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2013-11-10 Thread aubuti
ModelCitizen wrote: > You do need to factor in the programming required. That may well have been the larger share of the cost, but a lot of that was probably easy to spin off from the beginnings of SqueezeOS on the SB Controller. ModelCitizen wrote: > But the main point is not the cost. The ma

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2013-11-10 Thread garym
I rarely use the touch screen, and in one of my touches it is in a cabinet where I don't even see it. However, based on lots of posts (even a recent thread about the catch 22 of setting up SB3 without remote), it seems to me to be important to have some easy mechanism for setting up or occasionall

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2013-11-10 Thread ModelCitizen
You do need to factor in the programming required but the main point is not the cost its the fact that the inclusion of a touch screen so closely tethered to the HiFi when virtually everyone had a hand held controller in the shape of a smart phone seemed a bit misguided. Certainly for me the numb

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2013-11-10 Thread aubuti
ModelCitizen wrote: > Display good, but including an expensive touch screen in a device Except the touchscreen isn't expensive at all. Similar screens are on every dime-a-dozen phone, GPS, etc. It may have seemed a lot fancier than the VFD screens that had been used in previous SBs, but it was a

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2013-11-10 Thread ModelCitizen
Mnyb wrote: > > Yes it still has a display with I think is fine. Display good, but including an expensive touch screen in a device tethered to your hifi by short audio leads when almost anyone who would be interested in buying it already had a smart phone, wireless network and could buy a contr

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2013-11-10 Thread pippin
They did sell the Touch for quite a while but they dismantled most of the development team even before the release. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and *New: Logitech UE Smart Radio* as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com

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2013-11-09 Thread Mnyb
One could greatly reduce the Touch's confused identity by . 1. Remove the built in server and just pretend that that never happened :) 2. Use the freed up resources to make the USB an oficial ,audio output . ( but I suspect this would have had to happen in the development state . In reality maybe

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2013-11-09 Thread ModelCitizen
JJZolx wrote: > The development and support costs of the Squeezebox product line had to > have seemed astronomical in comparison to their traditional products > like mice, keyboards and PC speakers. Yes and this, along with their failure to understand the strengths of the product, led them to squ

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2013-11-09 Thread JJZolx
pippin wrote: > Well, the ridiculous thing is that I believe Logitech got better sales > of the Touch than they ever expected, they killed it because they > _thought_ it wouldn't sell and got caught by surprise when it did but it > was too late, they were already throwing all available resources

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2013-11-08 Thread ModelCitizen
Yes, as we know Logitech were not a very bright or sophisticated company and probably should have stuck to inanimates such as mouse, keyboards and speakers. A more imaginative company might have done things very differently. Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/Mo

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2013-11-08 Thread pippin
Well, the ridiculous thing is that I believe Logitech got better sales of the Touch than they ever expected, they killed it because they _thought_ it wouldn't sell and got caught by surprise when it did but it was too late, they were already throwing all available resources at the Google TV which

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2013-11-08 Thread mlsstl
Interesting how people have different experiences with the same product. My two Touchs, an old SB3 and a Radio are quite reliable whether it is playing NPR on the Radio in the kitchen or choosing music off my server for the main stereo. And, if the Squeezeboxes ever collectively die, I know my (ba

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2013-11-08 Thread socistep
Dogberry2 wrote: > Good luck with your new music solution, Autopilot. I hope it works out > well for your needs. > > As for me, I don't really have any "maintenance" issues, but since I'm > the only one who puts new music into the system, that does simplify > things. I know my wife would never w

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2013-11-07 Thread Dogberry2
Good luck with your new music solution, Autopilot. I hope it works out well for your needs. As for me, I don't really have any "maintenance" issues, but since I'm the only one who puts new music into the system, that does simplify things. I know my wife would never want to have to bother with tha

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2013-11-07 Thread Mushroom_3
bklaas wrote: > Sorry to see you go autopilot. It's a testament to how strong the user > community is when, more than a year after Logitech gave up on > Squeezebox, there are people that have such an affinity for it they are > still having active discussions about it. Even in your case, to say >

