Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread rolski
Or Sooloos by Meridian :- http://www.sooloosbymeridian.com/ -- rolski You might be entitled to your own Opinions, but you're not entitled to your own Facts rolski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread slate
If money is no object you/we could also go for Bang & Olufsen BeoSound 5 and BeoSound 5 Encore At least they are a company that have had multiroom solutions for decades... if not the first... back when Sean was not even born http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beosound5 http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beosou

Re: [slim] playlist access

2011-08-04 Thread grahamlacey
I forgot to add that the entire music library has been rescanned. And "playlists" does show in the menu selection panel in the SB preferences. It just will not show on the SB menu panel itself. Random Mix does, and works. Most odd. -- grahamlacey

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Kaizen28;647137 Wrote: > Okay, so can someone tell me how the online services find and stream a > song to phenomenally quickly? > > I mean, they decimate my SqueezeServer and it's local! > Probably because they have better hardware than you have and they probably also have more optimized softwa

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread JJZolx
I think that in hi-end audio there will continue to be 'network' music players developed, but most or all of them will be DLNA based. Very few audio companies can afford to develop software on the scale of Squeezebox Server. Some of them may play internet radio or music services, but that's mostl

[slim] playlist access

2011-08-04 Thread grahamlacey
With MacPro, OS 10.7. SS ver 7.6. iTunes 10.4 I have two SBs, one SB3 connected by wireless. One SB2 connected by ethernet. SB3 can access playlists. SB2 cannot Have upgraded firmware. Any ideas most welcome -- grahamlacey

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Kaizen28
Okay, so can someone tell me how the online services find and stream a song to phenomenally quickly? I mean, they decimate my SqueezeServer and it's local! -- Kaizen28 Kaizen28's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/mem

Re: [slim] Spotify skipping

2011-08-04 Thread MeSue
I had a lot of issues the first few days after it came to the US, but it has been pretty good lately. Only time I have issues now is when my internet connection is poor during "prime time" hours (my ISP is on the case, though). Usually when I see it skipping and stopping, I can do a speed test and

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
maggior;646951 Wrote: > When the scan occurs, where is the data being stored - on the > controller? Since there is no server, I'm thinking it has to be stored > there. What if you have multiple controllers in the form of Andriod, > iOS, or Sonos devices? > The metadata are stored on the zone

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread pski
atrocity;647119 Wrote: > Ubuntu 11.04 here. 7.6.* doesn't work (OK with a small subset of FLACs, > won't scan my full library) and I lack the time and energy to fight with > it, so I'm happily using 7.5.5 Thanks, I'm sure there are a few major things and then stuff will smooth out. This has b

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread atrocity
pablolie;645956 Wrote: > Are all problems Windows and perhaps specifically Vista OS related? > Things seem to run OK in Linux land, the usual quirk or two excepted > here and there... Ubuntu 11.04 here. 7.6.* doesn't work (OK with a small subset of FLACs, won't scan my full library) and I lack

Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify

2011-08-04 Thread Geekeleh
I am a Roku Soundbridge user. Sadly, this device has been abandoned by Roku in favor of their streaming video players. However, I was able to use these excellent instructions to stream Spotify to my Roku Soundbridge, which is connected to a stereo system in my living room. After placing the dsbrid

Re: [slim] 7.6.0 on Linux - how to *completely* clear library?

2011-08-04 Thread JJZolx
If clearing the cache solved the problem then it suggests that scanning after you changed your music folder must have failed somehow. Along with your original problem, something obviously isn't right. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Pr

Re: [slim] Rhapsody no longer plays on Squeezebox Classic

2011-08-04 Thread MikeConley
I was able to fix the Rhapsody non play issue by plugging my SB3 Classic into my wired network, disabled "bridging", went back to wireless and fine. This needs to be fixed as I use this feature. However, I also own an Integra DHC 40.2 which is connected to my wireless network via a Linksys wrt54gs

Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify

2011-08-04 Thread Geekeleh
I am a Roku Soundbridge user. Sadly, this device has been abandoned by Roku in favor of their streaming video players. However, I was able to use these excellent instructions to stream Spotify to my Roku Soundbridge, which is connected to a stereo system in my living room. After placing the dsbrid

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread pski
I'll edit this post with results. The beginnings were ugly since I had to manually edit server.pref to get the SBS to scan the shared folder. -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless

Re: [slim] 7.6.0 on Linux - how to *completely* clear library?

