Re: [discuss] Still Immoral to Support Microsoft

2007-06-10 Thread Roger Markus
On 6/10/07, Johnny Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be interesting to see a list of what exactly has been stolen from Microsoft... What would be the point of stealing defective and buggy software? Microsoft's legal claims are bogus - but they own many politicians and part of the

Re: [discuss] Still Immoral to Support Microsoft

2007-06-09 Thread Roger Markus
On 6/7/07, John Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roger Markus: Problem is that right now with no voice dictation that works in Linux, there is not much choice for those who have arthritis or some other disability but to use Windows XP and Dragon Naturally Speaking or even Via Voice. :-( Good

[discuss] Immoral to Support Microsoft

2007-05-14 Thread Roger Markus
Microsoft if publicly threatening the free world - disingenuously saying that: ... free and open-source software violates more than 230 of Microsoft's patents. The Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user interface and other design elements infringe on a further 65. Open

[discuss] Still Immoral to Support Microsoft

2007-05-14 Thread Roger Markus
Microsoft is publicly threatening the free world - disingenuously saying that: ... free and open-source software violates more than 230 of Microsoft's patents. The Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user interface and other design elements infringe on a further 65. Open

Re: [discuss] Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-07 Thread Roger Markus
On 4/3/07, Muhammad Fahd Waseem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I am Muhammad Fahd Waseem, and I am a very experienced home user, as well as a student of computer studies. I have used OpenOffice.org ever since it was launched, and I always thought of it as a better product than the otherwise

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-07 Thread Roger Markus
On 4/4/07, Lars D. Noodén [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, André Wyrwa wrote: Both links are far away from being usability reviews. You won't find any true usability reviews. Nor is it likely that you will find any reviews, period. The days of a real product shootout are over a

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-07 Thread Roger Markus
On 4/6/07, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's examine the facts here, shall we? This from Microsoft-Chad? Facts? From Microsoft-Chad? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! How much did they pay you to sell your soul to the devil Chad? RM

[discuss] Our Friendly Competition

2006-04-05 Thread Roger Markus
What's the latest update on Europe forcing Microsoft to obey the law? RM Microsoft held mock EU trial, source says Reuters Published on ZDNet News: March 28, 2006, 12:41 PM PT In a sign of how meticulously Microsoft is planning its antitrust battle against the European Commission next month,

[discuss] MS in SCO Hot Water?

2006-02-25 Thread Roger Markus
Regarding: IBM issues subpoenas for tech giants' SCO dealings By Graeme Wearden, ZDNet (UK) Published on ZDNet News: February 22, 2006, 7:22 AM PT http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6041947.html As the article states: The long-running legal battle over claims that IBM's version of Linux violates

[discuss] Re: Sooner or Later

2006-02-09 Thread Roger Markus
Could it be that Microsoft will be forced to act within the law and in a moral and proper way? Maybe we will be moving forward at last and away from a new dark age! Once file system compatibility (arguably the largest issue for OpenOffice.org) is on a level and fair field, things will improve

Re: [discuss] RE: very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Roger Markus
On 2/8/06, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should draw a good crowd. I'm up for it. Getting a bit long in the tooth now but I used to be a dab hand at arm wrestling. Have to be right handed though cos me left shoulder is knackered :-) Funny, but a better solution would be to design

[discuss] Re: Sooner or Later

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Markus
It is reported that the US Department of Homeland Security is spending $1.24 million to hunt for security bugs in open-source software From a spin standpoint, you have to wonder why the government is spending $1.24 million to hunt for security bugs in open-source software, a phrase that

[discuss] Sooner or Later

2006-01-11 Thread Roger Markus
Microsoft continues to acquire patents for things which have no business being patented. The article below from John Oates at the Register mentions Linux and open source, without specifically naming OpenOffice, but - make no mistake - we are in the same boat as Linux. If Linux is destroyed, so

[discuss] Robin Miller at Washington Post

2005-12-19 Thread Roger Markus
Old news, but for anyone who missed it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/12/07/DI2005120701796.html Transcript OpenOffice.org Robin Miller Author Friday, December 16, 2005; 12:00 PM Author Robin Miller was online Friday, Dec. 16th to discuss the OpenOffice.org

[discuss] JSNTM

2005-12-19 Thread Roger Markus
An interesting on-line discussion about how to free yourself of Microsoft, which brings up OpenOffice - is at the following link. You may need to register to see it, but it's free I think. RM http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/12/07/DI2005120701789.html?referrer=email

[discuss] Well-well-well...

