Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-28 Thread Thomas Guettler
Jacob Kaplan-Moss schrieb: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Karen Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So it's a couple of days later...got time to update with your thoughts? >> > > Yeah, I'm sorry; I lost track of this. > > Essentially I think that James is right that a systematic fix

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-26 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I think we need to do something along the lines of what's in > #7524... it's far, far from perfect, but it's probably the only way to > go to avoid a lot of frustration. > > So should #7524 get moved back to a 1.0

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-26 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Karen Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it's a couple of days later...got time to update with your thoughts? Yeah, I'm sorry; I lost track of this. Essentially I think that James is right that a systematic fix would be better, but I don't see what that

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-26 Thread Karen Tracey
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quick note: Malcolm and I are in Portland in the only place in the > city sans wifi. We've talked about this and the other exc swallowing > issue and I have some thoughts. Please hold until I'm in a more >

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-25 Thread Karen Tracey
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:26 AM, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > I stand by what I said in the dev channel yesterday: this is one > instance of a more general issue (there are lots of places where -- > because we need to import or check something -- we can end up > "swallowing"

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-24 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Quick note: Malcolm and I are in Portland in the only place in the city sans wifi. We've talked about this and the other exc swallowing issue and I have some thoughts. Please hold until I'm in a more civilized location and can actually use a keyboard bigger than a few stamps. Jacob Sent

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-24 Thread James Bennett
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Karen Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't understand this argument. At some point fixing this general issue > is going to have to involve a piecemeal change of each instance where > exceptions are currently swallowed. (Or at least each instance where the

Re: Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-24 Thread James Bennett
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Jonas Pfeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S.: I should have brought this up here earlier instead of causing a > somewhat lengthy discussion on IRC, sorry for that. I hope James > doesn't hate me after this ;) I stand by what I said in the dev channel yesterday:

Exception swallowing in urls.py + admin.autodiscover() == a lot of frustration for developers

2008-08-23 Thread Jonas Pfeil
Dear Django developers, The code importing urls.py has a flaw that is easy to fix but has the potential to cause a lot of frustration especially for inexperienced developers -- which I do hope will try out Django in large numbers soon :) The problem is this: When importing urls.py _any_