Re: [slim] Re: Yes, SB2 as alarm clock

2006-03-04 Thread Jack Coates
Mark Lanctot wrote: ... I'm trying to learn perl but it's been very frustrating so far. I wanted to write a plugin from scratch but it's so confusing I just decided to modify the DateTime plugin to do this. ... Slimserver is a tough place to learn -- I do fairly well in Perl, but it's

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread JJZolx
Can anyone tell me... is the renowned geekport of the Squeezebox an output only interface, or does it also have ability to be used for input? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile:

[slim] Re: Yes, SB2 as alarm clock

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
stinkingpig Wrote: Slimserver is a tough place to learn -- I do fairly well in Perl, but it's quite complex, and I haven't been able to make any headway in it the few times I've taken a stab at something. I'm lucky to have two hours in a row to work on a side project like this, and

[slim] Re: Is there any way to run Pandora through SlimServer?

2006-03-04 Thread NWP
mherger Wrote: And afaik there won't be a Pandora integration into the slimserver (please search the forum for the discussions). Oh, is that one of those things that is only going to be integrated with the squeezeboxes and not slimserver, sort of like SqueezeNetwork? -- NWP

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
AFAIK it's output only. At least, those are the advertised capabilities. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread:

[slim] Re: sb3 browing issue

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
There was a problem with SB2/3 and some versions of the server, where the remote keys were doubling up. What version of the server are you running? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile:

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
Just for amusement, I visited the good old page. http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audiotron/producthome.asp It's still currently unavailable :-) -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile:

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread JJZolx
Michaelwagner Wrote: Just for amusement, I visited the good old page. http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audiotron/producthome.asp It's still currently unavailable :-) You gotta wonder if the Squeezebox design, with its total lack of user controls and the goofy case designs, purposely

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
If I understand the timeline, they co-existed in time. The minimalist approach of the SLiMP3 was probably because that was all they could do in a garage design (and it's quite impressive that they did what they did). Why the design continued that way when the SB1 hardware did have the ability

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Pat Farrell
Michaelwagner wrote: Why the design continued that way when the SB1 hardware did have the ability to handle limited key input and so forth is a bigger question. Well, the name of the company gives away the philosophy. It is Slim Devices. The idea of a slim client is a good one ... And the

Re: [slim] Re: Is there any way to run Pandora through SlimServer?

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Herger
Oh, is that one of those things that is only going to be integrated with the squeezeboxes and not slimserver, sort of like SqueezeNetwork? Pandora is in fact only running on SqueezeNetwork. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
pfarrell Wrote: The Audiotron, for all that it wasn't as audiophile, was a more complete solution and for that reason, appealing. For your needs, you can claim. Please don't make such claims for me Pat, I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not even making such claims for myself. I had

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
Michaelwagner Wrote: Now you can't put a knob on a remote without turning it into a 2 hand remote, but I have seen remotes with knurled knobs that do essentially the same thing. I had a VCR with one years ago (the VCR died, so I threw out the remote, so I can't include a picture, but the

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread JJZolx
pfarrell Wrote: The idea of a slim client is a good one ... And the other approach has been taken by many folks, from Turtle Beach to Sonos and now Microsoft and Apple. Sounds like a trend. Maybe there's a good reason. I can not understand why people want controls and buttons on the

[slim] Re: Ugh, coworker is buying a Sonos

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
Gildahl Wrote: I own a couple of SqueezeBoxes and just visited the Sonos site for the first time upon reading this thread. the Sonos is definitely a cool looking product (at 3x the price per station, it should be), but it really is in a different category than the SB. To me, the SB is

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Pat Farrell
JJZolx wrote: pfarrell Wrote: And the other approach has been taken by many folks, from Turtle Beach to Sonos and now Microsoft and Apple. Sounds like a trend. Maybe there's a good reason. Sure its a trend. Turtle Beach's product died. Microsoft and Apple are in bed with the content

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Pat Farrell
Michaelwagner wrote: pfarrell Wrote: The Audiotron, for all that it wasn't as audiophile, was a more complete solution and for that reason, appealing. For your needs, you can claim. Please don't make such claims for me Pat, I think you misunderstood my point. Probably so. I'm not even

[slim] Re: How to Edit Radio station to display Call Letters?

