Hi All
We are wanting to start showing the world how many servers are actually
installed around the world and to facilitate this we have started
creating a map showing the locations of the installs. (These are only
down to the Town or Country of install)
To view the current map and graph go
: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server
Hi All
We are wanting to start showing the world how many servers are actually
installed around the world and to facilitate this we have started
creating a map showing the locations of the installs. (These are only
down to the Town or Country of
sday, March 06, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server
Hi Tony,
I did something similar some years back but gathered the data
automatically
through the contribs I have published (Sme-unjunkmgr and
Dansguardian-stats). If you want to show something that anyone
On 06/03/14 14:50, AllesKunst.net ID GmbH - Rudolf Vielnascher wrote:
> Showing only the installs that tell you, will show a very lonesome
> comunity.
>
I think you may have missed the point of what Tony is doing. Currently
we have no way of knowing what servers we have and where.
The stuff he
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 17:02:03 +0100, John Crisp wrote:
> As we no longer have SMOLT ...
Is that correct? My server still has smolt enabled and there is a boot time
message about enabling the monthly smolt checkin. Looking at the config of
smolt it points to smolt.contribs.org.
I note the commen
On 03/08/2014 05:08 AM, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 17:02:03 +0100, John Crisp wrote:
As we no longer have SMOLT ...
Is that correct? My server still has smolt enabled and there is a boot time
message about enabling the monthly smolt checkin. Looking at the config of
smolt it po
On 03/08/2014 10:26 AM, chris burnat wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
It may be worth going back to this bug, there is a lot of information,
in particular from Greg and JPP. SMOLT could possibly be resurrected?
Also:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
and:
...@lists.contribs.org
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Sent: 8. marts 2014 01:04
To: Dave Liquorice; discussion@lists.contribs.org
Cc: Charlie Brady
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On 03/08/2014 10:26 AM, chris burnat wrote
: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On 03/08/2014 10:26 AM, chris burnat wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
It may be worth going back to this bug, there is a lot of information,
in particular from Greg and JPP. SMOLT could possibly be resurrected
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> burnat Sent: 8. marts 2014 01:04 To: Dave Liquorice;
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> [discussion] Install statistics fo
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>On 03/08/2014 10:26 AM, chris
On 8-3-2014 21:52, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
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i worry that these statistics are a bit against the private life of
our sysadmin and users.
Have we already take statistics like that ?
Even if the data can not be traced back to the server and only
Hi Jonathan,
nice to see you back around.
The 'Test Internet Connection' in the console app 'phones home' with
data. Let's take a look at that.
I personally think that the data submitted should only contain:
a. Install date
b. Version
c. GeoIP location
d. Unique installer code
regarding d.
On 9-3-2014 20:47, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
nice to see you back around.
I have been around, although laying low and will be around and every now
and then chime in with my meaning, ideas etc. although I can not
dedicate the time I did before at the moment.
The 'Test Internet Connecti
On 9-3-2014 21:05, Jonathan Martens wrote:
On 9-3-2014 20:47, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
nice to see you back around.
I have been around, although laying low and will be around and every
now and then chime in with my meaning, ideas etc. although I can not
dedicate the time I did befo
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[mailto:discussion-boun...@lists.contribs.org] On Behalf Of Hsing-Foo Wang
Sent: 9. marts 2014 21:24
To: discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On 9-3-2014 21:05, Jonathan Martens wrot
On 9-3-2014 23:33, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
The only think that this would "reveal" beyond what a YUM update does
is a unique ID and install date (why do we need that?). I do not think
we need an opt-in for that. Basically, as long as the data gathering
is so simple I do not even think a unique
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Sent: 10. marts 2014 09:58
To: discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On 9-3-2014 23:33, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
The only think that this would "reveal" beyond what a YUM update does is a
unique
ts 2014 09:58
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On 9-3-2014 23:33, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
The only think that this would "reveal" beyond what a YUM update
does is a unique ID and install date (why do we need that?).
Hsing-Foo Wang
Sent: 10. marts 2014 15:40
To: discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
I hope Shad would be willing to speak up, for he is fully aware and
maintained all 'phone home' and install UUID, EPOCH stuff. Hopefully it wi
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Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
Right, I was looking for the install epoch and there it is ;-)
Now for the GeoIP data? otherwise it would be difficult to map
geographically right?
