Re: Can two templates' names in "templates" directory under different apps be same ?

2005-12-13 Thread kmh
ashutux wrote: > I find it a bit unconventional though.. Why have a separate apps_name > ("apps1" for example) directory under template directory of the same > app, since those templates are anyways going to be used by the only > app? > Has this convention appeared just because the way django

Re: Comments on Ruby code slides from Snakes and Rubies?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 12/13/05, braver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um, I guess I wonder what it "means" in terms of syntactic sugar -- the > semantics is clear, and that's the claimed ruby's hallmark. I don't > yet have a handle on those "symbol" things like :poll ("they're like > strings" --huh?), and what's

sqlobject vs. django

2005-12-13 Thread braver
Now that my appetite is whetted by the cris-py fresh Object-Relational Managers, I keep collecting and comparing them. So far I've found that ruby's ActiveRecord is separable from RoR, and I found SQLobject.org, a totally pythonic ORM (but no cigar... i.e., web). So it begs the question --

Re: Can two templates' names in "templates" directory under different apps be same ?

2005-12-13 Thread ashutux
kmh wrote: > No. Rather, the convention is to put application specific templates in > a subdirectory of the application templates folder with the same name > as the application. That way you can refer to 'app1/login' and > 'app2/login'. See: > >

Re: Comments on Ruby code slides from Snakes and Rubies?

2005-12-13 Thread James Bennett
On 12/13/05, braver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, can someone please explain to a pythonista what exactly does a > phrase like > > has_many :milestones > > mean, and what in python prevents us from mimicking it more closely? It's expressing a many-to-many or many-to-one relationship. For

Re: Comments on Ruby code slides from Snakes and Rubies?

2005-12-13 Thread braver
OK, can someone please explain to a pythonista what exactly does a phrase like has_many :milestones mean, and what in python prevents us from mimicking it more closely?

Re: Modeling a category entity which has parent-child structure

2005-12-13 Thread Cheng Zhang
On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:53 PM, Alex Bondarenko wrote: On 12/13/05, Cheng Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am trying to model a category entity which has parent-child structure. My model is: ... If parent is as same as child, this is considered as top-level Maybe just use "parent ==

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Afternoon
On 13 Dec 2005, at 23:59, Adrian Holovaty wrote: Of course, once we get an app repository, the distinction between what goes in contrib and what goes in the app repository, becomes even more subjective. Agreed, but in the meantime, I think it's great to stick it all in there. It's a great

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/13/05, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be very cool... I'd been looking at the idea of writing > things like standardized store components (views that could hook into > things like the Paypal direct payment API, etc.), and it's be neat to > have a way to distribute

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Afternoon
On 13 Dec 2005, at 22:23, Ian Holsman wrote: captcha (text or images based) Working on an image based system right now as it happens :-). It's an implementation of the captchas.net stuff for Django. Really simple but enough to prevent the blight of comment spam I've been getting I

Re: Comments on Ruby code slides from Snakes and Rubies?

2005-12-13 Thread James Bennett
On 12/13/05, braver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and it has an emphasis on Ruby's "beauty", and parsimony, as > demonstrated by the code excerpt (David: "I was more surprised to learn > that someone would actually prefer something like"): Except David glosses over an awful lot in that example;

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Ian Holsman
it is more about raising the bar and making it more time consuming than the other guys ;-) but yeah..hugo already told me to use text-based captcha (and he has implemented a version of it I think which uses a set of questions that the human needs to answer. oh.. the link reminded me of another

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
Hi Ian, On 12/13/05, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - captcha (text or images based) > - spam and XSS protection Have you seen/read http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/ already? Especially the automated circumvention of CAPTCHAs is very interesting. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

Re: Comments on Ruby code slides from Snakes and Rubies?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
Alexy, although I am not Adrian, I still felt compelled to comment. :) On 12/13/05, braver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > class Project(meta.Model): > project_manager = meta.ForeignKey(ProjectManager) > milestones = meta.OneToOneField(Milestone) > categories = meta.ManyToManyField(Category)

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Eugene Lazutkin
"Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (Simon has cool ideas about one-click installs of these apps...) Could Simon or you share them with us? Thanks, Eugene

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread Gábor Farkas
Tom Dyson wrote: I've made a short screencast which introduces some of Django's key concepts: http://www.throwingbeans.org/django_screencasts.html btw. isn't it funny, that virtually all web-app screencasts (ruby on rails, turbogears, django) are done on mac osx? :) i sometimes wonder if

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Ian Holsman
personally I'm all for ease of use, and multiple versions of things, and I'm REALLY happy if it is easy for someone to go and write their own blog software. for example.. I've been slowly getting a phpBB-like forum software up and running for my own uses. and was planning to 'announce/release'

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Dec 13, 2005, at 3:58 PM, Rock wrote: Wrong I think. There are already several Djangoids looking at making a discussion forum together as an open project. I expect there will be plenty of similar activities. Yes. The major thrust after 1.0 will be to build up a "standard Django library"

Re: is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Rock
Wrong I think. There are already several Djangoids looking at making a discussion forum together as an open project. I expect there will be plenty of similar activities. The problem is that Django is changing fast right now without regards to backwards compatability. Wait until 1.0 hits and soon

is Django too powerful?

