epoch1970 wrote:
> According to my tests I'd say it performs fine enough for synching
> across 2 separate rooms. But not exactly enough for 2 sources in the
> same room.
>
that's too bad. I have one situation where there are two players easily
heard within the same large room so less than perfe
azinck3 wrote:
> How good is "pretty decent"? As good as the sync between your Boom and
> Transporter? In my experience even a slight sync problem can make sync
> unusable.
According to my tests I'd say it performs fine enough for synching
across 2 separate rooms. But not exactly enough for 2
This looks great, and you certainly can't beat the price!
Three questions about it though:
1. Does it support full-speed async USB DACs without a hub, or is it
another one of these devices that does?
2. Does is support MOG when you're running a local LMS installation, or
is that one of the servi
I posted thiis via the email interface on Saturday, but I see that the
email -> forum connection is broken again, so I'll repeat my comments
here.
Great project! I ordered the components right after I read this post
(PogoPlug and USB DAC). The PogoPlug arrived first, so I did the
software insta
I've been trying to find a Pogoplug POGOP21 (POGO-E02) but it seems
those devices are also EOL...?
All I can find are Pogoplug Pro's or the newer (and more expensive)
V3/V4 Pogoplugs.
Is VAMP compatible with those devices ?
Alternatively I may jump on the Raspberry Pi train, and hope the USB
audi
psketch wrote:
> Sync seems pretty decent with my Boom and Transporter :-)
How good is "pretty decent"? As good as the sync between your Boom and
Transporter? In my experience even a slight sync problem can make sync
unusable.
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azinck3 wrote:
> Very interesting work. How's the sync performance between these
> devices? How about sync with hardware SBs?
Sync seems pretty decent with my Boom and Transporter :-)
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On 1/1/2013 10:15 PM, agillis wrote:
There has been a lot of discussion in this forum about a replacement for
the SqueezeBox. I worked on this problem over the holiday and I think I
came up with a good solution. Using a low cost ARM based system I was
able to build a box that basically does ever
Very interesting work. How's the sync performance between these
devices? How about sync with hardware SBs?
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Running a Pi with truehl's Squeezeplug for LMS and Triode's Squeezelite
via Mini Boombox - sounds great to me - no audio issues. Controllable
via Squeezeplay on PC, and Logitech controller app on android.
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MarcelG wrote:
> BTW ; if the Squeezelite package is picked up by the masses using the
> pogoplugs, raspberry pi's etc
>
To reach the masses, you need to put it on the shelves in the local
warehouses worldwide, doing that is going to be a completely different
challenge and I believe it's also go
agillis wrote:
> The only two things I don't have is
>
> - Display
> - Infrared receiver and remote control
>
> It would be easy to add both of these to the project but it would add
> anther $130 to the cost!! Since an iPod touch v4 is only $199 why would
> we want a display or remote?
>
> I g
I just wanted to shout out that I think this is a fantastic initiative
to keep the Squeezebox ecosystem alive.
The Raspberry Pi already drew my attention but I read that is has some
nasty audio quality flukes (in the current Model B version at least),
but the pogoplug in combination with a decent
maggior wrote:
>
>
> The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make that not a
> completely geeky endeavour without the problems that the duet had.
Well thats not to hard use an on-board web-UI or an helper app running
on your computer or why not both like my ethernet to ir ada
With the prevelance of iPods, iPhones, and Andriod devices, I think it's
reasonable to put forth a squeezebox replacement without a display and
rely on another device for the display/control. It seems to be working
well for Sonos.
The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make tha
JJZolx wrote:
> No, there's a hell of a lot more than that needed to make this an actual
> replacement for the Squeezebox.
>
> - wifi
> - display
> - infrared receiver and remote control
> - internal DAC
> - analog out
> - optical S/PDIF out
> - coax S/PDIF out
>
> This is a DIY project at best
Triode wrote:
> Unfortunately that method doesn't work with my dac - setting
> "dwc_otg.speed=1" means it can't connect. For those dacs using less of
> the usb bus its probably a good step, but I'm hoping they can fully
> resolve the packet loss issue as without doing so its not really
> appropr
agillis wrote:
> As for wifi this would be required to make this a true replacement for
> the SqueezeBox.