On 10-3-2014 16:39, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
The config DB
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*Subject:* Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
Right, I was looking for the install epoch and there it is ;-)
Now for the GeoIP data? otherwise it would be difficult to map
geographically right?
On 10-3-2014 16:39, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
The config DB seems to h
oo Wang
Sent: 10. marts 2014 16:45
To: discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
Right, I was looking for the install epoch and there it is ;-)
Now for the GeoIP data? otherwise it would be difficult to map
geographically right?
On 10-3-20
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> I have now created both the script (Perl) that gathers data on all the SME
> servers and also the Backend (PHP, MySQL) that collects and store the data.
> Supports SME 7x and 8x (tested) and most likely also 9x.
>
>
>
> Currentl
On 10-3-2014 23:13, Shad L. Lords wrote:
This information is already being collected. Why do we need a
separate script to collect this information?
Is there a way to access that to dynamically or periodically to generate
the map?
Kind regards,
Jonathan
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Jonathan Martens wrote:
> On 10-3-2014 23:13, Shad L. Lords wrote:
>
>> This information is already being collected. Why do we need a separate
>> script to collect this information?
>>
> Is there a way to access that to dynamically or periodically to generate
> th
[mailto:discussion-boun...@lists.contribs.org] On Behalf Of Shad L. Lords
Sent: 11. marts 2014 15:20
To: Jonathan Martens
Cc: discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Jonathan Martens
wrote:
On 10-3-2014 23:13
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
> Can you elaborate on what exactly is being collected and how?
>
>
>
> Unless the data is not enough for the planned purpose I see absolutely no
> need to create a separate script - that would be waste of good energy.
>
Currently ReleaseVers
t: 11. marts 2014 20:54
To: Jesper Knudsen
Cc: Jonathan Martens; discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jesper Knudsen
wrote:
Can you elaborate on what exactly is being collected and how?
Unless the
ks,
Jesper
From: Shad L. Lords [mailto:slo...@lordsfam.net]
Sent: 11. marts 2014 20:54
To: Jesper Knudsen
Cc: Jonathan Martens; discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jesper Knudsen
wrote:
Can you
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> marts 2014 22:43 *To:* 'Shad L. Lords' *Cc:* 'Jonathan Martens';
> 'discussion@lists.contribs.org' *Subject:* RE: [discussion] Install
> statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
>
>
>
> Shad,
>
>
>
> Woul
[mailto:discussion-boun...@lists.contribs.org] On Behalf Of stephane de
Labrusse
Sent: 18. januar 2015 00:28
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Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
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Hi All
I would wake up this discussion
Now the
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To: 'stephane de Labrusse'; 'discussion@lists.contribs.org'
Subject: RE: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
The PHP script that gathers the data from the Perl script you have linked to
is availab
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Le 25/01/2015 17:25, Jesper Knudsen a écrit :
> And I would very much like to lead this project but ONLY if it's
> something that is going to be widely - hence distributed as part of
> the core SME. If its something that is shared in the forum, then
>
On 26/01/2015 4:33 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
> Then you should open a bug, and see with Daniel, how we can do that
> and see which Data will be gathered.
If this is going to be done, it needs to be in the next ISO, no good
talking about things as it just languishes in discussions.
If it is
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
> I also think that there should a central group that gathers stats for the
> individual contribs (when they have been "approved") so that we know which
> is used and which is not. Hundred years ago I made something called a
> "egometer" basically just g
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Le 25/01/2015 20:21, Charlie Brady a écrit :
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
>
>> I also think that there should a central group that gathers stats
>> for the individual contribs (when they have been "approved") so
>> that we know whic
discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Jesper Knudsen wrote:
> I also think that there should a central group that gathers stats for
> the individual contribs (when they have been "approved") so that we
> know w
Le 25/01/2015 19:10, Terry Fage a écrit :
> On 26/01/2015 4:33 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
>> Then you should open a bug, and see with Daniel, how we can do that
>> and see which Data will be gathered.
> If this is going to be done, it needs to be in the next ISO, no good
> talking about thing
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
> We could add a disclaimer in the installer anaconda if needed, but i'm
> sure that every projects collect data on the use of their products.
I am sure that they don't.
> We (as free software) will do in transparency,
And that is what I am advo
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Le 25/01/2015 21:01, charlieb-contribs-discuss...@budge.apana.org.au a
écrit :
> I am sure that they don't.
