Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] [PATCH] (security) launcher: don't attempt to execute arbitrary binaries

2020-02-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:22:23PM -0800, tom wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:27:40 +0100 > Evilham via Dng wrote: > > > Hello Enrico, > > > > On dt., gen. 07 2020, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > > > What might supposed to be convenience functionality, poses a > > > real-life > > > security

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] [PATCH] (security) launcher: don't attempt to execute arbitrary binaries

2020-02-13 Thread tom
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:27:40 +0100 Evilham via Dng wrote: > Hello Enrico, > > On dt., gen. 07 2020, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > What might supposed to be convenience functionality, poses a > > real-life > > security threat: > > > > A user can be tricked be tricked to download malicious code,

Re: [DNG] Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?

2020-02-01 Thread Gastón via Dng
On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 05:55:05AM -0600, hal wrote: > Hi, > I'm in the middle of patching a bunch of systems (Ubuntu, Devuan and Debian > flavors) and noticed Devuan's /etc/os-release file doesn't contain any > VERSION tags. > > This file comes in handy for parsing from shell scripts when

Re: [DNG] Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?

2020-02-01 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Sat, 1 Feb 05:55:05 -0600 hal scripsit: > Hi, > I'm in the middle of patching a bunch of systems (Ubuntu, Devuan and > Debian flavors) and noticed Devuan's /etc/os-release file doesn't > contain any VERSION tags. > > This file comes in handy for parsing from shell scripts when

Re: [DNG] Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?

2020-02-01 Thread Svante Signell via Dng
On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 05:55 -0600, hal wrote: > Hi, > I'm in the middle of patching a bunch of systems (Ubuntu, Devuan and > Debian flavors) and noticed Devuan's /etc/os-release file doesn't > contain any VERSION tags. > > This file comes in handy for parsing from shell scripts when >

[DNG] Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?

2020-02-01 Thread hal
Hi, I'm in the middle of patching a bunch of systems (Ubuntu, Devuan and Debian flavors) and noticed Devuan's /etc/os-release file doesn't contain any VERSION tags. This file comes in handy for parsing from shell scripts when lsb_release isn't installed or /etc/issue has been customized.

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] [PATCH] (security) launcher: don't attempt to execute arbitrary binaries

2020-01-13 Thread Evilham via Dng
Hello Enrico, On dt., gen. 07 2020, Enrico Weigelt wrote: What might supposed to be convenience functionality, poses a real-life security threat: A user can be tricked be tricked to download malicious code, unpack it with +x permissions (eg. via tar) and execute it by just clicking on the

[DNG] devuan ascii on hardkernel's odroid xu4 (solved: udev / interfaces issue with usb connected NICs)

2020-01-06 Thread Florian Zieboll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 tl;dr: finally I went the easy and straight forward way from armbian, including their kernel (sources) repo, as done similarly several times before with some r'pis and raspbian: - copy Armbian_19.11.3_Odroidxu4_stretch_legacy_4.14.150.img

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-29 Thread Joril via Dng
On 29/11/19 12:29, Denis Roio wrote: Sadly it's not just init scripts: for example how would a case like http://bugs.devuan.org/db/27/276.html be handled? I guess by hand. Do you mean the user's hand, or the distro maintainer's? :D do you know about other show-stoppers for the systemd

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-29 Thread Denis Roio
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Joril via Dng wrote: > On 26/11/19 22:13, viverna wrote: > > > > I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init > > > > run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. > > > > > > This is a great idea. I've been in favor of

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-27 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Joril via Dng il 27-11-19 09:01:37 ha scritto: On 26/11/19 22:13, viverna wrote: I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. This is a great idea. I've been in favor of something

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-27 Thread Joril via Dng
On 26/11/19 22:13, viverna wrote: I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. This is a great idea. I've been in favor of something similar since 2015. It frees "upstreams" from the responsibility of

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-26 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Steve Litt il 25-11-19 02:48:08 ha scritto: I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. This is a great idea. I've been in favor of something similar since 2015. It frees "upstreams"