No, there's a hell of a lot more than that needed to make this an actual
replacement for the Squeezebox.
- wifi
- display
- infrared receiver and remote control
- internal DAC
- analog out
re: non-USB DAC. I plan to try the VAMP solution with a Turtle Beach
USB output card. Total cost less than $60.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036VO4X4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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Triode wrote:
> Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox:
> http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
One other interesting feature of this device is that it has optical
SPDIF out, so may be a good match for non-USB DACs.
--
agillis wrote:
> There has been a lot of discussion in this forum about a replacement for
> the SqueezeBox. I worked on this problem over the holiday and I think I
> came up with a good solution. Using a low cost ARM based system I was
> able to build a box that basically does everything the Sque
Triode wrote:
> Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox ... the sock
> firmware will run squeezelite and supports usb audio and async hifi
> dacs. It's about 3 times the price of the Pi, but its doing what I
> envisaged Squeezelite could do on an arm like device. Plus there's an
>
smiggs wrote:
> Have you tried the method mentioned at
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=20866 or am I
> missing something?
Unfortunately that method doesn't work with my dac - setting
"dwc_otg.speed=1" means it can't connect. For those dacs using less of
the usb bus its
Triode wrote:
>
> [My original target device was a Raspberry Pi, I'm hoping its usb driver
> can get fixed to make this a reality]
Have you tried the method mentioned at
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=20866 or am I
missing something?
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Triode wrote:
> Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox:
> http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
Yes, I ordered one of those too, probably for the same reasons as you
after the issues running a UAC2 DAC on the Pi. Not got mine yet. (But I
don't expect to have any issues with it,
An alternative is cubieboard ( http://www.cubieboard.org and can bought
from here
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/all-wholesale-products/511685.html ) but
unlike cubox no nice enclosure but much cheaper US$49 and has 1Gb RAM
and a SATA disk interface.
I got one before Christmas but haven't had
Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox:
http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
I got one this morning and the sock firmware will run squeezelite and
supports usb audio and async hifi dacs. It's about 3 times the price of
the Pi, but its doing what I envisaged Squeezelite could do
agillis wrote:
> The PogoPlug I'm using has a Marvell Kirkwood 1.2GHz (ARM) processor and
> 256 GB memory. You could run LMS on it if you wanted. I'm using
> squeezeplug as a base OS so this would be very easy to do.
>
> I never recommend running LMS on a unit like this becasue of problems
> wit
garym wrote:
> interesting that there is nothing that seems to function as a bedside
> radio. With all the alarm complaints that SB gets, I can understand
> this. But it seems like it would be nice to have a bedside player that
> one can listen to via speaker or headphone AND IMPORTANTLY control
aubuti wrote:
>
> And actually the Sonos hardware isn't too hard to grok. Very roughly
> speaking:
> Play:3 -- like the SB Radio, but with no display or controls
> Play:5 -- like Play:5, but bigger
> Connect -- like the SB Duet Receiver
> Connect:Amp -- like the SB Duet Receiver mated with an am
aubuti wrote:
> -- and multiple genres are easy in LMS.
>
Yes, I use multiple genres in some file tags. And easy to add multiple
genres in batch ways using mp3tag. (note, in the genre field use
double back slashes to separate genres, enter something like:
Rock\\Holiday
This will then show up
NFLnut wrote:
> That may be. The way I have my music categorized is by folders. I am an
> old radio guy. I was raised on, and worked in top-40/pop/rock radio in
> the (60s) 70s 80s. A few of my "hits" folders have several thousand
> FLACs in them. I often will cue up one of those folders for rand
NFLnut wrote:
> That may be. The way I have my music categorized is by folders. I am an
> old radio guy. I was raised on, and worked in top-40/pop/rock radio in
> the (60s) 70s 80s. A few of my "hits" folders have several thousand
> FLACs in them. I often will cue up one of those folders for rand
garym wrote:
> I rarely use "browse music folder". LMS is not really designed to use
> Browse Music Folder as a way of accessing music. Its internal database
> is based on tags, etc. So using BMF could be the cause of the hanging
> you see.