2006-03-04 Thread jimbob67
Well, double D-Oh!!! Dunno how I missed that. Sorry to see it can't be made to display on the SB itself. Also, I tried this with text editor on my Mac. After opening slimserver.pref there was no favorites section so I just typed in the two favorites paragraphs per the example in the correct

[slim] WDS network issues

2006-03-04 Thread danco
My Mac (OS 10.4.5) is connected to two Squeezeboxes wirelessly using two Airport Extreme base stations as main and remote in a WDS network (the Mac to main base station is a wired connection). By the way, my DHCP server is my router, wired to the main base station. Apple states (and I have

[slim] NETGEAR model DG834PN WPA-PSK connection problem with Squeezebox 3

2006-03-04 Thread shinyspoon
Hello, First post, new SB3 user, please be gentle.. NETGEAR model DG834PN Firmware V1.03.18 – Latest and only version available. SLIMSERVER: SlimServer_v2006-03-04.exe Firmware version: 35 WINXP SP2 fully patched, new install. Successful connections using: Disable - This will disable the

Re: [slim] WDS network issues

2006-03-04 Thread Steve Baumgarten
danco wrote: So how can I tell which base station the Squeezebox is connecting to, and can I force it to choose one over the other? I had a similar problem and solved it by turning on MAC filtering and setting things up so that Squeezebox connection attempts are rejected by the undesirable

[slim] Re: Ugh, coworker is buying a Sonos

2006-03-04 Thread radish
Michaelwagner Wrote: You are, of course, correct, radish. If SSL is good enough for the internet at large, it's going to be OK in a 200 foot wireless radius. My comments about wardriving a cray were meant to be humourous. And they were :) I was just imagining a trailer with one of those

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Robin Bowes
JJZolx wrote: I'd never buy a preamp, for instance, that only used a remote control. Imagine not being able to walk over to your stereo and turn a knob or press a button to turn the damned thing up or down. That's the Squeezebox. I agree with this - I'd like to be able to control the SB

[slim] The SqueezeBox Audiophile Solution

2006-03-04 Thread Masterbaron
Many have questioned why SD doesn't market an audiophile form factor SquieezeBox - there's been much talk about this and even I was posting in the past hoping for a positive response. SD maintains they need a mass market device and yes, they have one but audiophiles have championed the 19 rack

[slim] Re: WDS network issues

2006-03-04 Thread danco
Thanks, that did it. Just set the main base station to only accept the remote station, not the SB. Had to go through the setup again on the SB, at first it couldn't find the network. But now it is getting a sensible 80% strength while before it was hovering around 20% (the more distant SB had

[slim] Re: Is there any way to run Pandora through SlimServer?

2006-03-04 Thread Malor
Well, for what it's worth, here's a subscription that ain't happening because of no Slimserver support. -- Malor Malor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1961 View this thread:

[slim] Re: Yes, SB2 as alarm clock

2006-03-04 Thread Malor
Just FYI Mark. in Unix, everything is a file... except, of course, when it's not :) To talk to the user in a simple way, open standard input as a file and get lines from it. Likewise, you print to standard output. This is primitive and ugly, but it should work for simple stuff. --

[slim] Re: Yes, SB2 as alarm clock

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Lanctot
Malor Wrote: Just FYI Mark. in Unix, everything is a file... except, of course, when it's not :) To talk to the user in a simple way, open standard input as a file and get lines from it. Likewise, you print to standard output. This is primitive and ugly, but it should work for

[slim] Stream CD Audio from CD-drive without ripping?

2006-03-04 Thread richidoo
Is it possible to play a CD live through SB? I envision putting an Audio CD into the CD-ROM drive of the slimserver host PC, or other network shared CD-ROM drive, then stream it through SlimServer so that I can listen to it on my main system where Squeezebox is installed. As it is now, I have

[slim] Re: Is there any way to run Pandora through SlimServer?