2011-08-04 Thread jimwillsher
Many thanks Erland for the instantaneous reply, were you watching me type? ;-) You are indeed correct, as usual! Clearing the cache has solved it Thank you :-) Jim -- jimwillsher jimwillsher's Profile: http://forum

Re: [slim] 7.6.0 on Linux - how to *completely* clear library?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Sounds like you either: - have some playlists in the playlist folder that refers to other files or - have the iTunes integration activated under SBS Settings/Advanced/iTunes or - have the MusicIP integration activated under SBS Settings/Advanced/MusicIP and set to "Import all song data from MusicI

[slim] 7.6.0 on Linux - how to *completely* clear library?

2011-08-04 Thread jimwillsher
Hi all I'm getting duplicates in my track listing, one showing /mnt/Music/Watermark and one showing /mnt/music/Watermark (capital M). However there is only one file, confirmed by SSH to the server. So I thought I'd clear down the library. No can do. I've tried changing the music folder to a fodl

Re: [slim] SqueezeServer not picking up new album from iTunes

2011-08-04 Thread Steinar Bang
> jaaen : > steinarb;646604 Wrote: >> Does a full wipe and rescan have any unpleasant side effects? (apart >> from taking time, that is...?) > I also use iTunes to rip my CDs and I have almost always done a full > rescan - for at least a couple years, and never had any problems - > other th

Re: [slim] 7.6.1 r32969 nightly build -> Cover art works again! Wohhoo!

2011-08-04 Thread Club1820
yep, good for you! :) I tried it also but still didnt work. still get hung on the pre-caching artwork. once again went back to 7.5.6. -- Club1820 Rotel RSP-1068, Rotel 1060 DVD, Rotel RCC-1055, Rotel 1095 Amp, Rotel 956 Amp, Rotel RLC-1040, M&K VX-860 Sub, Whatmough M30s, Squeezebox 3 Rotel

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread Club1820
I also just tried the aug 4 nightly build and I got the same results, - pre-caching artwork hang. I aborted it. Here is the end of the scanner log. I'm once again going back to 7.5.6 as I need my music. :) Mine has the same error as Pski and as before - "Warning: Image::Scale libjpeg error: U

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread pski
pski;646988 Wrote: > Hi erland, > > This looks like bug 17207: > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17207 > > Since I have another machine now loaded and a working backup, I'll go > back to the box that wouldn't scan and try the latest nightly. > > P So here we go: Uninstall 7.5.6-

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread Jeff Flowerday
Now playing art doesn't show for the "Not So Sirius plug in" either. Though if you hold you mouse over the placeholder it does popup with a bigger picture of the actual art. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: htt

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread ziza
The "real art" never shows up no matter how many other stations I play, even after being able to see "real art" on last.fm. Is there a way to clear the cache? Shutting down entirely, pulling the plug and restarting don't seem to do it. Ziza -- ziza -

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Herger
> Touch/Radio on MySB > Internet Radio > Music > Internet Only > 181.fm > > 25+ Stations > (note thumbnail art for all 181.fm listed stations) > > now select any station > Result on NP screen: No station art nor default art. > The station art is obviously there (as a thumbnail), no? That's workin

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread pski
erland;646818 Wrote: > Are there bug reports at http://bugs.slimdevices.com for the stuff > that's still not working for you ? > > See the community troubleshooting page for 7.6 for more information > about how to find open and solved 7.6.0 bugs and how to register new > ones if your problem isn

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread MediaCenter
At the moment I personally don't think there needs to be a future for streaming devices. Squeezebox is the best and there is nothing out there that competes with it in terms of scalability. The fact is that there is nothing new in audio that will change things drastically in future at least unti