That may be. The way I have my music categorized is
NFLnut wrote:
> Honestly, and I know that I'm risking getting flamed BIG time on this
> board, but if Logitech is going to pull the plug, I think it's time to
> abandon or phase out LMS in any "home built" effort! I still think the
> Squeezebox is THE best music player on the market. It's truly a
Honestly, and I know that I'm risking getting flamed BIG time on this
board, but if Logitech is going to pull the plug, I think it's time to
abandon or phase out LMS in any "home built" effort! I still think the
Squeezebox is THE best music player on the market. It's truly a shame
that Logitech IS
erland wrote:
> Just for my understanding, is the licensing issues any different than
> for the current Vortexbox Appliance products which also includes a
> software player last time I checked ?
> At least my Vortexbox installation on a laptop have a software player
> built-in.
Technically not.
The PogoPlug I'm using has a Marvell Kirkwood 1.2GHz (ARM) processor and
256 GB memory. You could run LMS on it if you wanted. I'm using
squeezeplug as a base OS so this would be very easy to do.
I never recommend running LMS on a unit like this becasue of problems
with rebuilding a your libary,
Triode wrote:
> My original target device was a Raspberry Pi, I'm hoping its usb driver
> can get fixed to make this a reality
If not, there will be a Pi 2.0, or some other competitor offering even
more power and functionality for less money and space... It seems to be
a nicely developing space.
pippin wrote:
> Oh. And if you really want to sell it as an audio device you can add a
> healthy margin - something like 200-300% would be common - for
> distributors and the fact that you are in to open a can of worms
> regarding licensing. If you sell this thing as an audio device, you are
> vi
doesn't seem to have wifi? Or am I missing that
my stereo is not beside my router
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Triode wrote:
> This is indeed the type of device I envisaged when I started writing
> squeezelite. It's intended to be a good emulation of a squeezebox from
> a headless playback point of view and to support usb audio devices.
> When run on a low power arm device this gives a good alternative
agillis wrote:
> There has been a lot of discussion in this forum about a replacement for
> the SqueezeBox. I worked on this problem over the holiday and I think I
> came up with a good solution. Using a low cost ARM based system I was
> able to build a box that basically does everything the Sque
Oh. And if you really want to sell it as an audio device you can add a
healthy margin - something like 200-300% would be common - for
distributors and the fact that you are in to open a can of worms
regarding licensing. If you sell this thing as an audio device, you are
violating patents you have
You need a paid Pandora account to make it work with software players.
Rhapsody won't work at all. Spotify requires Triode's plugin.
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>
> Also, my question is related to whether one could run free pandora on
> this unit. The software SB players I use (squeezeplay) won't allow me
> to run the free pandora.
>
I'm guessing the reason Pandora doesn't work is because Logitech have
blocked software players from some m
erland wrote:
>
> Does it even have enough power to run LMS on it ?
>
My reading is that it would replace a TOUCH player. But LMS would still
need to run elsewhere (vortexbox, PC, NAS, etc.).
Also, my question is related to whether one could run free pandora on
this unit. The software SB pla
chill wrote:
>
> What would it take to make a software player do the job of a UE player I
> wonder. Are we in danger of killing off a UE Touch before it's even
> announced?
