Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
Let's see one thing very clear when it comes to fancy features like smarter playlists, on-the-fly transcoding to fancy formats and sample rates and especially complex library management: there is NOTHING else on the market for streaming clients that even comes close to the Squeezebox in this

Re: [slim] What should be in the next version of SqueezePad (part 2)

2012-08-23 Thread oysarl
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Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread michael123
No, I am not happy. I want to see MAJOR release every year, and service packs every quarter. I do not want to see basic feature set for 5 years. RE: Apple / Sonos - less relevant for me specifically, I am comparing to more upscale/audiophile-oriented market - Sooloos, Olive, QSonix, etc.

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
michael123 wrote: RE: Apple / Sonos - less relevant for me specifically, I am comparing to more upscale/audiophile-oriented market - Sooloos, Olive, QSonix, etc. OK, tell me about the library management and playlist management features Olive or Sooloos have. Also: if you want an xk$

Re: [slim] What should be in the next version of SqueezePad (part 2)

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
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Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread michael123
pippin, you're have a commercial product you sell so the current state of things is comfortable for you. iPeng is a nice application (when I tried it), although I work with Android devices. I paid Logitech so far around 3000$ for Transporter, Squeezebox 3 and Radio, and I'm willing to pay for

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread michael123
btw, pippin, you shall know the real situation on the market given the sales of iPeng michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
The server software is open and you didn't give a single point, yet, of what you are actually expecting except for unspecified major releases. What are you missing and who offers this? I'm definitely not happy with how Logitech is handling it's product line, to the contrary and you can be sure

[slim] Mp3Tunes dead - possible alternatives?

2012-08-23 Thread castalla
Is there anyone out there who could investigate whether minus.com could be implemented for SB? There's API info at http://minus.com/pages/api castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread michael123
Sooloos have quite power search engine, J.River have quite sophisticated GUI, and they have parametric EQ (as well as Amarra) All handle 192/24, many applications today handle DSD [ using Sox is a patch. Those like me who need to use it for half of their catalog suffer from poor performance,

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
Again: The Squeezebox is not a PC software. Tell me about devices which support all that AND have a decent UI. At the same time, not either or. I don't say the Squeezebox is perfect, it's far from that. I just STILL don't see anything better on the market. At no price point.

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread garym
Not recently, but I previously investigated Olive and it was very limited as compared with Squeezebox, although much more expensive. And to Pippin's point, I've seen nothing that comes close to the functionality (including sync across players, an important feature for me) combined with audio

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread bernt
It's not dead, It's way ahead. bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96134 ___

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread castalla
bernt wrote: It's not dead, It's way ahead. I agree ... best bit of media kit I've ever bought - and I've wasted a lot of cash on dud systems! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread HeavyB
RE: Transporter killed.. sadly.. but true. What precisely do you mean by this? Has it been discontinued? HeavyB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14935 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread garym
HeavyB wrote: RE: Transporter killed.. sadly.. but true. What precisely do you mean by this? Has it been discontinued? I think it was discontinued several years ago. In some markets, logitech has been selling off its remaining stock, rebadged as the Transporter SE. It is identical to the

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread erland
Sometimes I wish all these squeezebox is about to die threads instead could be focused on posting specific ideas regarding what new/changed features users are missing. I started a thread previously about this:

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread cncb
For me, as a somewhat new user it is very frustrating getting support so it seems pretty dead. Good luck getting a reported bug fixed unless you get everyone on this forum to complain/vote about it and therefore don't even dream about a new feature request. I would just like playlist groups

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread HeavyB
garym wrote: I think it was discontinued several years ago. In some markets, logitech has been selling off its remaining stock, rebadged as the Transporter SE. It is identical to the original transporter, with a plate over the hole left from not having the large knob in the middle (as they

Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?

