Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-06 Thread pnharrison
Inspired by Marth, I checked / refreshed the system time on my Ubuntu server which runs Squeezecenter; (it looks like it wasn't being updated correctly) And this seems to have resolved the issue immediately; my SB2 + Boom now sync perfectly. Thanks for the help all. -- pnharrison

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-04 Thread Marth
awy;392540 Wrote: > Your log shows repeated reconnects from both players. Do you have some > sort of problem with your network? > > To track down the sync problem you also need to enable > player.sync=debug and network.protocol.slimproto=info in the logging. I seem to finaly have solved the pr

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-04 Thread awy
Marth;392331 Wrote: > I get the same behavior, except I don't run squeezecenter from VM-ware > but on a regular Windows XP PC with enough performance (3.7.2). > > I get exactly the same sync problems as described in this thread, but > also spontanious song changes while only using one of the cli

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-03 Thread Marth
I get the same behavior, except I don't run squeezecenter from VM-ware but on a regular Windows XP PC with enough performance (3.7.2). I get exactly the same sync problems as described in this thread, but also spontanious song changes while only using one of the clients (got Squeezebox 3, recieve

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Sleightholm
It has stayed in sync for a nearly a whole day now. I have been doing some reading up on VMs and time keeping is a known problem. They tend to drop interrupts and hence the time can drift, the recommendation seems to be to ensure they sync with a time server regularly (which I have done now). My S

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-03 Thread awy
Unlikely. The clocks in the S2s are generally very stable. More likely that the server clock is drifting; perhaps there is a problem with it running in a VM. The adjustment mechanism, by which SC tracks relative drift between the SC server clock and the player clock, is deliberately slow, so as t

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Sleightholm
The problem definitely seems to be time related. I reset the server so it was at the correct time but it took a while before the time on the squeezebox2 matched (the squeezebox seemed to be ok). Once the times matched then playing a track was perfectly in sync. Is there some reason why the squeeze

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-02 Thread awy
They don't really get time from anywhere. They have a free running 1kHZ clock (jiffies) that starts at 0 on boot. SC tracks the jiffies epoch relative it its time. It assumes that the SC host (server) time is stable. -- awy ---

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Time seems to be the problem, the squeezeboxes don't seem to be getting the time from the server. Is it possible that the time comes from a time server rather than SqueezeCenter? Neil -- Neil Sleightholm Neil Sleightholm'

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Sleightholm
awy - I have used many versions right from the early days but prior to 7.2 it was 7.1. Interesting about the clock, my server is actually Windows 2003 VM (VMware server is the host) and I have set the option to sync the time from the host but I am going to try letting it free run and sync with my

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-02 Thread awy
Yes, logs please. player.source=info, player.sync=debug, network.protocol.slimproto=debug. I'm afraid that lot will be rather verbose. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this th

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-02 Thread pnharrison
> That is interesting, I was starting to wonder if it was just my set up. I am > fairly sure this is a new problem that only start happening with 7.2 release > - have you noticed it before? It does appear to be a recent problem. Previously synching SB2 to Duet worked OK with my setup. However

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-01 Thread awy
Neil, what version of SC were you running before 7.2? Thanks for the log. It is interesting. I appears to show a discrepancy between you server's clock and SC's idea of the player's clock. The series of "adjust jiffies epoch" messages shows an unusual pattern. There is not a long enough period co

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-01 Thread Neil Sleightholm
That is interesting, I was starting to wonder if it was just my set up. I am fairly sure this is a new problem that only start happening with 7.2 release - have you noticed it before? -- Neil Sleightholm Neil Sleightholm's

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-02-01 Thread pnharrison
Just want to mention that I am experiencing the same sync issue as the OP. Trying to sync my SB2 with my new Boom; I found the SB2 was approx 5 seconds behind the Boom. So watching this thread with interest. -- pnharrison ---

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-31 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Log attached. +---+ |Filename: Sync.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6875| +--

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-31 Thread awy
Please check the settings using the WebUI under Settings / Player / / Synchronization for each player. Please capture a log (Sessings / Advance / Logging), with player.source=info and player.sync=debug. -- awy awy's Prof

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-31 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Does anyone have any more ideas? -- Neil Sleightholm Neil Sleightholm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=131 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58797 _

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-26 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I have tried it with an MP3 and disabled FLAC (which I think means they both use WAV). With the MP3 I just tried, I hear the squeezebox start then 13s later I hear audio from the squeezebox2 but both displays show the same time, i.e. the squeezebox2 says it is 13s in to the track before I hear any

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-26 Thread Ben Sandee
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Neil Sleightholm wrote: > Unfortunately it is still not working. The squeezebox2 is currently > about 8s behind, oddly sometimes the displays are in sync but when I > start a track it takes several seconds to start. I feels like there is > some buffering happening

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-26 Thread Neil Sleightholm
funkstar;389376 Wrote: > The track info shows the file format, not the transmition or streaming > format.I had never noticed that before, I was sure it was the transmission format, oh well. Unfortunately it is still not working. The squeezebox2 is currently about 8s behind, oddly sometimes the d

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-26 Thread funkstar
Neil Sleightholm;389289 Wrote: > Also when I go to the track info for a playing track on the squeezebox > it says the file format is FLAC, I don't have LAME installed and there > isn't any other process running on the server, so I am fairly sure it > is really playing FLAC. Ben is right. The trac

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-25 Thread Ben Sandee
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Neil Sleightholm wrote: > > Just after I posted this I upgraded to 7.3.2 and the problem went away. > > > Also when I go to the track info for a playing track on the squeezebox > it says the file format is FLAC, I don't have LAME installed and there > isn't any oth

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Just after I posted this I upgraded to 7.3.2 and the problem went away. Also when I go to the track info for a playing track on the squeezebox it says the file format is FLAC, I don't have LAME installed and there isn't any other process running on the server, so I am fairly sure it is really pl

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-25 Thread Ben Sandee
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Neil Sleightholm wrote: > > I have several squeezeboxes and have noticed that I get a massive delay > when trying to synchronise between squeezebox's and squeezebox2's, the > delay is a about 2-3s with the squeezebox's first. Should these 2 > generations of squeez

Re: [slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-25 Thread ptrainer
The Squeezebox (SB1) has no hardware decoder for FLAC while the SB2 does. So your SB1s are definitely playing a signal transcoded by Squeezecenter. Unfortunately, they can't sync well. -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http:

[slim] Synchronisation problems squeezebox and squeezebox2

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I have several squeezeboxes and have noticed that I get a massive delay when trying to synchronise between squeezebox's and squeezebox2's, the delay is a about 2-3s with the squeezebox's first. Should these 2 generations of squeezebox be able to sync? I am using SqueezeCenter 7.3.1 and my music