>
To kill a potential UE Touch it would have to be distributed and sold in
all warehouses where mass market users would b
chill wrote:
> This is excellent news. This is what I love about the Squeezebox
> community - despite the demise of the official product, or maybe because
> of it, the various community efforts (e.g. iPeng/Sqeezepad etc,
> Squeezelite, RPi and now the VAMP) are already making my spare Touch
> lo
This is excellent news. This is what I love about the Squeezebox
community - despite the demise of the official product, or maybe because
of it, the various community efforts (e.g. iPeng/Sqeezepad etc,
Squeezelite, RPi and now the VAMP) are already making my spare Touch
look redundant. Maybe I s
agillis wrote:
> There has been a lot of discussion in this forum about a replacement for
> the SqueezeBox. I worked on this problem over the holiday and I think I
> came up with a good solution. Using a low cost ARM based system I was
> able to build a box that basically does everything the Sque
There has been a lot of discussion in this forum about a replacement for
the SqueezeBox. I worked on this problem over the holiday and I think I
came up with a good solution. Using a low cost ARM based system I was
able to build a box that basically does everything the SqueezeBox does
for under $3
I suspect it's better to ask questions regarding MainSqueeze in the Roku
forum:
http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=31915
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I just installed MainSqueeze on the Roku and Logitech Squeezebox on my
PC. Three questions:
1. I can see how to move tracks into the Playlist window on the Roku
screen. But Playlists vanish when I change channels. Logitech Squeezebox
allows me to choose a Playlists folder. Can I create playlists
Mnyb wrote:
> I assume that the final goal is to have squeezelite outputting to those
> speakers :) which would make it squeezebox ,but I do agree that our
> Linux forum attract fellas with both audio and Linux skills even if
> better Linux support are generally found on specific Linux fora or Ra
I assume that the final goal is to have squeezelite outputting to those
speakers :) which would make it squeezebox ,but I do agree that our
Linux forum attract fellas with both audio and Linux skills even if
better Linux support are generally found on specific Linux fora or RasPI
.
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castalla wrote:
> Are there any Linux experts out there who can help me getting the
> Boombox speaker working in command-line linux using bluez-utils?
>
> Basically, the speaker and linux PC fail to pair. A different bt
> speaker pairs without issue.
>
> I'm completely stumped after days of go
Sorry, you've got the wrong forum. This forum is for the Squeeezebox
system, which has nothing to do with bluetooth.
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Are there any Linux experts out there who can help me getting the
Boombox speaker working in command-line linux using bluez-utils?
Basically, the speaker and linux PC fail to pair. A different bt
speaker pairs without issue.
I'm completely stumped after days of googling and fiddling with bluez.
d6jg wrote:
> For you the Onkyo dock would be a good move as its also an Airplay
> adapter. A rare beast.
> You could use the ipad as a player either docked (is ipad3 30 pin?) or
> via airplay - I assume you have some kind of hifi from your comments.
Yea I use a Marantz PM6003 Amp with a pair o
Is your Squeezebox Working today? Or did Logitech suspended all the
network broadcasting and remotely setup?
Thanks
Ant
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azinck3 wrote:
> LMS *is* open-source.
This is good news in the storm.
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pippin wrote:
> Bit perfect works with iPeng but depending on the dock hardware you use,
> you might have to set the volume to 100%
>
> It's also limited to a maximum of 48kHz/24bit except on iPad when using
> the camera connection kit in which case you can go up to 96/24.
>
> A few people have
Bit perfect works with iPeng but depending on the dock hardware you use,
you might have to set the volume to 100%
It's also limited to a maximum of 48kHz/24bit except on iPad when using
the camera connection kit in which case you can go up to 96/24.
A few people have done the full round trip bit
ReValveiT wrote:
> Another good audiophile alternative:
>
> iDevice (if you don't already own one - MANY already do - a 3rd gen iPod
> Touch can be had for little £££)
>
> iPeng! + the playback add on.
>
> One of the many digital dock / iPod USB enabled devices, or Airplay
> receiver.
>
> Tha
mdconnelly wrote:
> It would seem that Logitech abandoning the manufacture of Squeezeboxen
> is of far less concern than that of ongoing dev and support of LMS.
> The question I have is whether LMS can ultimately be supported and
> improved upon by an open source community... Is there anything
mdconnelly wrote:
> I've heard good things about using an iDevice with iPeng and the Pure
> i-20 dock (< $100) which serves as both a DAC with analog outs or using
> its digital output to your own DAC -- both options better than just
> using the iDevice headphone output.
