Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC-Seal is meaningless security theatre

2017-08-08 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
> -Original Message- > From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kitterman > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 10:28 AM > To: dmarc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC-Seal is meaningless security theatre > > On Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59:19 PM Bron Gondwana

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-srose-dkim-ecc-00.txt

2017-04-07 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
This was forced by the web browser providers for SHA1. It’s being forced by the PCI DSS standard for use of TLS1.0. So it clearly ispossible. Mike From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Terry Zink Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 2:39 PM To: dmarc Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less kludge alternative to draft-kucherawy-dmarc-rcpts

2016-11-17 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
> -Original Message- > From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hector Santos > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:30 AM > To: dmarc@ietf.org; Ietf Dkim > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less kludge alternative to > draft- > kucherawy-dmarc-rcpts > >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [!!Mass Mail]Re: Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2 milestone)

2016-05-17 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
Comments in-line From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:53 PM To: Alessandro Vesely Cc: Kurt Andersen (b); DMARC; Barry Leiba Subject: [!!Mass Mail]Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2 milestone)

2016-05-11 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:29 PM To: Alessandro Vesely Cc: dmarc@ietf.org; Kurt Andersen (b); ARC Discussion Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2 milestone) On

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [!!Mass Mail]Re: I-D Action: draft-akagiri-dmarc-virtual-verification-00.txt

2016-03-19 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
> -Original Message- > From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. > Turnbull > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:32 AM > To: DMARC discussion > Subject: [!!Mass Mail]Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: > draft-akagiri-dmarc-virtual- > verification-00.txt > > Terry Zink

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Simple authorization offers reasonable control over messaging resources

2015-05-15 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hector Santos Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:09 AM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Simple authorization offers reasonable control over messaging resources On 5/15/2015 2:27 AM, Terry Zink

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Simple authorization offers reasonable control over messaging resources

2015-05-15 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: Hector Santos [mailto:hsan...@isdg.net] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:04 PM To: MH Michael Hammer (5304) Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Simple authorization offers reasonable control over messaging resources On 5/15/2015 11:07 AM, MH

Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-02.txt

2015-04-29 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
2. Causes of Interoperability Issues This section focuses on intended recipient perspective but fails to mention/discuss the originator perspective where some subset of originators, particularly for high value transactional messages, want the message discarded if it passes through an

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility Analysis

2015-04-16 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
Scott, Thanks for laying the problem space out in this manner. Mike -Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kitterman Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:11 AM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Indirect Mail Flow Solution Utility

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Updated mandatory tag/conditional signature draft

2015-04-14 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
I've been following the thread(s) regarding how to enable 3rd parties where a formal relationship doesn't exist and this reinforces my thought that it is ultimately easier systemically (even allowing for the arguments that it is unfair) for intermediaries to take ownership of messages they

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Updated mandatory tag/conditional signature draft

2015-04-09 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rolf E. Sonneveld Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 10:17 AM To: Anne Bennett; dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Updated mandatory tag/conditional signature draft On 04/09/2015 03:24 PM, Anne Bennett

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Third Party Sender DMARC Adaptations

2015-04-01 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Anne Bennett Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:35 AM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Third Party Sender DMARC Adaptations J. Gomez jgo...@seryrich.com writes: a technically appropriate

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC)

2015-03-24 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of J. Gomez Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:39 PM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Next steps for RFC 7489 (DMARC) On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:14 PM [GMT+1=CET], Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Sending email on behalf of?

2015-03-12 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:35 PM To: Terry Zink Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Sending email on behalf of? Terry Zink writes: And third (the killer) the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

2014-12-30 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 4:58 PM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On 12/29/2014 12:32 PM, MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote: I suppose it's

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

2014-12-30 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steven M Jones Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:00 PM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On 12/29/2014 12:32 PM, MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote: -Original

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

2014-12-29 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
It's still not quite right: DMARC evaluation can only complete and yield a pass result when one of the underlying authentication mechanisms passes for an aligned identifier. If this is not the case and either or both of them suffered some kind of temporary error

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04

2014-12-29 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
Still not quite correct... -Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:32 PM To: Scott Kitterman; dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Jim Fenton's review of -04 On 12/29/2014 10:40 AM, Scott

Re: [dmarc-ietf] wiki vs. list?

2014-10-09 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:step...@xemacs.org] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:45 AM To: MH Michael Hammer (5304) Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] wiki vs. list? MH Michael Hammer (5304) writes: To that point, everyone seems focused

Re: [dmarc-ietf] wiki vs. list? (was Re: documenting x-original-from usage)

2014-10-08 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Draegen Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 3:34 PM To: Scott Kitterman Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] wiki vs. list? (was Re: documenting x-original-from usage) On Oct 8, 2014, at 3:20

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [apps-discuss] Start of DMARC WG + proposed milestones

2014-08-18 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
Is the DMARC Usage Guide the same as the BCP or is it a different document? If it is a different document, is the BCP going to be one of the milestones for the WG or is it off the table? Mike -Original Message- From: apps-discuss [mailto:apps-discuss-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.

2014-06-12 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Terry Zink Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:37 PM To: Franck Martin; Matt Simerson Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Franck Martin wrote: I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] confusing 3rd party support so it remains out

2014-06-09 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
-Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Talamo, Victor Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 4:56 PM To: Vlatko Salaj; Popowycz, Alex Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] confusing 3rd party support so it remains out I concur with Alex.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Open DMARC discussion meeting: Monday 2013-10-20 0830-0930 UTC-0400

2013-10-31 Thread MH Michael Hammer (5304)
think it was useful to have the meeting and I think we should try to organize meetings/sessions in conjunction with other events. From: Kurt Andersen [mailto:kander...@linkedin.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:15 PM To: Murray S. Kucherawy; Kurt Andersen; MH Michael Hammer (5304); Franck