2006-03-04 Thread richidoo
I got his in my Inbox yesterday. I don't even know what the hell Pandora is, but it seems this marketing email from Patrick did not get much of a reading. Posted in its entirety below: Dear Slim Devices Customer, We're excited to announce that we've added support for Pandora, an amazing music

[slim] Re: The SqueezeBox Audiophile Solution

2006-03-04 Thread richidoo
Nice job, Masterbaron! That must have taken a hunk of time to get it all integrated and packaged so neatly. I like the look of the stock SQB3 myself, but you are right - there is a need for a rack mount player. Pro studios could use a player that can play all compressed formats with excellent

[slim] Palm Controlling Squeezebox

2006-03-04 Thread shapin01
So I've read that with a palm tx with wifi using blazer as my browser I should be able to access my slimserver and control my squeezebox using http://yourserver:9000/Handheld/. After substituting my server address I continue to get that the page you requested cannot be displayed. There must be

[slim] Re: Stream CD Audio from CD-drive without ripping?

2006-03-04 Thread snarlydwarf
Media players don't really stream the PCM from the CD. What they do is tell the CD Drive, Please Play, and adjust the sound card's CD input for audio. (There is a little 3-pin wire that runs from your CD drive directly to your sound card.) The OS never actually sees that audio so has no way of

[slim] Re: Yes, SB2 as alarm clock

2006-03-04 Thread Malor
Open standard input, as a file, for reading. Open standard output for writing. It's possible perl may have automatically done some or all of this... I'm NOT a perl expert by any means. There's a function that gets a line from a file. Use that function on your new filehandle. That pauses,

[slim] Re: Stream CD Audio from CD-drive without ripping?

2006-03-04 Thread radish
Actually, these days, most media players (on Windows anyway) do stream the PCM - at least as an option. I know I don't have any of the CD audio cables hooked up in my machine and it works just fine. -- radish radish's

[slim] Problems Scanning large library in OS X with SS

2006-03-04 Thread Christopher Biscoe
Hi, I was an old SB2 user that eventually abandoned it because of chronic issues with the box and the server software. This was about 9 months ago. Recently, lured by both Squeezenetwork (generally) and Pandora (specifically) I jumped back in and bought 2 lovely new black SB3s.

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
pfarrell Wrote: I don't think the traffic on the forums is a reliable statistic. A fair point. How many people who buy it, connect it, and install the software and are happy are likely to post? I don't know. Does anyone know sales numbers for the SB3? We could subtract the complaints that

[slim] Re: Ugh, coworker is buying a Sonos

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
I went looking for a picture of our machine, but couldn't find any online. We had a Cray XMP on our machine floor. In the '80s, these were considered top of the line cryptanalysis machines. We didn't use them for that - we (well, the people we worked for) were solving chemistry and astronomy

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Pale Blue Ego
pfarrell Wrote: I'd love to know how many real world customers consider the SqueezeBox and decide against it because the setup is too hard. Heh, count my 77-year-old Dad as one of them. He's got XM Radio but wants to drop it at the end of his committment because he only listens to one

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Jack Coates
Pat Farrell wrote: Michaelwagner wrote: pfarrell Wrote: The Audiotron, for all that it wasn't as audiophile, was a more complete solution and for that reason, appealing. For your needs, you can claim. Please don't make such claims for me Pat, I think you misunderstood my

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
stinkingpig Wrote: Flexibility roots in and results in the issues that people complain about here whenever they want to tell SDI how to run its business. I don't understand this paragraph. And I don't understand how a suggestion about a UI element turns into telling SDI how to run it's

Re: [slim] Re: Yes, SB2 as alarm clock

2006-03-04 Thread Jack Coates
Malor wrote: Open standard input, as a file, for reading. Open standard output for writing. It's possible perl may have automatically done some or all of this... I'm NOT a perl expert by any means. ... here's an example program to play with:

[slim] Re: Problems Scanning large library in OS X with SS

2006-03-04 Thread Dan Sully
* Christopher Biscoe shaped the electrons to say... I was an old SB2 user that eventually abandoned it because of chronic issues with the box and the server software. This was about 9 months ago. Recently, lured by both Squeezenetwork (generally) and Pandora (specifically) I jumped back in