2005-12-13 Thread Chris Ryland
As a somewhat burned-out old-time Zope user, Django looks like nirvana for my needs (fairly simple: mostly static "brochureware" web site, plus blog, plus discussion groups, and, eventually, a simple customer database with customer assets and an integrated online store). >From investigating for

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread Rock
"Django" is pronounced correctly in the screencast.

Comments on Ruby code slides from Snakes and Rubies?

2005-12-13 Thread braver
I was reading http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000545.html and it has an emphasis on Ruby's "beauty", and parsimony, as demonstrated by the code excerpt (David: "I was more surprised to learn that someone would actually prefer something like"): class Project(meta.Model): project_manager =

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread Afternoon
On 13 Dec 2005, at 19:29, Rock wrote: At the very beginning it would be nice to know the precise state of things. (I presume that Django was installed but completely uninitialized, but it would have been nice to be more explicit about that and perhaps to point out which operations were "one

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/13/05, Robert Wittams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So a couple of points - The screencast is great. Tom, thanks for taking the time to make it! Here are a few other things, in addition to what Robert said, that could go in the next iteration of the screencast -- * Use the brand-new (and

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread Gábor Farkas
Tom Dyson wrote: I've made a short screencast which introduces some of Django's key concepts: http://www.throwingbeans.org/django_screencasts.html It's intended as a demonstration, rather than a tutorial, and in the course of building a simple CMS in seven minutes, it covers quite a lot of

Re: Calling templates within templates - a'la Mason

2005-12-13 Thread ToddG
I don't know that one would want to hook them together -- I just thought if the OP wanted to develop in a similar style to Mason but using Python, Myghty would be the obvious path to take. Myghty has lots of parts, which might be usable with other frameworks, I honestly don't know it well enough

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread David Ascher
On 12/13/05, Tom Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've made a short screencast which introduces some of Django's keyconcepts:Great first step!1) the musical background is a very nice touch.2) in the interactive shell session, I first had the impression because it went by fast that accessing the

Re: Django screencast

2005-12-13 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 12/13/05, Tom Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, I can upload differently encoded versions fairly > promptly, if H.264 is a problem for too many people. I've still got QT 6, due to hair-brained corporate content filtering. But I imagine I'm the exception, not the rule.

Re: [NOOB] ImportError: No module named django.core

2005-12-13 Thread patrick kranzlmüller
[patrick] ImportError: No module named django.core By a weird coincidence I hit this just last night, and eventually worked out that it was because I'd added a source file called "site.py". (My site.py was being imported in place of Python's own site.py, which is partly responsible for

Re: [NOOB] ImportError: No module named django.core

2005-12-13 Thread Richie Hindle
[patrick] > ImportError: No module named django.core By a weird coincidence I hit this just last night, and eventually worked out that it was because I'd added a source file called "site.py". (My site.py was being imported in place of Python's own site.py, which is partly responsible for

Re: [NOOB] ImportError: No module named django.core

2005-12-13 Thread patrick kranzlmüller
On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:43 PM, patrick kranzlmüller wrote: i just wanted to create a new app using django-admin.py startapp manage and i get the error ImportError: No module named django.core by the way, i already created an app last week, which worked fine. patrick This is due to old

Re: Modeling a category entity which has parent-child structure

2005-12-13 Thread Alex Bondarenko
On 12/13/05, Cheng Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to model a category entity which has parent-child > structure. My model is: ... > If parent is as same as child, this is considered as top-level Maybe just use "parent == None" condition? And child field. as ForeignKey... Your

Re: [NOOB] ImportError: No module named django.core

2005-12-13 Thread Cheng Zhang
On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:43 PM, patrick kranzlmüller wrote: i just wanted to create a new app using django-admin.py startapp manage and i get the error ImportError: No module named django.core by the way, i already created an app last week, which worked fine. patrick This is due to old

[NOOB] ImportError: No module named django.core

2005-12-13 Thread patrick kranzlmüller
i just wanted to create a new app using django-admin.py startapp manage and i get the error ImportError: No module named django.core by the way, i already created an app last week, which worked fine. patrick

Re: Migrating existing data into Django models

2005-12-13 Thread Grigory Fateyev
Hello tonemcd! On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:27:30 - you wrote: > > I found that any field with primary_key=True leads to a field name > with _id appended. So your field will look like user_id_id in the > database. > > Try dropping the '_id' suffix perhaps? > Nop, Traceback (most recent call

Re: Calling templates within templates - a'la Mason

2005-12-13 Thread oron
so how would you hook Mygthy to Django ?