Hi Rob --
First, thanks for taking this on. The tutorial indeed needs some good
lovin'; glad to see someone stepping up to the plate. I don't have a
huge amount of bandwidth these days, but I can commit to writing a
bit, and to editing anything you or anyone else writes.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
>> * How do people feel about a tutorial that covers a complete site?
>
> Well, in grand Django tradition, by suggesting this, you've
> volunteered to be in charge :)
>
> But sign me u
Russell Keith-Magee kirjoitti:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
>>> * How do people feel about a tutorial that covers a complete site?
>> Well, in grand Django tradition, by suggesting this, you've
>> volunteered to
I've done this before: http://thisweekindjango.com/screencasts/
( http://github.com/ericflo/startthedark )
I can attest, from the amount of feedback that I've received about
that series of screencasts, that building an entire website from the
ground up is extremely valuable to beginners. It's al
Put me down as a other +1 for a full site tutorial, especially one
that covers pip, virtualenv, unit testing and the like.
I have a suggestion for a site, too: How about the conference website
for the next DjangoCon? It's meant to be a community run conference so
the job needs to be done at some
+1 Simon's idea of a conference site. Adding some features like
http://hello.carsonified.com/ would be cool to have, though it might
be to advance for this kind of tutorial.
Sean
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Also +1 to the idea of a conference site. I'm +0 on the prospect of
adding features like the ones on the Carsonified site for brevity's
sake. Definitely +1 to the prospect of seeing examples of unit testing
and caching. On a tangent, if there's any design work needed for said
site, I'll be happy t
I, too, like the idea of a conference site. It fills a void and
sounds useful for upcoming conferences. I wasn't too crazy about the
blog idea, and was convinced away from the snippets idea. So shall we
call it a conference site and move on? :)
For a nice reference implementation, I'd like to
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
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> I, too, like the idea of a conference site. It fills a void and
> sounds useful for upcoming conferences. I wasn't too crazy about the
> blog idea, and was convinced away from the snippets idea. So shall we
> call it a conference site and
On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 11:37:06 am Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
> > I, too, like the idea of a conference site. It fills a void and
> > sounds useful for upcoming conferences. I wasn't too crazy about the
> > blog idea, and was convinced away
Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
>
>> I, too, like the idea of a conference site. It fills a void and
>> sounds useful for upcoming conferences. I wasn't too crazy about the
>> blog idea, and was convinced away from the snippets idea. So shall w
> The tutorial is extremely important. It will be the first part of the
> docs read by 98% of new users. Don't complicate it by tying it to
> DjangoCon. This thread has already seen requests for features that
> will be great for real use, but would probably be too much to put into
> a tuto
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> My strong feeling is that these two goals will quickly become impossible to
> reconcile. I think the idea of a conference site is a good one (everyone
> will understand the problem domain, lots of interesting avenues to explore,
> it's not
> * We should de-emphasize the "apps live inside of projects" thing.
+1 on that. In fact I wonder whether we should in fact emphasize just
the opposite -- that apps should *not* live inside of projects. I get
that one of the purposes of the tutorial is to get you up and running
fast, but when so
On Oct 10, 2:04 pm, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> My strong feeling is that these two goals will quickly become impossible
> to reconcile. I think the idea of a conference site is a good one
> (everyone will understand the problem domain, lots of interesting
> avenues to explore, it's not yet-another-
Another thing that might be useful to cover in the tutorial is the
'building for re-usability' ideas that have devloped via Pinax et al.
Maybe at least one part of the functionality developed in the tutorial
should be in the form an app intended to be used across projects.
Combine this with incor
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, andybak wrote:
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> Another thing that might be useful to cover in the tutorial is the
> 'building for re-usability' ideas that have devloped via Pinax et al.
>
> Maybe at least one part of the functionality developed in the tutorial
> should be in the form an app
On 11 Oct 2009, at 16:09, Alex Gaynor wrote:
> I don't want to be overly negative, but in my view rewriting the
> tutorial would be a pointless waste of energy. It has served us
> exceptionally well over the past 4 years, and none of the problems
> with it are fundamental, we'd be far better ser
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Zachary Voase
wrote:
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> On 11 Oct 2009, at 16:09, Alex Gaynor wrote:
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>> I don't want to be overly negative, but in my view rewriting the
>> tutorial would be a pointless waste of energy. It has served us
>> exceptionally well over the past 4 years, and none o
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian <
rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Zachary Voase
> wrote:
> >
> > On 11 Oct 2009, at 16:09, Alex Gaynor wrote:
> >
> >> I don't want to be overly negative, but in my view rewriting the
> >> tutorial would
On 11 Oct 2009, at 23:39, Joshua Russo wrote:
> How about the possibility of an advanced tutorial, to highlight more
> advanced features.
That's pretty much what the Django Book is for.
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I think this is a great idea.
I volunteer to test the tutorial.
Wolf
On Oct 9, 10:41 am, Rob Hudson wrote:
> I'd like to propose the addition of a new tutorial that represents a
> complete website, describing everything from start to finish. This
> would allow for many more topics to come into
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Zachary Voase
wrote:
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> On 11 Oct 2009, at 23:39, Joshua Russo wrote:
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>> How about the possibility of an advanced tutorial, to highlight more
>> advanced features.
>
> That's pretty much what the Django Book is for.
No, it really isn't.
Firstly, The Django Bo
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Russell Keith-Magee <
freakboy3...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Zachary Voase
> wrote:
> >
> > On 11 Oct 2009, at 23:39, Joshua Russo wrote:
> >
> >> How about the possibility of an advanced tutorial, to highlight more
> >> advanced feat
You may think this is extremely silly, but I like the small tutorial, but
would like it better if it were expanded somewhat, with more troubleshooting
paragraphs in it. It already has a few of these, but it would cut down on
my struggles if it had a few more. Maybe a complete (this really works,
2009/10/13 Wolf Halton :
> You may think this is extremely silly, but I like the small tutorial, but
> would like it better if it were expanded somewhat, with more troubleshooting
> paragraphs in it. It already has a few of these, but it would cut down on
> my struggles if it had a few more. May
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 06:32:31PM +0100, gareth rushgrove wrote:
> I'm currently helping teach a small development team Django (formerly
> PHP people), at the same time building production software with them.
> The poll tutorial helped a few of them with basic syntax but on some
> of the bigger th
2009/10/19 Jeff Anderson
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> An official "real-life", advanced tutorial would have been wonderful to
> fill
> the gap that I had. It would have saved me quite a bit of *re-learning*
> things,
> which is always annoying.
>
If you can outline some of the gaps you had and examples it might be usefu
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