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Rick, On 26/11/19 3:22 pm, Rick Moen wrote: > and just let the two or three users of that mode curse me > as long as they feel is therapeutic. Love it! Great way to deal with it. On 26/11/19 8:33 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:22:04 -0800, Rick wrote in message <20191126042203.gf6...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > I know digest mode is handy, but please be careful in your handling > > thereof. I have no idea who dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org is, but *I* >

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-25 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I know digest mode is handy, but please be careful in your handling > thereof. I have no idea who dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org is, but *I* > wrote the preceding, and my email is sl...@troubleshooters.com. Also, > please take the extra second to

[DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian: NOT Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27

2019-11-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:41:08 + Alexander Brüning via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 12:00 +0100, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > I think we could get 90% of the way to a set of legitimate daemon I know digest mode is handy, but please be careful in your handling thereof. I have

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 25 de November de 2019 01:23:58 Steve Litt escribió: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100 > > Denis Roio wrote: > > At last, please, do not consider Devuan as an alternative solution > > which will survive any outcome of this vote. > > > > Because I'm sure Devuan will not survive

[DNG] [devuan] Devuan 2.1 point release announcement

2019-11-25 Thread Subscribe to receive announcements about Devuan
Dear Init Freedom Lovers Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release installer isos, desktop-live, and minimal-live isos are now available. No ARM or virtual images are included in this release. ## What's new in this point release: Installation: - The

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 19:34:19 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2019-11-24 19:23, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100 > > Denis Roio wrote: > > > >> At last, please, do not consider Devuan as an alternative solution > >> which will survive any outcome of this vote. > >>

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:31:25 +0100 viverna wrote: > No, we will not allow it! > I propose this: a script called INJ - Init Freedom inJector > > I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init > run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. This is

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-24 Thread golinux
On 2019-11-24 19:23, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100 Denis Roio wrote: At last, please, do not consider Devuan as an alternative solution which will survive any outcome of this vote. Because I'm sure Devuan will not survive without Debian's help. Some time in 2015, I

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100 Denis Roio wrote: > At last, please, do not consider Devuan as an alternative solution > which will survive any outcome of this vote. > > Because I'm sure Devuan will not survive without Debian's help. Some time in 2015, I remember hearing the VUAs saying

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-24 Thread golinux
On 2019-11-24 06:16, Denis Roio wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: I have tried ASCII 2.0 -- but it looks like there is a new 2.1 version just about to be announced? yes, there is a 2.1 ready and most of it is thanks to the passionate work of volunteers, among the

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-24 Thread Denis Roio
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > I have tried ASCII 2.0 -- but it looks like there is a new 2.1 > version just about to be announced? yes, there is a 2.1 ready and most of it is thanks to the passionate work of volunteers, among the few fsmithred, rrq, golinux, centuriondan

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 24/11/19 1:21 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..apologies, I just hit the Reply-button and saw you on the > Cc:-line, and was led to believe that was your intention. > Responding to this message, I found I had to hit the > ReplyAll-button to get

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 18:48:52 +1100, Andrew wrote in message <5cc11ae1-94d0-5327-81b7-6a6f98840...@affinityvision.com.au>: > Hi, > > On 23/11/19 4:38 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message > > : > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 23/11/19 4:38 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message > : > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Jo. >> >> On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: >>> In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Jo. > > On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > > In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? > > I think not. > > MX is not exactly against

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
Is there any way to give our support to this proposal? Only Debian-accepted developers (cf. https://www.debian.org/devel/join/), subsequently called "Debian Developer", or "DD", have a right to vote (cf. https://www.debian.org/vote/howto_follow). I would also be eager to help Debian (&

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Denis Roio il 22-11-19 10:55:46 ha scritto: Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian. If Debian drops the support for any other init system but systemd, I believe we won't be able to keep up with the legwork needed to support all other init systems. I say this because we

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jo. On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? I think not. MX is not exactly against systemd, they use it still, but not as the init system. And MX is reliant upon Debian

