Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-29 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 05:08:30 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:28:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180729022852.5208a5ca@ayu.localdomain>: > >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:28:56 +0200 >> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:07:53 +0200, Alessandro wro

Re: [DNG] [OT] donate to Slackware

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 at 14:11:32 -0700 Bruce Perens wrote: > I offered to introduce him to some lawyers. I've certainly made good use of > them over the past year. Were it not for good lawyers willing to work cheap > or free, I'd be in some hot water right now. > > Thanks > > Bruce Than

Re: [DNG] ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 08:30:23 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > Hi all, > I have a headless Odroid C2 running "Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii) > (3.8.13.30)", all packages are up to date. > Often, when I try to connect through ssh I get the following error: > > ssh_exchange_identification: read: Conne

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 09:32:46 -0700 spiralofhope wrote: > With an already-compromised system Err, *cough* Alessandro ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:48:31 +0200 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:07:53AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 >> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> like >>> memory sticks

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:28:56 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:07:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180728100753.4ff8dd7c@ayu.localdomain>: > >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 >> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> like >>> memory sticks are know

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 Eric Lee Elliott wrote: [...] > like > memory sticks are know to have internal computers.  How do Devuan users > know the SSD is not calling home How could they possibly do it? Do you think they have a WiFi embedded? Alessandro

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 18 Jul at 2018 05:02:06 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 03:21:14 +0200 > Adam Borowski wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:24:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: >>> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): >>> >>>>

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 03:21:14 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:24:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): >> >>> Then there are local exploits. Ted Ts'o for example keeps fuzzying >>> ext4 for years yet exploitable bugs still pop up f

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 00:33:45 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:21:15PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> My point is that the chances there is a backdoor in the Linux kernel >> are about as high as the chances tomorrow an alien ship abducts the >&g

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 12:26:29 -0500 Эльбрус Кондратьев wrote: > Many people around forgets that the mission of the US National Security > Agency encompasses to 'stay on top' of everything they consider > themselves 'exceptional' and above the rule of law. It's their job to > intervene, hack and

Re: [DNG] Checksum failure on devuan_ascii_2.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso

2018-07-12 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 at 16:36:57 -0700 Bruce Ferrell wrote: > On 07/12/2018 02:49 PM, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting ael (adrian.lawre...@physics.oxon.org): >> >>> You will all love this! I just reported a checksum failure downloading >>> an devuan iso file. Just before closing for the night, I che

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

2018-07-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:32:07 +0300 Lars Noodén ha scritto: > On 07/09/2018 11:23 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote: >> Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]: >> >>> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;-> >>> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:15:20 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: [...] Oh my, who are these guys? Received: from pikantus.localnet (cable-78-34-34-47.netcologne.de [78.34.34.47]) by formal.dehy.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id w69EFPKD030503 https://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 20:47:01 +0200 marc wrote: > Hello Jimmy > > > Today Linux is pretty much owned by the NSA, including it's developers, > > not many educated eyes out there anymore to spot and report malware. > > Things have changed. > > So there is a nice poster around with a grumpy cat

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 at 17:35:01 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/07/2018 05:03 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 >> Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> >>> Good sources tell me we need our own kernel, >> >>

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:23:04 +0200 Harald Arnesen ha scritto: > Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]: > > > 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;-> > > https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/ > > > > Why, oh why repla

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to /dev/null on my > computer. Isn't this a stylish way to put it? :-) Alessandro ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyn

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:15:20 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2018 at 16:10:02, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> Actually the Linux kernel is the most scrutinized and secure piece of >> software that's around. > > Interesting claim. > > Citation/

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 18:06:12 +1000 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote: >> Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read >> through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified... > > T

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 at 14:24:32 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/08/2018 02:25 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Saturday 07 July 2018 at 14:03:33, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> > >

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Good sources tell me we need our own kernel, Why? What's wrong with the available ones? Alessandro ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/l