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread toby10
Same with Apps like Sky, RadioIO, DI, none have NP station art nor thumbnails in the station listings menus. The Soma App does have thumbnails in the station listings menu, but no NP station art. -- toby10 toby10's Profile

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread ziza
mherger;646817 Wrote: > > An example of a missing tower station is > > http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s31426&partnerId=16 > > Interesting: this wouldn't give me the tower neither, but some "real" > > station artwork instead. Working as expected for me... Is this > something > you're

Re: [slim] Spotify skipping

2011-08-04 Thread MediaCenter
Bump -- MediaCenter Source Device: Transporter Amplifiers: NAD C272 x 2 Bridge Mono Speakers: Magnepan MMG Pre-amplifier: NAD C162 Room Correction: Inguz DRC MediaCenter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread oktup
Kaizen28;646749 Wrote: > Hi All > - My taste in music. Try to find "Change your mind" by Gary Numan or > "Thunderbirds are Go" by MC Parker. (I'm not too sure what this says > about me though.) I've got "Thunderbirds are Go" on cassingle, if you want a copy ;) -- oktup ---

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Muele;646948 Wrote: > > I think the new CEO will be key in "our" fate. And I also think the > ill-fated product called Revue will greatly influence what happens. > The interim CEO was in charge when Logitech purchased Slim Devices: http://www.dailytech.com/Logitech+Buys+Slim+Devices/article4633

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread maggior
Nikhil;646941 Wrote: > Yes they do, but since the only requirement for the server is to have an > SMB share, it is a lot more flexible than SBS. Also the scanning has > always been a gazillion times faster. They are obviously not storing as > much metadata as SBS, but I've always wondered since t

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
erland;646931 Wrote: > > It's hard to know what Logitech is going to do, your guess is as good > as mine. My guess is one of these three: 1. The SB line of products will continue their slow fade-away, until the point of no existence. 2. Logitech will sell off the product line to someone who w

Re: [slim] Logfile in 7.6

2011-08-04 Thread mr_hyde
Hi Michael, thanks for the repsonse. I would assume that was a part, where i played music. However, there are also parts when you receive similar results for MusicinfoSCR, Custombrowse or just from standard functions. -- mr_hyde 2 x Squeezebox 3 - SSOTS 4.12 - Squeezecenter 7.6.0 - QNAP TS4

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
erland;646882 Wrote: > Don't they do some kind of scanning when you add a SMB folder to the > library ? > Sounds kind of similar to how SBS works. Yes they do, but since the only requirement for the server is to have an SMB share, it is a lot more flexible than SBS. Also the scanning has always

Re: [slim] 7.6.1 r32969 nightly build -> Cover art works again! Wohhoo!

2011-08-04 Thread andyg
Great to hear! -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89350 ___ discuss

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Kaizen28;646749 Wrote: > > So, what are the next pretenders to the throne? What's the hardware? > What's the software? > If we are talking big companies, I believe the companies which might release something are: *Apple*: They soon have the iCloud and since before they have the iTunes Music S

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
toby10;646927 Wrote: > if Logitech really pulled the plug on the entire SB concept as I'd guess > that would also mean shutting down support forums for a defunct > product. > If this forum shut down today, someone else would start a new one tomorrow. And if they didn't, I'd start one on the day

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread toby10
andy, Yeah, could be. Software is not my strong point. ;) I'm just basing that on the fact that every PC/Mac OS update creates new issues with SBS for some users. How much of the fix for these update glitches are resolved on the SBS end vs the user making tweaks on his end I dunno. But even use

Re: [slim] Why no new apps coming out?

2011-08-04 Thread maggior
MeSue;646771 Wrote: > At least in the US version, you can not even browse by genres, which > makes discovery very difficult. It takes a lot of effort and third > party services to find out what you might like. > I find this to be a hassle myself. You seem to have to know what you are looking f

[slim] 7.6.1 r32969 nightly build -> Cover art works again! Wohhoo!

