[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2006-02-24 Thread Joe Dowling
I am running Slimserver connected by cable to a Netgear wireless router. My Squeezebox 3 connects wirelessly to the router. This works fine and the SB3 wakes up the PC running Slimserver. I would like to connect the PC wirelessly. I have tried doing this by connecting a wireless Netgear Printer

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2006-02-24 Thread Michaelwagner
Do I understand properly? You have a wired connection from PC to WGPS606, then go wireless to the Netgear router? I think you have to speak to Netgear customer support and find out whether they will pass on the magic packet that does WOL. They *should*, but that's not the same as *they do*. --

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2006-01-01 Thread mkdprice
First of all, many thanks to those of you who have posted your experiences here -- reading though them helped answer a lot of my questions as I chose and then configured my Squeezeboxes. To save power and noise, I didn't want the WinXP machine on which I have SlimServer installed to run 24/7; I

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-12-23 Thread don_quay
I've just raised a bug sheet for this issue. Please vote for this... Ethernet to wireless router, then wireless to SB2. XP settings on the network card set to allow PC to be woken by WOL packet, and Admin Only checkbox also checked. Steps to reproduce: 1. Configure WOL on network card, as

Re: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-12-23 Thread kdf
On 23-Dec-05, at 5:24 AM, don_quay wrote: I've just raised a bug sheet for this issue. Please vote for this... Ethernet to wireless router, then wireless to SB2. XP settings on the network card set to allow PC to be woken by WOL packet, and Admin Only checkbox also checked. Is this not just

Re: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-12-23 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 23/12/05 at 10:45 -0800, kdf wrote On 23-Dec-05, at 5:24 AM, don_quay wrote: I've just raised a bug sheet for this issue. Please vote for this... Ethernet to wireless router, then wireless to SB2. XP settings on the network card set to allow PC to be woken by WOL packet, and Admin Only

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-12-01 Thread danco
Well, I just double-checked, and with a Sleep time of 15 minutes, hard drive set to sleep whenever possible, I played for 30 minutes without a problem. The difference may be that I was playing a BBC Listen Again stream, so as long as the computer itself was not asleep, it would not matter if the

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-12-01 Thread xio
The mac is not connected to the internet, so I can't try streaming which would generate a different workload on the server. I've tried the hard drive sleep setting on or off but it makes no difference. The squeezebox is plugged directly into the mac with a 'standard' rj45 cable (not a

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-12-01 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 1/12/05 at 01:00 -0800, danco wrote Things for you to try, if you can on a headless machine. What happens if the hard drive is set not to go to sleep? Though, from things I have read, using EnergySaver to set the hard drive not to sleep does not actually work unless the computer itself is

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-30 Thread xio
well, I tried this but it didn't keep my mac alive :-( -- xio xio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17891

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 30/11/05 at 05:04 -0800, xio wrote well, I tried this but it didn't keep my mac alive :-( What version of the OS? What version of SlimServer? For me wake-on-Lan wakes the computer, and once SlimServer is on the computer will not sleep automatically at a time set by EnergySaver. This is

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-11 Thread getprogs
Cheers, Did not figure I would get an ouch as reply - I am just trying to communicate my findings/experiences, not be rude (sorry)...: Using previous versions of Slimserver and firmware #16 on my SB2 everything was working as previously described - WOL, server staying awake while SB2 powered on,

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-11 Thread MrC
SB2 has a very large buffer, so the music can continue to play after server shutdown, until the buffer is exhausted. You'll see no screen updates, because that's controlled via the server. Remember that contstant network activity I mentioned, even duing native WMA playback? I believe what has

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-11 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 11/11/05 at 08:17 -0800, MrC wrote It is commonly acccepted that users should not enable automatic sleep/hibernate when using their systems as servers. As far as I can tell, on my Mac running SlimServer actually prevents Energy Saver from putting the machine to sleep. I can do so manually

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-11 Thread MrC
Sorry, that comment was meant for Windows. Different platforms, as you've noticed, have different rules. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread:

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-11 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 11/11/05 at 10:45 -0800, MrC wrote Sorry, that comment was meant for Windows. Different platforms, as you've noticed, have different rules. If that was intended as a reply to my post, yes I did realise that different systems behave differently in regard to waking and sleeping. I thought

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-10 Thread getprogs
Regardless of the posts from users who have never actually tried the setup: With previous firmware versions of SB2 I *did not* (where is the font size 400 when you need it?) have any problems with my Slimserver (running Windows XP SP2, English, on an old P3 PC with a PCI NIC using WOL through

RE: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-10 Thread Craig, James (IT)
I believe the WMA stream still goes via SlimServer, even if the SB2 is decoding it? Or are you talking about using Squeezenetwork? James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-10 Thread MrC
Ouch getprogs! Are you sure that simple network activity will keep the server system awake vs. the disk activity and process activity required by the server-based decoding that kept the system awake? -- MrC MrC's