[slim] Re: Ugh, coworker is buying a Sonos

2006-03-04 Thread Dan Sully
* Michaelwagner shaped the electrons to say... I went looking for a picture of our machine, but couldn't find any online. We had a Cray XMP on our machine floor. In the '80s, these were considered top of the line cryptanalysis machines. We didn't use them for that - we (well, the people we

[slim] Re: Ugh, coworker is buying a Sonos

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
What a difference a decade makes, eh? 1984 state of the art, 1998 on the way to the washroom. I forgot the best part. That XMP took so much juice, we had to run a new line from the local hydro substation 3 blocks away. Not going to be easy war-driving, that's for sure :-) Need a second

Re: [slim] Palm Controlling Squeezebox

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Herger
So I've read that with a palm tx with wifi using blazer as my browser I should be able to access my slimserver and control my squeezebox using http://yourserver:9000/Handheld/. After substituting my server address I continue to get that the page you requested cannot be displayed. Have you

[slim] Re: AW: Slimserver on Hermstedt Hifidelio

2006-03-04 Thread brookheather
No the perl script complains about the XML:Parser not being compiled - when you run the suggested perl script to compile it, it complains because you need make and gcc installed. So part of what runs is actually compiled on the platform. - Simon. -- brookheather

[slim] Re: Moose 0.25 now up

2006-03-04 Thread Browny
Ok - downloaded it and it worked first time. I'm now very happy - one of the downsides to switching to MySQL was loosing Moose. Thanks for all your efforts Just a question for the future - If your running on MySQL is there any need to snapshot the whole database into a moo file? I

Re: [slim] Moose 0.25 now up

2006-03-04 Thread Kevin Weller
You may remember I reported: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Weller wrote: I really like Moose but whenever I use it synchronisation drifts very quickly, often within the first track after I start it. Well it seems to be resolved with v0.25 of Moose. It's been playing all morning with

[slim] Re: Russ Andrews PSU and SB3

2006-03-04 Thread Timbo
Thanks Michael - I shall just relax and chill to the music then:-) -- Timbo Timbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=933 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21704

[slim] Sonus pretty controller!!!

2006-03-04 Thread Timbo
Have just been to the Bristol hi-fi show and it looks like Sonus are bringing out a streaming device along the lines of SB that doesn't have built in amps (thier existing system is more a multi-room solution) but still features their incredible hand held controller...now that's interesting. I

Re: [slim] Re: Defaulting to the clock when SlimServer shuts down

2006-03-04 Thread Pat Farrell
superbad wrote: I can't believe there are people who shut off their computers. I seriously haven't turned my computer off (apart from when I've had to move or replace it) since I first got DSL in 1997. Mine go down periodically, have to change batteries in the UPS, upgrade the OS, etc. My

[slim] Re: Is it possible to play Shoutcast/Internet Radio on SB1?

2006-03-04 Thread kerry_nyc
mherger Wrote: I'm running Windows XP, using firefox, but also tried in IE with same result. I don't have PERL installed that I know of. SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 6309 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 I can't understand this. I tested this today with the latest nightly and cound not

[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-03-04 Thread cshaida
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[slim] The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michaelwagner
From time to time this comes up, as it did earlier today in this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19369 cshaida Wrote: the late, lamented 'knob'... but that's a whole 'nother story I'd like to renew my request for this kind of interaction. To recap, the late, lamented

Re: [slim] Re: Is it possible to play Shoutcast/Internet Radio on SB1?

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Herger
I have reinstalled with the latest nightly build and it still produces the same error. For me Shoutcast would be a nice to have, but not a necessity so I'll just disable it. This is a pitty (I'm using shoutcast a lot myself). But I'm pretty sure there's a networking issue. If only I knew

[slim] Player displays - Page Cannot Be Displayed Always When Starting SlimServer

2006-03-04 Thread tonymuffin
Everytime I start SlimServer the Player pane always displays: PAGE CANNOT BE DISPLAYED. Performing a REFRESH on the page does nothing. It only goes away and shows the correct page when I select something to play. I am running 6.2.2

[slim] How to Edit Radio station to display Call Letters?

2006-03-04 Thread jimbob67
Hello, I have only been using my Squeezebox for a few days and really like it! I feel stupid for not figuring this out, but have searched the FAQ's and Forums and haven't been able to find an answer. I have used the Internet Radio function to tune in an AM station from my old home town, KFAB.