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > Now please let this success be an account of how important is Init > Freedom for the large amount of Debian users out there. > > Today I write you because there is a reason to be worried that

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:29:36 +0100, Irrwahn wrote in message <00acc993-3243-4ccc-aa86-0f5f93aaf...@freenet.de>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote on 22.11.19 13:36: > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > [...] > >> And today once

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread John Crisp via Dng
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:36:48 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > > > > > And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian > > Jackson > > ..a direct link to Ian's vote

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Irrwahn
Arnt Karlsen wrote on 22.11.19 13:36: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: [...] >> And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian >> Jackson > > ..a direct link to Ian's vote proposition nr.4 and a direct link

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? Best Regards -- Ismael - Original Message - From: "Denis Roio" To: "DNG" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:55 AM Subject: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist withou

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Is there any way to give our support to this proposal? Best Regards -- Ismael - Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, D

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > dear readers, > > I write this email to comment on the current Init System GR vote in > Debian, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ > > I'll be brief and express my personal

[DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Denis Roio
dear readers, I write this email to comment on the current Init System GR vote in Debian, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ I'll be brief and express my personal opinion on the matter. Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian. When me and Franco Lanza started this

Re: [DNG] Devuan sparc port

2019-10-29 Thread s
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 09:02:13AM -0700, Fred wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Will there ever be a sparc64 port of Devuan? > > Very very likely no. The focus of this distribution is fixing systemd > caused regression, not porting. And reviving the arch would require a lot > of effort: > Oracle

Re: [DNG] Devuan sparc port

2019-10-29 Thread Fred
On 10/28/19 8:12 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 09:02:13AM -0700, Fred wrote: Hello, Will there ever be a sparc64 port of Devuan? Very very likely no. The focus of this distribution is fixing systemd caused regression, not porting. And reviving the arch would require a lot

Re: [DNG] Devuan sparc port

2019-10-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 09:02:13AM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > Will there ever be a sparc64 port of Devuan? Very very likely no. The focus of this distribution is fixing systemd caused regression, not porting. And reviving the arch would require a lot of effort: Sparc is dead. Oracle

[DNG] Devuan sparc port

2019-10-28 Thread Fred
Hello, Will there ever be a sparc64 port of Devuan? Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 14:29:47 +0100, Aitor wrote in message : > Hi Steve, > > On 27/10/19 5:46, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:41:36 -0400 > > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> I use a Refracta live-cd or usb as a rescue system. It has things > >> like ddrescue, smartmontools,

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-27 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
Hello Steve, Has any of you been using Devuan as a rescue CD? If so, how has it been working out for you, and do you have any suggestions to make the Devuan rescue experience easy and productive? I have replaced my old GParted Live DVD with Devuan live desktop to partition/repair/copy (dd)

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-27 Thread Aitor
Hi Steve, On 27/10/19 5:46, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:41:36 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: I use a Refracta live-cd or usb as a rescue system. It has things like ddrescue, smartmontools, lm-sensors, testdisk/photorec and some other relevant software installed. Sounds good. I

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-27 Thread Larry De Coste via Dng
That was supposed to say "systemd". No thanks to spell correction. -- Lawrence De Coste Cell/Txt/Signal: +1 (401)275-3712 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-27 Thread Larry De Coste via Dng
-- Lawrence De Coste Cell/Txt/Signal: +1 (401)275-3712 -Original Message- From: Steve Litt To: dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD? On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:41:36 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 10/26/19 5:06 PM, St

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:41:36 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 10/26/19 5:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Has any of you been using Devuan as a rescue CD? If so, how has it > > been working out for you, and do you have any suggestions to make > > the Devuan rescue experience easy

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-26 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 10/26/19 5:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Has any of you been using Devuan as a rescue CD? If so, how has it been working out for you, and do you have any suggestions to make the Devuan rescue experience easy and productive? System Rescue CD recently switched from Gentoo to Arch, thus

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-26 Thread tom
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:06:43 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has any of you been using Devuan as a rescue CD? If so, how has it > been working out for you, and do you have any suggestions to make the > Devuan rescue experience easy and productive? > > System Rescue CD recently switched

[DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Has any of you been using Devuan as a rescue CD? If so, how has it been working out for you, and do you have any suggestions to make the Devuan rescue experience easy and productive? System Rescue CD recently switched from Gentoo to Arch, thus acquiring systemd. I wouldn't have a big

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-26 Thread s
Hello, On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:03:11 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > On 10/26/19 9:54 AM, s@po wrote: > > >>> Where does 'apt-cache policy' get the version number? Oh, maybe it reads > >>> it from the repo. I see that we have: > > >> It could be.. > >> Another place, I searched for and makes sense to

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-26 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 10/26/19 9:54 AM, s@po wrote: Where does 'apt-cache policy' get the version number? Oh, maybe it reads it from the repo. I see that we have: It could be.. Another place, I searched for and makes sense to me: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/Release So I think it comes

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-26 Thread s
Hello, On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 14:32:55 +0100 s@po wrote: > Hello fsmithred, > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:51:21 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > On 10/26/19 1:49 AM, Pontus Goffe via Dng wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 2019-10-26 02:27, s@po wrote: > > >> You see here the '2.0' String, and

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-26 Thread s
Hello fsmithred, On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:51:21 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 10/26/19 1:49 AM, Pontus Goffe via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2019-10-26 02:27, s@po wrote: > >> You see here the '2.0' String, and it comes from the funtion > >> guess_release_from_apt().. like you can see

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-26 Thread s
Hi Pontus Goffe, > Hi, > > On 2019-10-26 02:27, s@po wrote: > > You see here the '2.0' String, and it comes from the funtion > > guess_release_from_apt().. like you can see above.. > > The guess_release_from_apt() function: > > 228 def guess_release_from_apt(origin='Devuan',

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-26 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 10/26/19 1:49 AM, Pontus Goffe via Dng wrote: Hi, On 2019-10-26 02:27, s@po wrote: You see here the '2.0' String, and it comes from the funtion guess_release_from_apt().. like you can see above.. The guess_release_from_apt() function: 228 def guess_release_from_apt(origin='Devuan',

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread Pontus Goffe via Dng
Hi, On 2019-10-26 02:27, s@po wrote: You see here the '2.0' String, and it comes from the funtion guess_release_from_apt().. like you can see above.. The guess_release_from_apt() function: 228 def guess_release_from_apt(origin='Devuan', component='main', 229

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread s
Hello fsmithred, > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 18:06:06 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > > I don't know exactly where the 2.0 is coming from. It's not in > > /etc/os-release, /etc/devuan_version or /etc/issue, and there is no > > /etc/lsb-release file. > > > > man lsb_release says > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread s
Hello fsmithred, On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 18:06:06 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > I don't know exactly where the 2.0 is coming from. It's not in > /etc/os-release, /etc/devuan_version or /etc/issue, and there is no > /etc/lsb-release file. > > man lsb_release says >"Detection of systems

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 10/25/19 9:48 AM, Joril via Dng wrote: On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available After installation lsb_release still reports 2.0, should I file a bug report? #

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread Joril via Dng
On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available After installation lsb_release still reports 2.0, should I file a bug report? # uname -r 4.9.0-11-amd64 # lsb_release -a

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread Joril via Dng
On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for download here: http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/ Other images will be uploaded as they are ready. For the record

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-25 Thread Joril via Dng
On 22/10/19 16:11, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2019-10-22 01:46, Joril via Dng wrote: On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for download here:

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-22 Thread golinux
On 2019-10-22 01:46, Joril via Dng wrote: On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for download here: http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/ Other images will be

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-22 Thread hal
On October 21, 2019 11:00:01 PM CDT, ". fsmithred via Dng" wrote: :: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, :: desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for :: download here: :: http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/ :: Other images will be uploaded as

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-22 Thread terryc
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:46:47 +0200 Joril via Dng wrote: > On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, > > desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for > > download here: > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-22 Thread Joril via Dng
On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for download here: http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/ Other images will be uploaded as they are ready. Great news! :)

[DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-21 Thread . fsmithred via Dng
The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for download here: http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/ Other images will be uploaded as they are ready. - The option to choose openrc is more prominent and no longer

Re: [DNG] Devuan Raspberry pi 4

2019-10-11 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 11 Oct 08:56:07 -0400 Hendrik Boom scripsit: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:14:35AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2019 Wed, 09 Oct 14:37:36 -0600 > > Leonel Nunez scripsit: > > > Hello: > > > > > > I've just got some raspberry pi4 but devuan for raspberry

Re: [DNG] Devuan Raspberry pi 4

2019-10-11 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 10/9/19 11:37 PM, Leonel Nunez wrote: > > > Are plans to make a Raspberry Pi 4 image ?? till there is one (along beowulf release perhaps?), you can make your own customisable image for raspi4 following instructions here : https://git.devuan.org/sdk/arm-sdk not sure it works for raspi4, only

Re: [DNG] Devuan Raspberry pi 4

2019-10-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:14:35AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Wed, 09 Oct 14:37:36 -0600 > Leonel Nunez scripsit: > > Hello: > > > > I've just got some raspberry pi4 but devuan for raspberry pi 3 does not > > boot. > > YOu'll need to update the firmware in /boot

Re: [DNG] Devuan Raspberry pi 4

2019-10-11 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Wed, 09 Oct 14:37:36 -0600 Leonel Nunez scripsit: > Hello: > > I've just got some raspberry pi4 but devuan for raspberry pi 3 does not > boot. YOu'll need to update the firmware in /boot manually. > > Is there any documentation to make the devuan raspberry pi 3 image boot >

[DNG] Devuan Raspberry pi 4

2019-10-10 Thread Leonel Nunez
Hello: I've just got some raspberry pi4 but devuan for raspberry pi 3 does not boot. Is there any documentation to make the devuan raspberry pi 3 image boot on the 4 ?? Can't find any doc ? Are plans to make a Raspberry Pi 4 image ?? Thank You --- Leonel Núñez http://enelserver.com

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-13 Thread José Marinho via Dng
: Mark Hindley > Sent: Tue Sep 10 22:28:06 CEST 2019 > To: José Marinho > Cc: devuan developers internal list , Dng > > Subject: Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback > needed > > > José, > > Hello. Thanks for this. > > O

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-13 Thread José Marinho via Dng
> Cc: devuan developers internal list , Dng > > Subject: Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback > needed > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:41:29AM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > > For the first point, you are right, the final hyphen makes a big diffe

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-13 Thread José Marinho via Dng
d-1-0 (= 0.105-25+devuan4) >Depends: libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (= 0.105-25+devuan4) > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > I hope this will help > > Jose > > > ------------ > > From: Mark Hindley &

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-13 Thread José Marinho via Dng
Depends: libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (= 0.105-25+devuan4) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I hope this will help Jose > > From: Mark Hindley > Sent: Tue Sep 10 13:59:58 CEST 2019 > To: devuan developers internal li

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 06:25:20PM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > Finally, I managed to get to Beowulf from Buster by doing what is indicated > in the text file I send as an attachment. > > Hope it would be helpful. Yes, thanks. On a quick look all of your difficulties look related to tasksel. I

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:41:29AM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > For the first point, you are right, the final hyphen makes a big difference > and now I am free of the dbus delay and can reach a GUI through Lightdm. Great! > But the other issue persists: > root@dserver:~# apt install --purge

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Hindley
José, Hello. Thanks for this. On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 09:40:42PM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > Hi all, > > >From a brand new debian server installation on Virtualbox I install desktop > >stuff by installing task-xfce-destop metapackage and try your instructions. I > >don't know if I miss or

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:09:12AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Would a transitional package that makes the edit to /var/lib/dpkg/status be > a sane solution? Yes I wondered about that. What would work is a libpam-systemd.deb with Debian #935304 fixed. But it would be a pain to maintain as

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/10/19 7:59 AM, Mark Hindley wrote: I have been further testing ways of migrating buster to beowulf. With a install of xfce4 and lightdm, the cleanest way I can come up with is: # Migrate from Debian buster to Devuan beowulf # Install devuan-keyring wget

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Hindley
I have been further testing ways of migrating buster to beowulf. With a install of xfce4 and lightdm, the cleanest way I can come up with is: # Migrate from Debian buster to Devuan beowulf # Install devuan-keyring wget

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-07 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/7/19 2:26 AM, Mark Hindley wrote: libpam-systemd depends systemd-sysv. libpam-systemd also depends systemd. Devuan's libpam-elogind provides libpam-systemd but conflicts with systemd which must be removed first. However, to get systemd uninstalled we first have to replace systemd-sysv with

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-07 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 11:04:00AM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 07/09/19 07:30, Mark Hindley wrote: > But it should use libpam-elogind. Perhaps we need to ban libpam-systemd > to force the use of libpam-elogind instead. The only thing is we need > to check if their is a dep version check on

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. > > The basic process is: > > 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove libnss-systemd >and reboot. > 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). > 3) change apt sources from buster to

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 07/09/19 07:30, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> Dear Dev1ers, >> >> Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity >> - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! > > I have just

Re: [DNG] Devuan conference videos hosting

2019-07-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > all said, I am also not a fan of yt tech and invasiveness, but I guess > it should also be mentioned that the audience we can get on that > platform is by far superior than any other platform - and the main > point of the conference recordings is really that

Re: [DNG] Devuan conference videos hosting

2019-07-15 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 7/14/19 3:09 PM, B. R. via Dng wrote: > > I cannot help but notice the videos from the first Devuan conference > > (https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/) are hosted on > > YouTube. My FOSS (with "free" as in "non-captive") nerve is

Re: [DNG] Devuan conference videos hosting

2019-07-15 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 7/15/19 6:45 AM, Tom wrote: > It's written entirely in server-side javascript > (NodeJS) and If your a sysadmin you probably have dealt with this > before and know the complete disaster it is. i agree with that, not a fan of js. but yt is also full of javascript, (apart from it being

Re: [DNG] Devuan conference videos hosting

2019-07-14 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 7/14/19 3:09 PM, B. R. via Dng wrote: > I cannot help but notice the videos from the first Devuan conference > (https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/) are hosted on > YouTube. My FOSS (with "free" as in "non-captive") nerve is itching. another suggestion, would be using peertube

[DNG] Devuan conference videos hosting

2019-07-14 Thread B. R. via Dng
I have been around for a little while and have been using Devuan for a couple of years now. IIRC, this is my first message ever on this list. Thus, proper introduction: Hi, everyone! My name is . If I were not broke, I trust I shall have come to that initial landmark. It felt very much like a

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > Hi Steve, list, All: OH HAI! > On more than one occasion I've found that some acronym "flashers" are > just wildly flapping arms and waving hands in thin air trying to make an > impresssion rather than "knowledgeable experts". Anyone

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, list, Steve Litt writes: > On Thu, 23 May 2019 12:15:06 -0700 > Rick Moen wrote: > >> Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org): >> >> > I could be wrong, but based on the context of his question: >> > >> > AMI = Amazon Machine Image >> >> I know Josef, and, yes, that's exactly

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > I have no problem with that. > > The unfortunate side-effect is that anyone receiving this list email > and using a simple "reply" ends up not replying to the list, which I > consider to be very bad manners. {groan} Not correct. And

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > On the other hand, before we make little in-groups based on knowledge > of ambiguous acronyms, consider what I do. Without special objection, you should tell Josef that, not me. I'm Mr. Mildly Annoying and Arguably Excessive Footnote Guy.

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 23 May 2019 12:15:06 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org): > > > I could be wrong, but based on the context of his question: > > > > AMI = Amazon Machine Image > > I know Josef, and, yes, that's exactly what he meant. Amazon EC2 and > all that. >

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