>
> It would seem th
I've heard good things about using an iDevice with iPeng and the Pure
i-20 dock (< $100) which serves as both a DAC with analog outs or using
its digital output to your own DAC -- both options better than just
using the iDevice headphone output.
It would seem that Logitech abandoning the manu
For you the Onkyo dock would be a good move as its also an Airplay
adapter. A rare beast.
You could use the ipad as a player either docked (is ipad3 30 pin?) or
via airplay - I assume you have some kind of hifi from your comments.
d6jg wrote:
> Have an iPod Touch and iPhone 4S with iPeng + Playback on both. The
> Touch is second gen so a bit limited. I regularly use the iPhone as a
> remote player and stream from my home system when in hotels etc but to
> if I had a 3rd gen Touch then I would experiment with that as a play
Have an iPod Touch and iPhone 4S with iPeng + Playback on both. The
Touch is second gen so a bit limited. I regularly use the iPhone as a
remote player and stream from my home system when in hotels etc but to
if I had a 3rd gen Touch then I would experiment with that as a player
using initially a
That depends on what you consider "well pricey".
The Squeezebox Touch retailed around the £200 (UK) mark. The Onkyo can
be got for £140.
If you already own an iDevice you can add around a tenner for iPeng and
the playback, and you're there for £150 - £50 less than a Touch (was).
Plus you have t
There aren't that many decent digital iPod docks on the market. Best I
have come across is an Onkyo DS A5 but its well pricey!
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Another good audiophile alternative:
iDevice (if you don't already own one - MANY already do - a 3rd gen iPod
Tough can be had for little £££)
iPeng! + the playback add on.
One of the many digital dock / iPod USB enabled devices, or Airplay
receiver.
That'll give you all the lurvely Squeezebox
d6jg wrote:
> It has been done
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=22580
That page is about running Squeezeslave on a Pi. Squeezeslave is a very
different beast to Squeezelite, and is pretty much EOL. It doesn't look
like there is going to be any further work on Squeezeslave.
maggior wrote:
> Most people seem content to use general purpose uPnP or DLNA devices.
> These devices already will play mp3 files, so such a product already
> exists.
>
> A friend at work told me today I need to "give up on the squeezebox
> thing". He recently bought a Grace Radio because he
Most people seem content to use general purpose uPnP or DLNA devices. A
friend at work told me today I need to "give up on the squeezebox
thing". He recently bought a Grace Radio because he wanted something
generally compatable with his various uPnP devices. "Why do you need a
special server?"
djfake wrote:
>
> Good news is that the software will live on, but bad news is they own
> the patents? for the devices.
>
Are you sure there are any patents ?
There are trademarks and code/binaries which isn't available for
redistribution but I'm not sure there are any patents.
djfake wrote:
jimzak wrote:
> I hope that someone can assemble a simple how-to guide on building one
> of these from the hardware and software standpoint, or even better,
> start putting together the hardware and sell it to the
> technically-ignorant masses.
It has been done
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/
djfake wrote:
> Sad news indeed, but Logitech has put the death squeeze on the entire
> Squeezebox line. Good news is that the software will live on, but bad
> news is they own the patents? for the devices. Will someone come along
> and buy the line? Will the old SlimDevices team buy it back? Wil
cliveb wrote:
> If your Touch or SB2 does die, there is a simple way to build your own
> inexpensive headless Squeezebox using a low cost / low power box (eg.
> Raspberry Pi) running Squeezelite. See this thread:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97046-Announce-Squeezelite-a-small-he
Sad news indeed. Fortunately Squeezebox server will live on, and I
imagine, someone could buy the rights... but I am also reminded of all
the pro-Logitech zealots at this time... I TOLD YOU SO!
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SlimPvC wrote:
> Owww man this is sad sad sad... I remember the passion of the original
> SlimDevices owners, the way they put their heart in this product. And I
> remember the horror in the community when it was sold to Logitech.