2011-08-04 Thread magnust
After lurking around in the forum seeing many many others having the same problem with 7.6.n with cover art missing from large parts of the music collection I thought I'd today post something positive instead :-) I've tried a couple of nightly builds but always the same thing, just a few random a

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
toby10;646903 Wrote: > So if the last SBS version is for Win7, you could not update your SBS > server computer to Win8 and expect it to function. I'm just using Win > as an example, pick your OS. The likelihood of the current version of SBS not working in Win8 is fairly low, Microsoft go to gre

Re: [slim] BBC Radio 3 HD outside UK

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
Blue_Arsed_Fly;646906 Wrote: > A mate runs an awesome service for anyone interested. > > 46 Sky channels including Sky Sports 1-3, all the movie channels, TV > guide & huge resource of radio channels FOR A TENNER A MONTH. No > messing about with proxys or any catch. > Yes, that sounds totally

Re: [slim] BBC Radio 3 HD outside UK

2011-08-04 Thread castalla
Thanks ... but NO thanks. -- castalla castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87614 __

Re: [slim] BBC Radio 3 HD outside UK

2011-08-04 Thread Blue_Arsed_Fly
A mate runs an awesome service for anyone interested. 46 Sky channels including Sky Sports 1-3, all the movie channels, TV guide & huge resource of radio channels FOR A TENNER A MONTH. No messing about with proxys or any catch. Mate who runs the site is generally always online to answer any que

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread toby10
SBS would continue to work as now, but you could not update your OS platform. So if the last SBS version is for Win7, you could not update your SBS server computer to Win8 and expect it to function. I'm just using Win as an example, pick your OS. Internet Radio would work but on a very limited

Re: [slim] 7.6 update - Scan stuck on pre-caching artwork

2011-08-04 Thread slate
danull;646695 Wrote: > Not sure it's only the scan...my scan worked but half my albums are > failing to use the cover.jpg and just have broken images. 7.6.0 is > garbage... You should try the latest 7.6.1 and take it from there http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.6 -- slate Main

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread andynormancx
Yes you could use your SB Touch indefinitely if Logitech vanished tomorrow. Only the mysqueezebox.com side of things would stop working. You could still use it for local music playback and internet radio. You would lose the various services like Naptser, Pandora etc Some of those could be restore

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
umapati;646880 Wrote: > Just a silly question being newbie using SQ touch..What will happen if > worst come worst Logitech people shutdown their SQ support..will we > able to play Internet radio OR PC music with the server installed on > our PC or SQ touch (tiny sbs)..? > I am asking this questi

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
bluegaspode;646863 Wrote: > When you point a Sonos to a new SMB folder - is the user aware of some > scanning process as well (i.e. some "please wait until I can show you > all artists") ? > > Without scanning (on I guess a rather slow SMB connection) how would > they be able to fill their menus

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread umapati
Just a silly question being newbie using SQ touch..What will happen if worst come worst Logitech people shutdown their SQ support..will we able to play Internet radio OR PC music with the server installed on our PC or SQ touch (tiny sbs)..? I am asking this question as we have already lost money

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread toby10
Touch/Radio on MySB > Internet Radio > Music > Internet Only > 181.fm > 25+ Stations > (note thumbnail art for all 181.fm listed stations) > now select any station Result on NP screen: No station art nor default art. The station art is obviously there (as a thumbnail), no? Try the same for the 1

Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-04 Thread umapati
At last got my SQ touch today..Started it playing Internet radio..Its amazing..Superb products..I have still not connected it to Sq sever on my PC..I think I will wait for few days to get stable server version..But I am unable to save my favorite stations independently..Do I need SQ server OR Mysq

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
I think the initial question has been answered pretty good. So I will continue the slightly off topic comparison between Sonos and SB. I think one of the biggest differences is that Sonos is pretty much plug'n'play that just works out of the box for most people. You can hardly say the same about

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread bluegaspode
When you point a Sonos to a new SMB folder - is the user aware of some scanning process as well (i.e. some "please wait until I can show you all artists") ? Without scanning (on I guess a rather slow SMB connection) how would they be able to fill their menus? -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'Sq

