. Maybe

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] service interruption

Services are back online. -jeff On 2017-09-21 1:57 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote: There is an issue at our hosting at OSU Open Source Lab, affecting osgeo.org, trac, wiki instances.  They are tackling now. -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi all, This is exactly what I had in mind. We cannot really worry that people might think we are promoting proprietary software, that is not the case. We can worry that someone might find a way to sue us for using their brand in our promotional materials Don't forget that "Microsoft loves

[OSGeo-Discuss] service interruption

There is an issue at our hosting at OSU Open Source Lab, affecting osgeo.org, trac, wiki instances. They are tackling now. -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

I think "Switch2osm" is a very good example how to help migrating to non-proprietary tools: https://switch2osm.org/ I quickly went through their site and as far as I could see, competitor names only appear in case studies. Maybe we could have "switch2foss" in a similar way. It's a very good idea

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Add your avatar to wiki pages

On 2017-09-21 10:16 AM, Sandro Santilli wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:42:48AM -0300, Jeff McKenna wrote: Hi everyone! Have some geek fun and magically add your avatar (from Gravatar/Libravatar services) to your OSGeo wiki pages. The wiki syntax is: Actually this is even easier

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

All, I’ve been following this thread and this does seem like a good way to address most if not all the thoughts. Another side to this would be in the ability to let the user(s) add to the keyword list of “other” geo products out there, whether FOSS or Prop. It would allow for a useability

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi Ben, Many thanks for your inspiring email and for bringing the focus back to the community. As Jeff has also elucidated, the greatest strength of the OSGeo Foundation is the community that all of us have helped nurture. Ben, I eagerly look forward to welcoming you as  as OSGeo Charter

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Add your avatar to wiki pages

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:42:48AM -0300, Jeff McKenna wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Have some geek fun and magically add your avatar (from Gravatar/Libravatar > services) to your OSGeo wiki pages. The wiki syntax is: > > Actually this is even easier with the updated User template [1]: just

[OSGeo-Discuss] Add your avatar to wiki pages

Hi everyone! Have some geek fun and magically add your avatar (from Gravatar/Libravatar services) to your OSGeo wiki pages. The wiki syntax is: See an example at the top of: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna Read about the implementation at:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On 2017-09-21 8:02 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 21/09/17 19:54, María Arias de Reyna wrote: In fact, publishing blog posts comparing closed and FLOSS is also very helpful. If you are doubting what kind of software to use, a good comparison with table feature comparisons is very handy But

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On 21/09/17 19:54, María Arias de Reyna wrote: In fact, publishing blog posts comparing closed and FLOSS is also very helpful. If you are doubting what kind of software to use, a good comparison with table feature comparisons is very handy But that should be outside the project page, because we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi, My 2 cents... Why not just make a section for migrate from and put there a number of solutions for migration. There's not only one solution to arcgis and maybe not just a single software but a combination of free software. Aside of a project put a link to that section, to drive the users to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Dear All, If the aim is only to help new users who are not aware of Free and Open Source Geospatial Software, it could be better to have a dedicated page which allows new user to input keywords (e.g. the present software they are using, of the OGC standards compliance they are looking for etc.)

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Andy Turner wrote: > Hi, > > It is possible to come up with a set of tasks and tests used to confirm and > classify what software are capable of. Working out what is included and how > this is included is non-trivial and I think this

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi, It is possible to come up with a set of tasks and tests used to confirm and classify what software are capable of. Working out what is included and how this is included is non-trivial and I think this is in the domain of the Open Geospatial Consortium and the standards defining

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On 21 September 2017 at 10:15, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 08:33:05PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: > >> How much of your initial concern was providing a link? Or is it just >> displaying the name (switching to MapInfo for the example here). It would >> be kind of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi all, Let’s go back to the legal issues. ESRI provides its clear guidelines about how to use its products name, web link and logo here: http://www.esri.com/legal/weblink-logoagreement. Please read through the license agreement. I don’t think we can meet all the terms and conditions

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote: > Moreover I wonder that no one react on my main sentence: > > "I'm pretty much convinced that more effort to help our OSGeo projects > improving on every level (e.g. documentation, reach out, testing, etc) is > the key

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

As a regular user of proprietary GIS software (ArcGIS, FME, Oracle Spatial etcetera) I can assure that it is very valuable to have some sort of guidance in the diversity of the FOSS landscape. I agree that "similar proprietary products" isn't the right label. However, instead of the proposed

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Maria, I agree with you, presenting links to proprietary software on the OSGeo website is nonsense. I've just reread my initial mail and I can't see anything in it against support for migration. Moreover I wonder that no one react on my main sentence: "I'm pretty much convinced that more

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

>> On 20 September 2017 at 02:41, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote: >>> >>> Dear OSGeo community >>> >>> I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to >>> "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention. >>> >>> My comment there: >>> >>> "I support and concur

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

That can work Sandro, and thanks for participating on the ticket. I do find value in listing those keywords (under an appropriate heading) to reassure people they have found what they are looking for. Indeed I hope these pages will be shared as a link when people ask "You are still using MapInfo?

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] R: [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Marc there is also the opportunity for us to grow as an organization. Many of the points brought up in this discussion, and the earlier one on listing open source projects, were voiced by myself back in March as I gradually came to terms with this scope of work. I think it was Jeffrey who first

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] R: [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Hi all, An observation from my end: this apparently has become an argument to frame a person - who has done more for our community than I can list - as if he is insulting and offending that same community. Unsuccessfully, I am glad. From the almost deadly silence I deduct no collective cry