2012-08-23 Thread Ron Thigpen
aubuti wrote: That's cool if it will work in my car. Thanks. Yes, yes it will. And is. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread JJZolx
cncb wrote: For me, as a somewhat new user it is very frustrating getting support so it seems pretty dead. Good luck getting a reported bug fixed unless you get everyone on this forum to complain/vote about it and therefore don't even dream about a new feature request. Are _any_ bugs being

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
cncb wrote: I would just like playlist groups (hierarchy) and predefined genre shuffle playlists (smartlists or whatever you want to call them). This kind of (standard) stuff should be built in and I shouldn't have to pay $50 to a 3rd-party developer to get it. So which other streaming

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread erland
cncb wrote: I would just like playlist groups (hierarchy) and predefined genre shuffle playlists (smartlists or whatever you want to call them). This kind of (standard) stuff should be built in and I shouldn't have to pay $50 to a 3rd-party developer to get it. I completely agree that

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread cncb
pippin wrote: So which other streaming hardware offers this standard stuff? Again: Not PC software (I would count iTunes since you can stream from there to real hardware but it can't do it, too). I don't understand. I consider LMS PC software since I run it on my PC (don't most people?).

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread cncb
erland wrote: Also, just to be correct, it's not really $50, the SQL Playlist plugin (which includes Dynamic Playlist) currently costs $20 for an unlimited license or $5 for a one year license. I stand corrected. $20 is not too bad but seems like a lot since I got a lifetime license for

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread pippin
cncb wrote: I don't understand. I consider LMS PC software since I run it on my PC (don't most people?). JRMC and MediaMonkey support both of those things as streaming software via UPnP which you can access with all kinds of hardware. So you can play dynamic playlists on your UPnP device

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread garym
pippin wrote: So you can play dynamic playlists on your UPnP device with JRMC or MediaMonkey and use your hierarchical playlists that way? Then what let's you stick with the Squeezebox? Probably the fact that you can't use it that way on the device or using a remote control but that you

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread garym
cncb wrote: I don't understand. I consider LMS PC software since I run it on my PC (don't most people?). JRMC and MediaMonkey support both of those things as streaming software via UPnP which you can access with all kinds of hardware. If you use MM, you might be interested in this

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread cncb
pippin wrote: So you can play dynamic playlists on your UPnP device with JRMC or MediaMonkey and use your hierarchical playlists that way? Then what let's you stick with the Squeezebox? Probably the fact that you can't use it that way on the device or using a remote control but that you

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread cncb
garym wrote: If you use MM, you might be interested in this software: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?89046-MonkeySqueezehighlight=monkeysqueeze I'm not really interested in that because I don't want to have to go to my PC to select music to play on my Squeezebox. I have been

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread MrC
I'm playing a dynamic playlist (smartlist) with JRMC via Whitebear to an SB Radio now. Works great, and the Whitebear/JRMC combo does gapless. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread garym
MrC wrote: I'm playing a dynamic playlist (smartlist) with JRMC via Whitebear to an SB Radio now. Works great, and the Whitebear/JRMC combo does gapless. interesting. good to know. curious, does this combo have a way of doing synched playback across several SB players?

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread MrC
garym wrote: interesting. good to know. curious, does this combo have a way of doing synched playback across several SB players? DLNA doesn't have the microsecond timing required to do synching. If the SBs are synced (via LMS/SBS), sync works as expected.

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread garym
MrC wrote: DLNA doesn't have the microsecond timing required to do synching. If the SBs are synced (via LMS/SBS), sync works as expected. Are you saying that if one syncs the players first from LMS, then starts JRMC later and plays someting via DLNA, the players stay synched? I'm guessing

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread MrC
garym wrote: Are you saying that if one syncs the players first from LMS, then starts JRMC later and plays someting via DLNA, the players stay synched? I'm guessing that is not what you mean. I appear to be mistaken about syncing. I was certain this worked, but seems it does not.

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread aubuti
cncb wrote: I'm not really interested in that because I don't want to have to go to my PC to select music to play on my Squeezebox. I've never used MM, but it was my understanding that it could be controlled via a remote. At least that's my recollection from several postings by a user by the

Re: [slim] Is Squeezebox dead?

2012-08-23 Thread erland
I would absolutely love if there were some competitor, either based on UPnP or based on some proprietary solution, which had similar features and characteristics as the Squeezebox. Unfortunately I haven't found anything yet within the same price range and I suspect the situation is pretty much