I have found one in 5 minutes
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
But I agree Google is the evil
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Cordialement
St
On 01/25/2015 08:59 PM, Daniel Berteaud wrote:
Le 25/01/2015 19:10, Terry Fage a écrit :
On 26/01/2015 4:33 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
Then you should open a bug, and see with Daniel, how we can do that
and see which Data will be gathered.
If this is going to be done, it needs to be in t
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
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> Le 25/01/2015 21:01, charlieb-contribs-discuss...@budge.apana.org.au a
> écrit :
> > I am sure that they don't.
> I have found one in 5 minutes
I was saying that I am sure that not all projec
: stephane de Labrusse
Cc: j...@swerts-knudsen.dk; discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
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> Le 25/01/2015 21:01, charlieb-cont
On 26/01/2015 6:59 AM, Daniel Berteaud wrote:
> > I agree, but it need some work:
Good, thats at least more than one, some consensus :-)
>
> - How to enable it (opt-in, opt-out ? In the console of the initial
> configuration ?)
Opt out is the only option that should be offered, yes at the initia
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:21:41 +1100, Terry Fage wrote:
>>> I agree, but it need some work:
>
> Good, thats at least more than one, some consensus :-)
+1 and +1 for the rest of Terry's comments until:
>> - The hard part is what to do with this data. Should it be made publicly
>> available, are the
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Le 25/01/2015 22:19, Dave Liquorice a écrit :
> A list of servers giving the number of active installations and
> version per country should be pretty safe but a map you can zoom in
> on and find an individual servers location, even very loosely, I
> r
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 22:26:38 +0100, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
>> A list of servers giving the number of active installations and
>> version per country should be pretty safe but a map you can zoom in
>> on and find an individual servers location, even very loosely, I
>> really don't like at all.
city - it's irrelevant.
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> Liquorice Sent: 26. januar 2015 01:23 To:
> discussion@lists.contribs.org Subject: Re: [discussion] Install
> statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 22:26:38 +0100, stephane de
On 1/25/2015 11:59 AM, Daniel Berteaud wrote:
Le 25/01/2015 19:10, Terry Fage a écrit :
On 26/01/2015 4:33 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
Then you should open a bug, and see with Daniel, how we can do that
and see which Data will be gathered.
If this is going to be done, it needs to be in th
On 27/01/2015 2:42 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
> It is fun to see servers on a Map, because you see friends around you
> and it is interesting to see the repartition per towns in a country.
> Indeed if you take as example Australia, quite sure that all are in
> the east and it is the same in Fr
Terry, before we go building something new, how about we determine what
information is already available from all the yum updates happening on a
regular bases?
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Terry Fage wrote:
> On 27/01/2015 2:42 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
> > It is fun to see servers on a Map, bec
On 27/01/2015 9:41 AM, Charlie Brady wrote:
>
> Terry, before we go building something new, how about we determine what
> information is already available from all the yum updates happening on a
> regular bases?
No problems, I know I sound a tad strident and do no dev work and just
sit on the o
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[mailto:discussion-boun...@lists.contribs.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Brady
Sent: 26. januar 2015 23:42
To: Terry Fage
Cc: discussion@lists.contribs.org
Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
Terry, be
Le 26/01/2015 23:03, Terry Fage a écrit :
> On 27/01/2015 2:42 AM, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
>> It is fun to see servers on a Map, because you see friends around you
>> and it is interesting to see the repartition per towns in a country.
>> Indeed if you take as example Australia, quite sure tha
On 27/01/2015 6:50 PM, Daniel Berteaud wrote:
> Finally, we barely have resources to maintain the distro right now.
> Having install stats is a good thing, but not our top priority I think.
>
> For all this reasons, I see no way we can have it ready for the next ISO.
Thats OK, at least its a posi
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Le 27/01/2015 08:50, Daniel Berteaud a écrit :
> For all this reasons, I see no way we can have it ready for the
> next ISO.
I would agree, but I want to paraphrase someone who will recognize
himself: Do something
We will see after what and when. We
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
> I would agree, but I want to paraphrase someone who will recognize
> himself: Do something
OK, so create a bug in the webserver/infrastructure category, to start
data-mining the mirrorlists.contribs.org access logs, using GEO IP.
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Subject: Re: [discussion] Install statistics for SME Server [SMOLT]
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, stephane de Labrusse wrote:
> I would agree, but I want to paraphrase someone who will recognize
> himself: Do something
OK, so create a bug in the webserver/infrastructure category, to start
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