Re: [DNG] systemd and wlan0 interface problem

2018-07-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 at 02:53:05 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/04/2018 02:28 AM, KatolaZ wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 02:15:46AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> >> [cut] >> I used wicd for several years, and I had always to swear against the gods of three or four religio

Re: [DNG] installer woe

2018-06-26 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:43:04 -0400 Hendrik Boom ha scritto: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 07:25:48AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: >> Le 25/06/2018 à 20:23, Hendrik Boom a écrit : >>>I used dd to copy the installer iso to a USB stck on my old laptop: >>> >>>dd bs=4M if=devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_n

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:11:50 -0700 Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting terryc (ter...@woa.com.au): > >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400 >> Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought >>> up another question in my mind: When will we have

Re: [DNG] Educating people (Was: One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats)

2018-06-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 08:41:18 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > I think you probably missed the point here. believe it or not, there > are genuinely thousands of people who use i686 images because they > happen to have i686 machines. The percentage of those in Devuan is not > that different from the perce

Re: [DNG] Educating people (Was: One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats)

2018-06-20 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 at 14:07:51 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > And this is not at all elitism: it's just the humble admission that > what is "True" for me might not be "THE Truth" for everybody, and that > what is important, crucial, fundamental for me might be just bullshit > for the rest of the world.

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

2018-06-19 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 at 19:38:55 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: [...] > The problem is that people are not told why they should away from i386, and Of course they are, it's all over the Internet. > when faced with a choice they don't understand they often make a bad > decision. Do you mean tha

Re: [DNG] More Sheiße on the way

2018-06-15 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Fri, 15 Jun 2018 20:59:06 +0200 Harald Arnesen ha scritto: > Alessandro Selli [2018-06-15 16:30]: > > > "New Lazy FP State Restore Vulnerability Affects All Intel Core CPUs" > > According to the DragonFlyBSD list, this doesn't affect Linux. I rea

[DNG] More Sheiße on the way

2018-06-15 Thread Alessandro Selli
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-lazy-fp-state-restore-vulnerability-affects-all-intel-core-cpus/ "New Lazy FP State Restore Vulnerability Affects All Intel Core CPUs" Similar but different from Meltdown. https://slashdot.org/submission/8290070/intel-x86-processors-affected-b

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-11 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 14:27:21 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > ahoy! > > On Sat, 09 Jun 2018, Irrwahn wrote: > >> Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 09.06.2018 07:05: >>> Dear Init Freedom Lovers >>> >>> Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! >>> >>> We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

2018-06-09 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 at 07:05:12 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is > finally available. I did notice: $ lsb_release -d Description:Devuan GNU

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 04:54:59 +0100 Mark Rousell wrote: > My guess is that they liked Nadella more than they liked Microsoft and its > history. They just liked the money. And they must not have liked the chances of having such a big corporation as an enemy. _

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 at 12:06:25 +0100 Mark Rousell wrote: > On 05/06/2018 07:19, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On 04/06/2018 at 18:40, Mark Rousell wrote: >>> On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote: >>>> Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 04/06/2018 at 18:40, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote: >> Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source" strategy to kill >> open source. >>   >> # Serge >> > > I can't see that it would be in Microsoft's interest to kill open source. Really? Are yo

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 04/06/2018 at 12:44, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 11:55:57AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 at 11:49:47 +0200 >> KatolaZ wrote: >> >>> The most probable outcome is that a new alternative will possibly >>> emer

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
lassic, centralized repo like GitLab is probably much easier to the vast majority of coders (and users, too). Besides the fact that there is not one currently available TIKO. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A

[DNG] Systemd introduces "Portable Services"

2018-05-31 Thread Alessandro Selli
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=18/05/30/0147216 Mozilla isn't alone in "innovating", sigh! "The past several months Lennart Poettering has been working on a "portable services" concept and that big ticket new feature has now landed in Systemd. Portable services are akin to containers bu

[DNG] Another "innovation" from Mozilla: Firefox no longer allows running arbitrary external app

2018-05-31 Thread Alessandro Selli
Today I was surprised when I found myself no longer able to do something with Firefox that I've taken for grated for a loong time: opening files with an arbitrary external app. As I did not want to open an MP3 file with a GUI app, I right-clicked it to select a custom program to open it, a TUI a

Re: [DNG] LibreOffice removed with autoremove

2018-05-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 21 May 2018 at 23:43:34 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > You can add the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii-backports.list > with the following lines: > > deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-backports main > deb-src http://backports.devuan.org/merged/

Re: [DNG] LibreOffice removed with autoremove

2018-05-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 20 May 2018 at 20:35:17 -0700 Vernon Geiszler wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 5:44 PM, wrote: >> >>> On 21 May 2018, at 10:08, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: [...] >>> I can only see 3.5.3-1 in the archive. Do you have other third-party >>> repos enabled? >>> >>> What’s the output o

Re: [DNG] Switching to OpenRC

2018-05-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 21 May 2018 at 14:01:42 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 05:53:56PM +1000, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Originally, I really had no idea what I was referring to specifically. >> After some more poking around, I think you’re right. I said sysv-rc >> because I no

Re: [DNG] ..waaay OT: Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-20 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 20 May 2018 at 13:06:45 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 20 May 2018 10:45:08 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180520104459.1daedf5d@ayu.localdomain>: > >> On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:49:45 +0200 >> Arnt Karlsen ha wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:57:07 +0200, Alessandro wr

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-20 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:49:45 +0200 Arnt Karlsen ha wrote: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:57:07 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180519165707.504d5c33@ayu.localdomain>: > > > On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 16:42:49 +0200 > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:25:53 +0200, Alessan

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 16:42:49 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:25:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180519042553.7ba51256@ayu.localdomain>: > >>> {headdesk} >>> >>> I really don't think it's that difficult to understand that avoiding >>> outsourcing in no way preclu

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 21:58:17 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> Whom shouldn't do that, the distro developer or the distro's admin? > > The various people in charge of a distribution acting in a suitable >

Re: [DNG] Switching to OpenRC

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
Sorry for breaking the thread, but I no longer have the original post to reply to. Author: Steve Litt Date: 2018-05-15 16:55 +200 To: dng Subject: Re: [DNG] Switching to OpenRC > On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:39:24 +1000 > Tom wrote: > >> Thanks as always for your insightful information Steve. Much >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 15:30:27 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> Adam Borowski's point is that if you have a single person >> administering the distro's infrastructure it does not matter if the >> infrastructu

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 13:18:25 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > > [the likes of GitLab:] > >> This wouldn't have helped. A piece of infrastructure that's run by a >> person who gets run over the bus, or throws a tantrum, is inaccessible >> just the same as

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

2018-05-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 17/05/2018 at 10:05, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 05/17/2018 10:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >>> Typo aside, wouldn't that need to point to the serial console instead >>> and add, speed, parity, and word size? >>> >>> console=ttyS0,19

Re: [DNG] Quagga only use systemd init scripts?

2018-05-15 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 15 May 2018 at 09:38:10 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 03:16:30AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:57:58AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I noticed quagga 1.1.1-3+deb9u2 packages only have syste

[DNG] Quagga only use systemd init scripts?

2018-05-14 Thread Alessandro Selli
Hello, I noticed quagga 1.1.1-3+deb9u2 packages only have systemd config files in /lib/systemd/system, they come with no /etc/init.d sysv scripts. Is there something that can de done to have them in the .deb package files? Bugging the Debian maintainer perhaps? :-) Alessandro ___

Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

2018-05-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 10/05/2018 at 17:56, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 05:49:42PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > [cut] > >> >>     If you have a wifi interface, it is more complicated. Explained below. >> >> 'apt-get install wpa-supplicant wpa-gui', then write the following two lines >> into /etc/wpa_su

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 5 May 2018 at 11:19:19 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > On 05/05/2018 03:29 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: [...] >> On 05/05/2018 at 03:34, taii...@gmx.com wrote: [...] >>> as evidenced by >>> many competing products such as the free replicant and

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
Oblivious of the basics of ML/Usenet reply rules? 0) a reply to a message must be sent as a reply to that message, not pasted into another message's reply; 1) the author of the message one is replying to must be quoted before the quoted message. Yet another example of your childish attitude wh

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 17:29:24 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > Purism is a very dishonest company and their > phone is yet another example of faux-freedom hardware like their > laptops, they do absolutely nothing to address the real issues like the > baseband problem. Not in the least as dish

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-03 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Thu, 03 May 2018 at 16:32:00 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-05-03 14:22, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > Ha!! I saw the title and thought it was going to be a list of some nasty > bugs that would hold up the RC! Whew!! You're always kidding ;-) > golinu

[DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-03 Thread Alessandro Selli
Devices chips were vulnerable. -- Alessandro Selli ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
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Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-03-30 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 at 15:22:21 +0100 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi, > > recently, debian patched the use of two libraries into cryptsetup, > libargon and libpopt. Both are living under /usr. > > That leads to unbootable system when /usr is on s

Re: [DNG] Protect laptop from power supply voltage transients

2018-03-30 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:32:13 +0200 Edward Bartolo ha scritto: > On 29/03/2018, Simon Hobson wrote: > > Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > >> What you wrote reminded me of a dangerous filter that consists of two > >> high voltage series-connected capacitors connected in parallel with > >> the

Re: [DNG] Does devuan install from USB really need a CDROM?

2018-03-20 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 at 09:59:40 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 08:47:25PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> Sounds like I should download ascii for a devuan which can find the >> CDROM on the USB. Just not tonight, as it's a bit late to start that >> now. >> >

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-16 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 16/03/2018 at 00:14, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Nelson H. F. Beebe (be...@math.utah.edu): > >> I must rebut those statements. > > Edge-case obsess, much? ;-> > I'm delighted to have inspired you have disgorged this huge display of > obscure geekery, The ignorant peasant regularly claims th

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 09/03/2018 at 00:05, taii...@gmx.com ha wrote: > On 03/08/2018 11:34 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >>    In fact it's just another take of Taiidan against Purism, it's his job. > You fail to mention that there are many people who are constantly promoting > purism, w

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/2018 at 13:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/03/18 10:05, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> In exchange for money they are now advertising and endorsing a maker of >> fake libre hardware by letting them have a booth at libreplanet an >> endorsing their debian copy "PureOS" >> >> https://

Re: [DNG] DarkPurpy icon set

2018-03-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 23/02/2018 at 05:11, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings dev1rs! > > The ACSII DarkPurpy theme is now complete with the addition of a matching > DarkPurpy icon set. Here's a screenie of how the icons look on the desktop > next to hilighted Pluma and Thunar: > https://transfer.sh/5jNaj/ascii_des

Re: [DNG] ASCII screen reader for both GUI Desktop and text console

2018-02-22 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:19:38 -0500 Steve Litt ha scritto: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:23:23 -0800 > David Hoff Jr wrote: > >> I solved the problem by removing pulse. I now have speech on both the >> desktop and the console. > > "I solved the problem by removing pulse" is one of the top 20

Re: [DNG] Ascii installation fails on i386 with dm-crypt partitions

2018-02-20 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:30:02 + KatolaZ ha scritto: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:26:48PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Hello, >> I wish to know if anyone has had issues installing Devuan Ascii >> Beta 2.0.0 with cryptsetup partitions on 32 bit systems u

Re: [DNG] Ascii installation fails on i386 with dm-crypt partitions

2018-02-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:30:02 + KatolaZ ha scritto: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:26:48PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Hello, >> I wish to know if anyone has had issues installing Devuan Ascii >> Beta 2.0.0 with cryptsetup partitions on 32 bit systems u

[DNG] Ascii installation fails on i386 with dm-crypt partitions

2018-02-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
Hello, I wish to know if anyone has had issues installing Devuan Ascii Beta 2.0.0 with cryptsetup partitions on 32 bit systems using the graphical install. I did today, and when I got to defining the partitioning and filesystem layout, I set: /dev/sda1 -> ext4 -> /boot /dev/sda2 -> sda2_

Re: [DNG] OT: most processors are insecure (was Re: Nvidia Drivers)

2018-02-15 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 20:00:19 +1000 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 16.08.17 11:24, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Intel Active Management Technology (AMT) is hardware and firmware >> technology for remote out-of-band management of personal >> computers > > D

Re: [DNG] devuanfwojg73k6r.onion and pkgmaster.devuan.org are they and have they ever been the same?

2018-02-15 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 14 Feb at 2018 20:21:03 -0500 Fungal-net wrote: > If you are officially representing Devuan and "a long email" described why > Devuan should not be trusted, I'd say it is your problem the inability to > read and understand the technical content. There was actually *no* technical conten

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-11 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 16:48:43 +0100 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > Same problem here. Also there are 2 packages that won't be installed, > even with dist-upgrade. No message why they will not install. > > # apt-get dist-upgrade > The following packages have been kept back: >libpolkit-agent-1-0 poli

Re: [DNG] desktop screen recording with sound?

2018-02-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 at 15:51:11 -0600 dev wrote: > On 02/02/2018 02:53 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > This is not a mish-mash. This is basically a Debian jessie with > > additional wheezy and Ubuntu repos... :) No surprise you have problems > > with dependencies. > > Alrighty then... time to upgrade to

Re: [DNG] Meltdown and linux kernel KPTI patch

2018-01-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
I patch? >> > > I guess the patch will be available soon from Debian. Just keep an eye > on: > > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754 For those who compile their own custom kernels, the patch is in releases 4.9.75 (stable branch) and 4.14.11 (cur

Re: [DNG] ROXterm flickers in ascii

2018-01-03 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 at 23:09:30 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 at 18:03:21 +0100 > Irrwahn wrote: > > [...] > >> According to: >> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=roxterm&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all >> there are roxterm

Re: [DNG] ROXterm flickers in ascii

2018-01-02 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 at 18:03:21 +0100 Irrwahn wrote: [...] > According to: > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=roxterm&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all > there are roxterm packages in Debian Jessie and Sid, but I have no > clue why it was dropped from Stretch. Situations like this to m

Re: [DNG] Happy New Year!

2018-01-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
od laugh I had this year! :-) > Clarke Alessandro -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Happy New Year!

2018-01-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Sun, 31 Dec 2017 22:18:13 +0300 m712 ha scritto: > I wish you all a happy new year! May we see new, better developments in > Devuan and in the Linux ecosystem overall! m712 Hacking New Year to all the devuanistas! :-) -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VO

Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-27 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 at 21:59:27 +0100 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Den 27.12.2017 19:34, skrev taii...@gmx.com: > >> Please remember that all RAID should have ECC RAM and when it comes to >> XFS it is MANDATORY to avoid massive data corruption. > > And a UPS. And an earthquake-proof vault to house

Re: [DNG] Cron / Anacron

2017-12-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 09:25:27 -0300 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > I notice that since I upgraded from Bebian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie my box > runs periodic jobs through anacron instead of cron. > > This sometimes causes heavy jobs to run at inconvenient times. > > Given my box runs 24/7, is

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 12:09:43 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 06/12/2017 à 11:53, Alessandro Selli a écrit : >> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 11:38:25 +0100 >> Didier Kryn wrote: >> >>> Le 05/12/2017 à 23:54, Alessandro Selli a écrit : >>>> On 05/12

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 19:03:51 +0800 Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > On 6 December 2017 at 06:54, Alessandro Selli > wrote: > >> >> > Any good reason to refuse NFS in favor of those? >> >> In short: no. Just be aware that NFS is as secure as the trusted n