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2013-11-07 Thread Mnyb
autopilot wrote: > Ben, what a legend. I know what a huge part you played in making it all > happen. Thank you :) > > I wish I had not mentioned 'stability'. That's not really what I wanted > to convey. It's more general maintenance, for example my wife or young > children wanting to buy and add

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2013-11-07 Thread autopilot
bklaas wrote: > Sorry to see you go autopilot. It's a testament to how strong the user > community is when, more than a year after Logitech gave up on > Squeezebox, there are people that have such an affinity for it they are > still having active discussions about it. Even in your case, to say >

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2013-11-07 Thread aubuti
Sorry to see you go autopilot. I don't fully understand your reasons for changing systems, but I trust that you know what is best for your situation. For the last several years my SB system has just worked for me, and I don't think it's "defensive" to say so. Obviously, YMMV. Happy listening, and

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2013-11-07 Thread bklaas
Sorry to see you go autopilot. It's a testament to how strong the user community is when, more than a year after Logitech gave up on Squeezebox, there are people that have such an affinity for it they are still having active discussions about it. Even in your case, to say adios. Like others on th

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2013-11-07 Thread autopilot
Absolutely, I have learnt a lot on these forums. Not just directly related to Squeezebox, bu many aspects of audio and technology. Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox touch, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedr

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2013-11-07 Thread garym
Fully understand and best wishes. I'm sure many around here thank you for your many contributions to the forum and the users of the squeezebox "ecosystem". For me, as much as I enjoy the way the SB system transformed my listening experience, I really enjoy the (mostly) nice folks that hang out at

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2013-11-07 Thread autopilot
Thanks guys. I'll pop in from time to time, one day I hope I have the time and money to dive back in. There are some cool things in the pipeline. I understand the defensiveness of people about their systems, and I know it can be a very stable system. I'm not trying to be negative, indeed I have

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2013-11-06 Thread bernt
Apple, cheap and stable!? Yeah, right! My SB system just works and my family use every day with zero suppport. 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - Vortexbox@HP SFF iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Prof

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2013-11-06 Thread erland
autopilot wrote: > It makes me a little sad, well very sad actually, but its time for me to > move on and my Squeezeboxes have been sold. > I'm really sorry to see you go, you will be missed around here. You are of course very welcome to remain active in the community even if you don't own any S

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2013-11-06 Thread dasmueller
Sorry to see you go. Best of luck going forward with whatever you decide to do. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10

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2013-11-06 Thread Phil Meyer
>Thanks MC. Yes, it's not that unstable but it does require a certain >amount of maintenance. The core LMS server has remained pretty stable for me for a long time, and I've always close to the bleeding edge, running from the latest server source code updates. What sometimes goes unstable are pl

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2013-11-06 Thread autopilot
Otto-Wilhelm wrote: > I can not understand this decision and the reasons stated. > > An old PC with sufficient "power" is very cheap and allows very decent > Squeezebox/Logitech Server functionality. Another option are NAS > devices from Synology and similar which also provide decent > Squeezeb

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2013-11-06 Thread ModelCitizen
Like Autopilot my usage has changed in the last decade (it's not that long is it?). I now mostly use my system for listening to BBC Radio 4 (really!), although I do often play local music, various other internet radio services, use MusicIP, synchronisation and various plugins. Triode's iPlayer p

Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-06 Thread Otto-Wilhelm
I can not understand this decision and the reasons stated. An old PC with sufficient "power" is very cheap and allows very decent Squeezebox/Logitech Server functionality. Another option are NAS devices from Synology and similar which also provide decent Squeezebox/Logitech Server functionality

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2013-11-06 Thread autopilot
Thanks MC. Yes, it's not that unstable but it does require a certain amount of maintenance. But that's not really the only reason, it's partly financial. My use case does not match so much anymore. If I had the money spare a decent NAS would have helped too. I hope you get to enjoy your squeezeb

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2013-11-06 Thread ModelCitizen
>From one old timer to another I have to say that your announcement has saddened me. And also surprised me a little. My set up has been stable for years. I never need to touch it, it just works. Anyway. Good luck. Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen