Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-16 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/01/2018 10:20 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 01/11/18 at 13:19, m712 wrote: >> Your best bet is a killfile since he's guaranteed to bomb our inboxes after >> your message. (not asking for a reply) What makes you think that? I am entitled to share my opinions no matter how unpopular

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-07 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 08:55:55 +0100 Andreas Messer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer. For that you > > want Gemini or GPD Pocket. The input device is not fit for any > > real hacking. You at most connect

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-04 Thread Andreas Messer
On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer. For that you want Gemini > or GPD Pocket. The input device is not fit for any real hacking. You at > most connect to it from the outside. Well, according to their information it

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 11:14:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   AFAIK the customizations concern mainly the graphical interface, the > presence of some drivers specific to the new device and a particular > selection of applications Sounds to me that fixing regressions in a base distribution

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-03 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 02/11/18 at 23:18, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2018 at 23:10:48, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of >>> mobile touch devices. >>> >>> Or they provide it. Unless they

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-03 Thread Andreas Messer
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:02:26PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote: > [...] > I hope they ship the devkit soon, I want to install devuan on it too. > Getting a Desktop Environment and Apps to work so it is usable could then > become a bit tricky though. good to know. I'm also looking forward to

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:20:27 +0100, Alessandro wrote in message <180ec613-1a33-1719-65d3-8aa7a2192...@linux.com>: >   Forget it, it was straight on their home page: > > https://system76.com/desktops ...which points to: https://system76.com/pop and https://github.com/pop-os . ..one problem I

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 20:02:26 +, Daniel wrote in message : ... > All the software is publicly available on their gitlab: > https://source.puri.sm/Librem5 ..found this, _are_ they putting systemd on their cell phone OS?: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/librem-buildbot/issues/1 ..it's in all

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 02 November 2018 at 23:10:48, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of > > mobile touch devices. > > > > Or they provide it. Unless they rely on systemd, of course. > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of > mobile touch devices. > > Or they provide it. Unless they rely on systemd, of course. https://pureos.net/ Free/libre software PureOS is a derivative of Debian

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:02:26PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote: > On 31/10/2018 15.00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49: > > > > Now they're working on a Purism phone. They do seem to intend it to > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-01 Thread Daniel Abrecht
On 31/10/2018 15.00, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49: Now they're working on a Purism phone. They do seem to intend it to work with a variety of GNU/Linux systems. They're currently hoping to get some

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-01 Thread m712
Your best bet is a killfile since he's guaranteed to bomb our inboxes after your message. On November 1, 2018 3:20:43 AM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: >On 01/11/18 at 00:56, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of >a >> *smartphone*,

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 01/11/18 at 00:56, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of a > *smartphone*, not laptops!   Sorry, re-reading the thread I figured out the thread started about laptops, and a sub-thread initiated by Hendrik Boom (Message-ID:

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Alessandro Selli
  I was wondering how long before you started again with your misplaced tirades against Puri.sm. Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of a *smartphone*, not laptops! I.e. something that has no Intel chips inside.  Are there OpenPOWER-powered smartphones?   Would you

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread taii...@gmx.com
Everyone here knows purism stuff is blobbed right? Their laptops have coreboot but that isn't open source firmware - the hardware init process on their laptops is entirely blobbed (done via FSP) and they are are being very dishonest for not stating this up front and instead claiming to have "open

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:45 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20181031122744.clkla3eewf2bi...@topoi.pooq.com>: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49: > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > > > > > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>:

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:44:48 +0100, Martin wrote in message <8914632.p2IEeqaq0r@merkaba>: > Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49: > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: > > > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and > > has become contaminated with systemd.

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > > > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: > > > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, > > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: > > > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and > > has become contaminated with systemd.

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and > has become contaminated with systemd. ..they blindly accepted it? > So, naturally, I replaced it with

[DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and has become contaminated with systemd. So, naturally, I replaced it with Devuan. It works very well, except for a problem with the touchpad. I can move the mouse pointer around by stroking the touch pad and I can do the