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 11:38:25 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 05/12/2017 à 23:54, Alessandro Selli a écrit : > > On 05/12/2017 at 11:46, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Any good reason to refuse NFS in favor of those? > > In short:

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 05/12/2017 at 11:46, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: [...] > Any good reason to refuse NFS in favor of those? In short: no. Just be aware that NFS is as secure as the trusted networks it sits on. Any inside compromised machine can jeopardize the whole distributed filesystem. Alessandro _

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 04/12/2017 at 18:13, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-12-04 17:54, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: > >> "no_root_squash  Turn off root squashing. This option is mainly useful for >> diskless clients." > > NFS was never meant to be a filesystem for diskless workstations, Actually both the main (only?

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

2017-12-02 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 09:47:54 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 03:22:18 +0100 > Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 at 11:42:04 +0100 >> Jaromil wrote: >> > > [...] > >>> For your convenience an ASCII base

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

2017-12-02 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 03:22:18 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 at 11:42:04 +0100 > Jaromil wrote: > [...] >> For your convenience an ASCII based qcow2 image and vagrant box is >> publicly available via the DECODE project (Devuan derivative) >> ht

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

2017-12-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 at 11:42:04 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > dear DNG readers, > > for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in > experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the > candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by > tal

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-14 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 at 06:12:03 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov at 2017 15:35:08 -0800 > Rick Moen wrote: > >> [1] The grammarian in me keeps insisting it shouldn't have been 'UNIX', >> not being an acronym. > > AFAIR Dennis Ritchie l

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-14 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 14 Nov at 2017 15:35:08 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > [1] The grammarian in me keeps insisting it shouldn't have been 'UNIX', > not being an acronym. AFAIR Dennis Ritchie lamented the spread of the capitalized form UNIX, he insisted it was never meant to be that way and that at AT&T/Bell La

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-14 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 at 13:35:13 +0100 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Obviously a systemd | usr_on_/ > system would not fit onto that tiny NAND, while a 'classical orthodox' > system is supposed to work just fine *without* /usr/ at least in a > singleuser mode which may well be all you want for your

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-13 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 at 12:42:50 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 01:14:43AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 19:45:02 +0100 >> Adam Borowski wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:14:33PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wr

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-13 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 19:45:02 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:14:33PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: >> The "too much work" argument is a very embarrassing one - it's the >> genuine duty of distro maintainers to take care of exactly such stuff. >> The argument that some

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 22:04:05 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: >> I don't get why you'd want to keep moving things around on the real >> system if you can isolate it into initrd. > > OK, I believe you, Adam. You don't. This is a brush on poetry! :-) Alessandro

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 17:50:27 +0100 John Hughes wrote: > On 07/11/17 17:41, dev wrote: >> >> On 11/07/2017 10:29 AM, John Hughes wrote: >>> On 07/11/17 17:13, Klaus Ethgen wrote: [ separate / and /usr ] is the best way to keep your /usr flexible to further lvm grows for example.

Re: [DNG] Expansion of the development team

2017-11-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
lly need a group name, in my opinion. That gives me a What'd be wrong with that? :-) -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 at 22:16:53 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 05:29:00PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > >> his very rigid attitude to freedom in software > > I'd prefer if this attitude was more rigid. > > For example, AGPL -- even worse as GPL-3 allows an "upgrade" to this

Re: [DNG] I went back to Openbox

2017-11-03 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, Nov 3 2017 at 15:56:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: [...] > And unlike ctwm, Openbox is already represented by a Devuan package. Actually I can see a ctwm package in Ascii: $ apt-cache policy ctwm ctwm: Installed: (none) Candidate: 3.7-4+b1 Version table: 3.7-4+b1 500 5

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-03 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 20:58:24 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > I know little about this Hurd 'little' thing, but it gives me the > shivers like systemd. Similar to the latter, there is a small core at > the centre with all the other helper executables intercommunicating. > Sounds too complicated to

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