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-10 Thread oreillymj
Yes, if you read my post. I did a test where I send a stream of Ping's to my server after WOL had woken the server. It still went back to sleep. And I was also playing mp'3 at the time. So are you sure that your PC ever stayed awake after a WOL event? -- oreillymj

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-10 Thread MrC
I think we're miscommunicating. Early, you indicated: oreillymj Wrote: Now, since the WMA decoding is done in the SB2, no traffic is generated from the SB2 to the server I don't believe this is true. Run a packet sniffer and you'll see that there is plenty of network traffic on the 3483

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-09 Thread getprogs
Cheers, Prior to the firmware #26 released with 6.2, my setup was happily working! The SB2 would wake up my server, connect (after the 20 sec.s or so boot time) and I could start playing my netradio stations (using WMA streams). Now, since the WMA decoding is done in the SB2, no traffic is

Re: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-09 Thread kdf
On 9-Nov-05, at 12:50 AM, getprogs wrote: This is *not* related to any Windows XP bug etc., but simply a result of missing traffic from the SB2 to the server - I believe that a Linux box will also exhibit the same behaviour to preserve power. you may believe, but real life says differently

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-09 Thread oreillymj
By the way, I did some testing and found that the KB is not 100% accurate. I used by SB2 to bring my PC out of standby. It then did a ping -t 192.168.2.3 Server IP to send a stream of pings to my server. It still shut down after a few mins. The power settings on my PC have hibernation/standby

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-09 Thread MrC
It is my understanding that there are two different behaviors with Windows and what seems to be collectively called sleep here. 1) For automatic shutdown/sleep/hibernate modes, the Windows Power Options controls the behavior. 2) Once the system is asleep, no matter how it got there, there is a

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-09 Thread Michaelwagner
MrC Wrote: 2) Once the system is asleep, no matter how it got there, there is a 2 minute window to provide direct user input, or input via terminal services to log in. This allows admins to log in, do their thing, and have the system follow (1) above. If no log in occurs (actually,

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-09 Thread MrC
While I was writing actually, keyboard or mouse activity I knew I was going to get called on my brevity, but didn't feel like filling in the rest. It should have included terminal services logins. Waking up a machine and expecting it to catch the 2 minute window would not be very reliable.

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread oreillymj
Wake On LAN tends not to work with Wireless NICs because there is no power sent to the Wireless radio when the PC/laptop is in standy/sleep mode. On an IBM Thinkpad, you'll see the Wireless led on the lid go off when the system is in standby. That means the radio has been shut down to save

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread bernt
oreillymj Wrote: The other problem was that WinXP would only stay awake for about 5 minutes before going back to sleep. I contacted Microsoft support, but they basically fobbed me off. There is a KB article on Microsoft's support site which describes the issue and it's apparently meant to

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread Jim
What about a 'Wireless Bridge' (http://tinyurl.com/9t3xp) ? I know it's a waste of desk space money but having a ethernet card equiped PC/laptop connecting via a very small wire to a bridge sitting next to it...and then being transmitted through the air would work...I'm 99.9% sure. -- Jim

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread Michaelwagner
If I read that right, a stream of WOL requests, 1 minute apart, would keep it awake. Or other activity - not sure what would qualify, though. You'd think slim sending network traffic out would qualify. -- Michaelwagner

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread oreillymj
If SD codes it, I certainly test the firmware update. What I don't want is a PC in a Sleep/Wake/Sleep/Wake cycle. I know that will shorten the life of my HD. -- oreillymj oreillymj's Profile:

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread getprogs
Since the new firmware does the WMA ecoding on the SB, my slimserver is going into powersave since not enough activity is generated from the SB to the server (i.e. the server thinks the SB is powered off - SB2 to be exact ;-). This is particularly anoying when listening to Internet radio streams

Re: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-08 Thread kdf
Quoting getprogs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since the new firmware does the WMA ecoding on the SB, my slimserver is going into powersave since not enough activity is generated from the SB to the server (i.e. the server thinks the SB is powered off - SB2 to be exact ;-). This is particularly anoying

[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-05 Thread Michaelwagner
dean Wrote: Nearly every ethernet card I've encountered does support WOL.I have some old ones that don't. Also, WOL requires at least an AT-X power supply and power to the lan card, so some older machines won't be able to support it even if the lan card does.

Re: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network

2005-11-05 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 19:44 -0800, Michaelwagner wrote: dean Wrote: Nearly every ethernet card I've encountered does support WOL. I have some old ones that don't. Also, WOL requires at least an AT-X power supply and power to the lan card, so some older machines won't be able to support it