> I do not want any of those stupid radio thingies. I want a stre
SlimPvC wrote:
> From someone who has usually has checked his facts I heard this awful
> rumour that Logitech is abandoning Squeezebox. The SB Touches are slowly
> selling out, and may be impossible to find (in Holland) within a few
> months.
>
> I really hope this is not true. I'm a devoted Sq
SlimPvC wrote:
> Owww man this is sad sad sad... I remember the passion of the original
> SlimDevices owners, the way they put their heart in this product. And I
> remember the horror in the community when it was sold to Logitech.
> I do not want any of those stupid radio thingies. I want a stre
Owww man this is sad sad sad... I remember the passion of the original
SlimDevices owners, the way they put their heart in this product. And I
remember the horror in the community when it was sold to Logitech.
I do not want any of those stupid radio thingies. I want a streaming
device like the Sq
SAD but TRUE :(
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SlimPvC wrote:
> From someone who has usually has checked his facts I heard this awful
> rumour that Logitech is abandoning Squeezebox. The SB Touches are slowly
> selling out, and may be impossible to find (in Holland) within a few
> months.
>
> I really hope this is not true. I'm a devoted Sq
>From someone who has usually has checked his facts I heard this awful
rumour that Logitech is abandoning Squeezebox. The SB Touches are slowly
selling out, and may be impossible to find (in Holland) within a few
months.
I really hope this is not true. I'm a devoted Squeezebox addict since
2004
A Logitech guy is pushing a cart down my street yelling "Bring out your
dead."
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There is no age limitation to Python Appreciation. They're all
available online, one place or another.
I saw the guys do this skit (and many others) live. After the gig they
went down to the grotty bar in the hotel in which they were staying,
which also happened to be my personal watering hole
gharris999 wrote:
> What? Not just pining for the fjords?
No more than just stunned. Nailed to it's IP address.
Dave
Sorry showing my age and irreverance.
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DaveWr wrote:
> I think that Logitech's view of this Forum is like Squeezebox, in the
> words of Monty Python : a dead forum, gone to meet it's maker, an ex
> forum, curled up it's tootsies, gone to meet it's maker. If you want to
> vent your spleen at the arrogant attitude of Logitech, you will
Ikabob wrote:
> I have many friends that I used to recommend to the LOGITECH Squeezebox
> system ...Touch, Radio and Boom! It was/is a
> great music/entertainment audio ecosystem along with Ipeng.
>
> How can I recommend it NOW? The product line is lacking! All it is, is a
> radio. LOGITECH no
I have hundreds of friends that I used to recommend to the LOGITECH
Squeezebox system ...Touch, Radio and Boom! It was/is a great
music/entertainment audio ecosystem along with Ipeng. But no more!
How can I recommend it NOW? The product line is SO lacking! All it is is
a radio. LOGITECH no longer
pallfreeman wrote:
> Remind me never to bid against you on eBay...
I won an EBAY bid on an antique radio against Joe Walsh (James Gang &
The Eagles for you youngsters) and he said he same thing... ;-0
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Ikabob wrote:
> Yes, this sounds like a possibility should we be without LOGITECH LMS. I
> have been looking over the SONOS line of products. I hope LOGITECH will
> not force me down that route. I am a LOGITECH/Squeezebox fan and I'd be
> VERY disappointed if the ecosystem would go away. VERY dis
garym wrote:
> i'd bite at $700
Remind me never to bid against you on eBay...
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garym wrote:
> hmmm, I could plug a SONOS into the digital input of the Transporter,
> and play music services and internet radio via the SONOS and my own
> music via the Transporter (not limited by 65k library or 16/44.1 files),
> both using the same DAC, and can control it anywhere in my house,
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> No thanks on another Transporter that could end up functional only for
> your music library down the road .
hmmm, I could plug a SONOS into the digital input of the Transporter,
and play music services and internet radio via the SONOS and my own
music via the Transpo
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