2005-12-18 Thread Roger Markus
Hmm... Chad and Rod pouring Microsoft propaganda into the list again! (See: Norwegian article on school software licensing) Why are we not surprised? Chad - get a life and/or quit working for Microsoft. Rod - open your eyes and see the light of day! Microsoft is an illegal corporation that

Re: [discuss] Norwegian article on school software licensing

2005-12-16 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/16/05, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Office of Fair Trading has left the case open. They say they are not saying MS is clear, just that the cost of pursuing the case is not worth the gain given the current extent of the take up of MSSA in UK schools. In principle I beleive that

Re: [discuss] Norwegian article on school software licensing

2005-12-14 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/15/05, Martin Hauge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bad news for OOo is that if a school want to save some licence costs bylet some classrooms run OOo, the school still have to pay Microsoft-licenses - also for the OOO-PCs. In other words, the schools have to pay Microsoft-licences also

Re: [discuss] Norwegian article on school software licensing

2005-12-14 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/15/05, Martin Hauge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A correction: This kind of licence-agreements were stopped in USA 11 years ago ( 1994 Microsoft Consent Decree) , in Norway it is still legal. So this outrageous situation of charging people for something that they're not even using is

Re: [discuss] Reason's Why Part-1 (of 3)

2005-12-12 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/12/05, Lars D. Noodén [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, Ian Lynch wrote: ... Countering a $360m a year propaganda machine for MSO is not that simple with no marketing budget. [snip] ...Undermine confidence in the opposition, boost confidence in your product. Let's

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason's Why Part-4 (of 4)

2005-12-12 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/13/05, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general IT adoption is largely dependent on confidence, not the quality of the technology. Boosting confidence in our product and under-mining confidence in competing products is just standard stuff. Ok some people might get a little

Re: [discuss] Re: Call For Moderation

2005-12-12 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/13/05, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + 100!!! -10,000! HaHa! Chad in favor of what is destructive to OpenOffice... why am I not surprised? RM

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason's Why Part-4 (of 4)

2005-12-12 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/13/05, Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about posting this on alt.destroy.microsoft? I fail to see the relevance of Microsoft bashing on an email list that has nothing to do with Microsoft. For the record this is the Open Office General email list. Discussions not directly related to

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-11 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/11/05, Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm agin it as well. My reasons are that linux and FOSS are about freedom. Not just free software, but freedom of speech. One of the basic rights in theory of the free world. That's ironic if you're living in the US - where the media is

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-11 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/11/05, CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice idea, but are you willing to be the moderator and to give the appropriate amount of time each day ( at least 1 hour) to do this ? Shouldn't someone at Sun do that? RM

[discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread Roger Markus
There is a solution to the recent problem of the list having gone off the tracks. There should be a moderator, with all incoming mail read by this moderator and either passed, held or deleted. Offensive language, name-calling, and most importantly, Microsoft propaganda should be deleted. The

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-06 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/6/05, Sven Aerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's the law suits against MS and the illegal sending of HD info ? In what countries in Asia governments are forbidding to use MS in governmental application? How fast in Linux evolving? Do you know how to use Google? Give it a try! It's

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-05 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/5/05, Andrew Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John W. Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:4393C60B.4090405 @attglobal.net: Rubbish. Microsoft is on top because Bill Gates was a trust fund baby, and because he and his gang use the methods of organized crime. Nice website you got

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-04 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/3/05, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 09:58 -0600, Randomthots wrote: If I'm not actively concerned about cross-platform and/or cross-application compatibility, then XML is mostly meaningless to me. But anyone an use that argument about any feature of MSO

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-04 Thread Roger Markus
On 12/5/05, Randomthots [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Markus wrote: Same here. There's the moral issue as well of not supporting the illegal organization Microsoft that is damaging to the computer industry as a whole. Buying their products only strengthens the monster. If they were

Re: [discuss] Re: re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-11-20 Thread Roger Markus
On 11/20/05, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but I did notice this is the 100th post on the thread maybe time to kill it. It started on Oct 26 No - it's still relevant and the issue is not in the past yet. RM

Re: [discuss] Online only apps

2005-11-20 Thread Roger Markus
On 11/20/05, John Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Discuss and Daniel Carrera: Your suggestions are being followed by me as fast as I can. I need one KVM switch so I can use my monitor for both Win and Linux, until I get my Linux under control, I mean knowledge control. I bought a 64 bit

Re: [discuss] Online only apps

2005-11-20 Thread Roger Markus
On 11/21/05, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Markus wrote: Do give yourself an overlap period to get used to Linux. Once you're up to speed with it, you'll never want to touch a Lose-W machine again, but there snip use the Lose-W box less and less, but don't attempt a Bang! one day

Re: [discuss] Why?

2005-11-14 Thread Roger Markus
On 11/15/05, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that a lot of this is much ado about nothing. And as much as anyone likes being the center of attention, I think all the Chad-bashing/Chad-defending noise is far more than anything I ever caused on my own. A suggestion. Try saying

[discuss] Why?

2005-11-12 Thread Roger Markus
Chad - You have sworn that you're not on Microsoft's payroll, so why... *why* are you always in the position of being an attack dog for that illegal company? It's very strange. I guess you're not on their payroll, but you might as well be! As unrelenting PR attacks, your text is great for

Re: [discuss] Why?

2005-11-12 Thread Roger Markus
On 11/13/05, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to my statements that you don't need *any* Microsoft software to use MSO file formats - I don't see how thats an attack. For Pete's sake - OpenOffice.org (the program who's list were on) - opens the bloody formats! It reads