[slim] New VS Old

2006-03-04 Thread tonymuffin
I purchased to of the previous Squeezeboxes just a few months prior to the new ones coming out. I really like the looks of the new Squeezebox. Is there that much of a preformance upgrade that I should sell my old ones and buy 2 new ones? Thanks -- tonymuffin

[slim] Re: New VS Old

2006-03-04 Thread tonymuffin
Yupthat's what I meant. Thanks -- tonymuffin tonymuffin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21742

[slim] sb3 browing issue

2006-03-04 Thread DeWayne
I have a wired sb3 that is with out doubt the best addition to my system. I've noticed a problem while a song is playing and I try to browse other artists, when I hit the down arrow it schrolls more then one line at a time and I have to arrow up to see what I missed. Am I missing somthing in

[slim] Re: Player displays - Page Cannot Be Displayed Always When Starting SlimServer

2006-03-04 Thread joncourage
Try adjusting the CSRF Protection Level setting under Server Settings/Security. -- joncourage joncourage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2837 View this thread:

[slim] Re: Itunes:Playlists question

2006-03-04 Thread kanoot
radish Wrote: One thing which sometimes gets people is the delayed write of preferences. For performance reasons the changes you make are not written to disk right away, so if you shutdown quickly after hitting Change you might lose the setting. Make sure you wait a few minutes before

[slim] Re: Sonus pretty controller!!!

2006-03-04 Thread rudholm
Timbo Wrote: Have just been to the Bristol hi-fi show and it looks like Sonus are bringing out a streaming device along the lines of SB that doesn't have built in amps (thier existing system is more a multi-room solution) but still features their incredible hand held controller...now that's

[slim] Re: Is there any way to run Pandora through SlimServer?

2006-03-04 Thread Malor
That certainly doesn't appear to be the case... when streaming from a server under my control, the connection count goes up by only 1 when streaming three devices. And I see only one TCP connection in my firewall. Now, it's possible that it's multiplexing three streams over one connection or

Re: [slim] Now Playing on PLAY key press?

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Herger
First let me say how much I LOVE my SqueezeBox. So do I. And I still love my good, old SliMP3, too :-). I did a search in the forums for this but I came up empty: It is possible to configure the squeezebox to automatically display the Now Playing screen when I press PLAY from a music

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread bklaas
Had an audiotron, hated the slow web interface, hated the window ce, hated the display, LOVED THE KNOB. one wonders if squeezebox could support a usb to take input from this-- http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/ pie-in-the-sky I know, but I must repeat: LOVED THE KNOB cheers

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Herger
one wonders if squeezebox could support a usb to take input from this-- http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/ I really like to show off this over and over again :-) http://www.herger.net/slim/powermate.avi -- Michael ---

[slim] Re: How to Edit Radio station to display Call Letters?

2006-03-04 Thread Paul Webster
As it happens - it came up recently in here. Not an optimal solution - but it does at least get the radio station name to appear in the Slimserver web gui (but not on the SB). http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21562 -- Paul Webster Paul Webster

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Paul Minott
How did you do that? On Saturday, March 04, 2006, at 12:26PM, Michael Herger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one wonders if squeezebox could support a usb to take input from this-- http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/ I really like to show off this over and over again :-)

[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-03-04 Thread moby_uk
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[slim] Re: How to Edit Radio station to display Call Letters?

2006-03-04 Thread Pale Blue Ego
This is strange, but I don't have a slimserver.pref file anywhere on my system. Hmm... -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Herger
How did you do that? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=61788postcount=38 But you obviously need to connect the Powermate to a computer. Not anything you'd want to have in the living room. Plus the interface with only one button/knob leaves a lot of room for improvement: it's

[slim] Re: The Audiotron Knob, Wheel Mice etc

2006-03-04 Thread cshaida
mherger Wrote: I really like to show off this over and over again :-) ) As well you should, it really is quite lovely. It's tantalizing in a concept car sort of way. If you build one that somehow works directly with the sb, I'll buy 3(!) The issue for me is not so much the