Re: [slim] Thinking about switching to Sonos (for a Restaurant)

2011-08-04 Thread pippin
Sike;646842 Wrote: > > For commercial use I think the Sonos will be better, but time will > tell... For "real" commercial use (beyond your small scale) Sonos doesn't work at all because you can't automate it. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*,

Re: [slim] Thinking about switching to Sonos (for a Restaurant)

2011-08-04 Thread Sike
Nikhil;646845 Wrote: > I have been using both Squeezebox and Sonos for about 5 years now, and > even though I'm much more of a SqueezeBox fan myself for use in the > home, for the usage scenario you describe, I think Sonos is the way to > go. Setup is dead easy, it can be maintained by folks with

Re: [slim] 7.6 update - Scan stuck on pre-caching artwork

2011-08-04 Thread Scidd0w
I'm using the 7.6 beta's on Win7 for months now with no problems. I updated to 7.6 final also with no problems. It's not all bad for everyone. I have a lot of single file flac images with embedded cuesheets and album art that work great too. -- Scidd0w --

Re: [slim] Thinking about switching to Sonos (for a Restaurant)

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
I have been using both Squeezebox and Sonos for about 5 years now, and even though I'm much more of a SqueezeBox fan myself for use in the home, for the usage scenario you describe, I think Sonos is the way to go. Setup is dead easy, it can be maintained by folks with little tech savvy, the networ

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread Nikhil
erland;646813 Wrote: > How does the browsing on Sonos work, does it only allow you to browse by > music folder or does it have same possibilities as Squeezebox to browse > "by artists", "by genre", "by year" ? Is it only the sorting > possibilities that differs compared to Squeezebox ? The menus

Re: [slim] Thinking about switching to Sonos (for a Restaurant)

2011-08-04 Thread Sike
Soulkeeper;646558 Wrote: > The sync problems sound like a network issue. Did you terminate the > cables yourself? If so, how experienced are you with stretching > Ethernet? > > On the wireless side, have you scanned for hidden networks that use > channel 11? Do the squeezeboxen have line of sig

Re: [slim] Thinking about switching to Sonos (for a Restaurant)

2011-08-04 Thread Muele
Regardless of all other (valid) advice, I would make a clean installation of version 7.5.3. In my opinion the most trouble-free and stable version since "forever". I have just returned to it myself. -- Muele BR Mogens 2 Radios (1 battery), 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Softsqueeze (at work),

Re: [slim] Why no new apps coming out?

2011-08-04 Thread jeebers
There's an mflow app in the works, according to their twitter. http://beta.mflow.com/ -- jeebers www.last.fm/user/gbennett115 www.soundcloud.com/artiefufkin jeebers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?us

Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread erland
pallfreeman;646730 Wrote: > Do keep up at the back, there. 7.6.1 is the work-in-progress. It's a bit > better. No, really. > Are there bug reports at http://bugs.slimdevices.com for the stuff that's still not working for you ? See the community troubleshooting page for 7.6 for more information

Re: [slim] Tunein Options stopped working after installing 7.6 update

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Herger
> An example of a missing tower station is > http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s31426&partnerId=16 Interesting: this wouldn't give me the tower neither, but some "real" station artwork instead. Working as expected for me... Is this something you're seeing all the time, or intermittently o

Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-04 Thread erland
Nikhil;646806 Wrote: > I've been using both platforms ever since, but I find that I use my > SqueezeBoxen a lot more. > How does the browsing on Sonos work, does it only allow you to browse by music folder or does it have same possibilities as Squeezebox to browse "by artists", "by genre", "by y

Re: [slim] Logfile in 7.6

2011-08-04 Thread mherger
JJZolx;646358 Wrote: > I have a feeling that stuff may have been added to logging by whoever > ports SBS to the QNAP. He probably forgot to disable it. Not sure, rather looks like the SugarCube plugin causing endless errors and warnings due to undefined variables. -- mherger Michael ---